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Nebraska abolishes the Death Penalty
Posted: May 27, 2015
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Score 1 for the criminals and 0 for unborn babies. - Civilized society? nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
They just had a female cop killed last week. I predict crime to - rise. nomsg
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Oh, no, not a female cop--well I'm sure the - criminals have been holding back
[ In Reply To ..]Civilization is at its end, a FEMALE cop has been killed.
What does the death penalty have to do with - babies?
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Abortion. - NM
[ In Reply To ..]NM
I've got some really RADICAL ideas about abortion. - Liberal AGAINST abortion
[ In Reply To ..]I don't like abortion so I've never had one and never will, but I don't remotely expect everyone to agree with me nor will I try to shove my religious or political beliefs down everyone else's throat.
Don't like abortion? Don't have one.
Liberals celebrate the end of capital punishment and - also celebrate the
[ In Reply To ..]murder of unborn babies. I really don’t understand liberal logic.
Here, let me help you. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Thou shalt not kill.
Liberals don't "celebrate" abortion; that is a fabrication. There are a lot of liberals, like myself, that are actually against abortion for religious and other reasons.
But liberals are also the kind of people that don't try to legislate our religious beliefs onto other people that may not necessarily agree with us. Someone else choosing abortion is making a choice that I would NEVER make, but I respect their right to make choices that may disagree with my religious beliefs because I believe in the separation of my religious beliefs from my country's very diverse population with many different religious beliefs.
When the war mongering conservatives agree to outlaw death through nation building and outlaw sanctioned death by the state or the federal government, then I will believe they actually do value life.
I'm Jewish. We were taught though shalt not MURDER. - Capital punish is in the Bible, along
[ In Reply To ..]with flogging and paying financial restitution.
Cardinal Burke preached yesterday against a - "dictatorship of relativism"
[ In Reply To ..]branding Christians“fundamentalists and extremists.”
He spoke of how fundamental truths like the importance of human life have been ignored, defied, and violated.
Burke for pope! - NM
[ In Reply To ..]NM
You certainly can kill when it's self protection. - NM
[ In Reply To ..]NM
Agreed. That would be me valuing my life. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]But I disagree that nation building is self protection--for instance, going into Iraq in order to stop a "mushroom cloud" or all the talk about going into Iran. War is big business and makes people lots of money. War in the Middle East is about war profiteering and control of oil supplies and not really "the bomb."
If we wanted to attack a country over nuclear weapons versus oil, we got North Korea sitting there that is much more a threat..... so never let the fabricated pro-war rhetoric about WMDs fool you.
A sign of the times...when people think it's best to do what is - right in his or her eyes
[ In Reply To ..]leaving God’s opinion out of the picture because they think they have a better, more politically correct way.
It's not really about political correctness or your God. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Every man, conducting himself as a good citizen, and being accountable to God alone for his religious opinions, ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience.
-- George Washington
And where does it say "Thou shalt demand the govt to stay out of your private lives unless it - suits your personal agenda?" JS
[ In Reply To ..]Our issues of faith as Christians, such as gay marriage or abortion, have no business being mandated by the government either way
The Democrats not only support abortion but feel the fed. govt - should pay for it through Planned
[ In Reply To ..]Parenthood, as well as, contraception for teens. I don’t think I have seen a more radicalized Democratic party in my 56 years!
You have not seen a more organized, - and cohesive Democratic Party
[ In Reply To ..]You have not seen a Democratic Party that is willing to put their message on the front page and stand behind it.
In part, you have to thank the extremist Christian right Republican party to thank for that.
The praise should go to someone whose name rhymes with - Guccifer. NM
[ In Reply To ..]NM
Ah, the not Christian enough card - thanks for playing
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Some people believe in God only when it's convenient. - I've heard some people say
[ In Reply To ..]t is a God given right for all to have healthcare, food, shelter, education, etc., but then nothing about personal responsibility or behavior.
That's the way of "agendites." You can recognize their patterns. They shout the loudest and push their agendas the hardest.
