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Reminder: The healthcare only passed because they changed the terminology of it from a penalty to a

Posted: Dec 8, 2012

A Reminder of Obama and His Promises From His Own Campaign

Reminder: The healthcare only passed because they changed the terminology of it from a penalty to a tax.

Reminder: This video combines his campaigns from 2006(?) to the present.

A lot of it everyone has seen over the years, but this has condensed all of it. Those of you who don’t want to believe he lied, don’t bother watching this video…but have a nice day anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEJdhwQJrjI&list=UUE9Ebp5nm1F7s7iHflJ9A7Q&index=1

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No more free healthcare rides. Of course, that makes some - unhappy, but that's the way it is.

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You want healthcare, you pay for it. (And, yes, all the freeloaders and complainers do want healthcare when they hurt.) No more spending insurance dollars on expensive playthings and vacations and then heading over to the ER for some tax-payer subsidized care when needed.

Oh boy, you sure have it all backwards. My aunt - is an ER nurse, and she states the overwhelming

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"freeloaders" are the Medicaid patients who come to the ER with every little thing. They get a pimple, the sniffles, etc, and they run to the ER. Now, who pays for that, WE do... the taxpayers. With Obamacare many millions will now be on Medicaid, which is close to bankrupting several states as it is. Many states are refusing to expand Medicaid, so what happens to these people who will now qualify for it, but the state won't provide it? It will be covered nationally, so it can bankrupt the entire nation. You thought there were freeloaders before? You ain't seen nothin' yet. You have no idea what is about to happen, do you?

Do ya think? - sm

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That maybe they cannot get into PCP because they don't have one? Maybe they do not have transportation, etc., to go there Monday through Friday because of hours/wages? By the way, how does nurse know for sure they are MA. Do they have it tattooed on forehead?

With Obamacare many millions will now...sm - VTMT

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have insurance. It is the uninsured working poor that go to the ER and it is not usually for the "sniffles". The "freeloaders" are the people who can afford insurance but don't choose to have it and then are overwhelmed when they have a medical catastrophe. BTW, I am a former ER nurse.

boy, what a stereotypical response... - not all that go to the

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ER are the uninsured working poor or "freeloaders" who can afford insurance and choose not to have it. What a single-sighted theory with no facts to back it up. Not everybody who does not have insurance is a "freeloader" who you seem to think can afford it and chooses not to. You have no idea what other people's financial situations are and/or why they do not have insurance and/or why they go to the ER rather than a PCP. Stop blaming the people and put the blame where it belongs.

OhBoy, the "freeloaders" discussed on this thread under Obamacare are those who can - afford insurance but don't buy any,

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then freeload off society when they need healthcare. BTW, although many of these do pay the resultant bills, many others cannot or will not pay any or all. Guess who's been carrying these freeloaders all this time?

Not just ER patients, either. YOUR homeowners and auto insurance premiums are both higher than they ought to be because these insurances have been unofficially providing medical coverage via the liability provisions to the uninsured AND underinsured. For instance, a young friend of our son's with no insurance through his work only got his bad knee repaired after an extremely minor auto accident made the driver's insurance (another friend's dad's) available to him. Technically speaking, the little accident did jar the knee and cause further pain and theoretically possibly further injury, and he got care he really needed.

I actually call this nice kid a freeloader because the jobs market was good in those days and he could have passed up the job he chose in favor of one that provided insurance. Today, courtesy of Obamacare, he'd still be covered by his parents' policy, and tomorrow, courtesy of Obamacare, he'll be covered either through work or direct purchase of a government-sponsored plan. OR, of course, by a surcharge on his federal tax bill if he doesn't provide his own coverage so he'll be paying his own way. UNLESS, of course, his income is too low for him to afford it, in which case we'll all come together doing our part to care for the poor and heal the sick.

I just don't understand why - you all think this healthcare

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is going to be the be all, end all to all of life's problems. It may have some good points to it, which I truly have yet to hear or read of, but all in all, it has to be paid for, as well, and maintained financially from somewhere. It will not be "free healthcare" for anyone, and not for the working poor, either. Our taxes will still be paying for it from implementation to maintainance, thus we will all be paying for everyone else's healthcare whether they have insurance or not. If the working poor still cannot afford healthcare insurance, they will be "fined" by an added "tax" on their income tax returns. If these people are so poor already that they cannot afford their insurance, what good is another tax penalty going to do...they just won't pay it and the rest of us again will be left holding the bag. This gigantour pushed-through "insurance" is going to cost a fortune just to get up and running. and we are all going to pay for that, so your healthcare, mine, and joe blow's down the street, is all going to have to be paid for by us anyway. It will just seem like it is govt provided, but only because we are paying the taxes to support it. hence, we are still paying for it...and now not just your own insurance, but everyone else's too. I just cannot fathom how it is going to be such a "wonderful thing." It's just a wolf in sheep's clothing.

"Be all, end all to all of life's problems"? Exaggerate much? - It's a start, that's all. nm

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NOBODY thinks it'll be the end-all for all life's problems. That's a phony - supposition. Please consider this reality, though:

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Government purchases health care MUCH more cheaply than private business and private patients do. The higher the proportion of private payment, the higher proportion of a nation's wealth goes to healthcare, a form of maintenance, not building of wealth. This is one of the reasons our country has been on the skids comparatively--we spend money on healthcare that could be spent on new highways or education, or vacations.

As for individuals, is a family better off economically paying $600 a month in taxes for healthcare or $1100 a month through an employer?

Economists have long said that we pay far too much of our national wealth for healthcare, and now costs have risen so high that they are devastating the future of many working families, who cannot get ahead, cannot save enough for retirement, cannot move from their "starter" home to the nicer one they planned on, cannot send their child to college, etc.

Here in MT, if a person's full-time income has declined to $20K a year and that person is paying $11K of that to provide health insurance for her family because her husband's work doesn't provide it... It didn't use to be that way.

YOU have to realize nothing's free or perfect. By the standards you - demand, all of humanity's greatest

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achievements are total failures.

Wow! You made a lot of assumptions about my...sm - VTMT

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post. Maybe I should have been clearer. When I said the working poor go to the ER I should have said they use the ER for nonemergency care because they do not have a PCP. I also made no judgement as to who can afford insurance but do not purchase it. They know who they are. Lastly, I don't blame the people. I blame the system, which I am hopeful Obamacare will move to improve.

Well, if their healthcare can't be afforded at discounted - rates, how will they pay free market rates? Doing

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away with Medicare would greatly increase healthcare expenditures. Is your "answer" for everyone below a professional income, including most retired people, to just forego healthcare until someone finally schleps them into the ICU? My current Nuance policy is really just a catastrophic coverage policy. I can't afford the deductibles, and I can't afford the private practice fees, so my only doctor visit this whole last year was the single 100% covered annual physical.

BTW, a nurse calling her patients freeloaders sounds VERY unprofessional.

Medicaid - mt1347

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I believe it also states in the Healthcare law that patients need to find a PCP - that ER visits will only be covered for true emergencies. I do know that the ER physicians documented for years the abuses of patients with colds, festering wounds, etc. suffering for 5 days or so and then deciding to the come to the ER on Friday night or Saturday and get medical attention - plus all the other misuses of the ER. The AMA had a huge say in that healthcare law - and they used the ammo provided by not just the ER doctors, but other groups. Patients need