You mean like Josh Duggar? - Julia Sugarbaker (nm)
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Perhaps actually knowing libs or left-leaning libertarians (like me) would help vs. letting Fox News - dictate who we are~Julia Sugarbaker
[ In Reply To ..]The idea that most lib/left leaning women are "for abortion" is a myth - but there are certain situations we haven't been in ourselves that we could understand why it might become necessary for others - rape, incest, certain harm would come to mother or child or both - mostly for the child who had no choice, if it would have constant struggle to live, because I believe in the right not to suffer (see below).
Like I was saying under another thread, I find that many conservatives (that I HAVE known personally) find it difficult to empathize with others if they haven't been in that situation. Not all, but many.
However, abortion - like gay marriage - is where you'll see my libertarian streak come out:)
I actually consider myself a left-leaning libertarian - which means I do not believe either abortion or gay marriage should be addressed by our government system by law either way. Those are private choices based on religious beliefs.
As for the death penalty, I am not sold either way, for or against the death penalty, I'm just really glad I'm not the one making that decision. I think what if there was just one person where we got it wrong and they really weren't guilty? In fact, there have been :(
I don't trust our current justice system enough to get it right I guess. Our justice system needs work, it's often the best justice money can buy, these days, and typically those in death penalty trials don't have money (which is a good thing, in a way, so they can't cheat, but a bad thing if they're really not guilty)
But I am for euthanization in situations for people with ALS, etc., and are just suffering horribly. I believe in the right not to suffer, we're kinder to our pets in this way.
It's cruel not to, but it depends on the situation. This is where I don't get many on the right, who say never pull the plug.(Again, not all, but most). Any righties that believe that care to explain?
I'm creating a new term, playing the Fox News card. - It seems to be a way of
[ In Reply To ..]"discrediting" someone's post as radical and not worth listening to.
We read your blanket-generalized jab directed at us. But you can't read ours because we took a - jab at Fox News? "my preccioouus" lol JS
[ In Reply To ..]Suit yourself, your missed opportunity to surprise yourself at finding common ground. Why even bother responding then?
However, you really can't blanket-generalize libs anymore if you refuse to even read what they really have to say because they hurt your favorite news program. Whatever you need to not read so you can keep believing nonsense, I guess.
Your choice to continue to live in a bubble and only surround yourselves with that support your way of thinking as superior and continue objectifying other people rather than get to know them. That doesn't keep us polarized as a nation or anything.
As for the Fox News thing, don't blanket us and we won't blanket you, alrighty?
PS - The "my precious" reference in the author field was a Lord of the Rings/Gollum reference. Seriously, it's not that precious. It's not a part of you. Let it go a little
I don't have cable TV and I don't watch Fox News. - What is this obsession with
[ In Reply To ..]Fox?
No wonder you're naive to the ways of our people then. All the more reason to read than not - just bc I jabbed Fox in my title, as u said;)
[ In Reply To ..]Let's get back to the actual issues then. Otherwise, I have no further response.
Because I stop responding for two reasons: When I believe people are just trying to annoy or when I began to suspect people are lying about their identity again.
Breitbart perhaps? - NewsMax (rehashed Breitbart)
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I have NEVER heard anyone celebrate - an abortion
[ In Reply To ..]There has been some amusement at escorting people across the "bible lines" to obtain the medical care they have a legal right to obtain. Around here, of late, it has been Pap smears, well women exams, birth control....but we did just get a new doctor and will be performing abortions soon. Then people will not have to drive 500 miles to obtain medical procedures they have a legal right to also.
It is between them and their God as to whether it is a morally correct decision. You cannot legislate morality.
As for me, I would help anyone, just as vigorously, perhaps more vigorously, find their way emotionally, financially and logistically to an adoption situation than an abortion, but these are not puppies we're talking about here. There is a lifetime commitment. Anti-choice people don't seem to have much aftercare concern or answer for that end of things.
It's the voting system there, non-partisan elections - for the unicameral state
[ In Reply To ..]legislature. While Republicans have had the majority for decades (I can’t tell you the last time they didn’t) RINOs thrive in an environment where there are no regular party primaries.
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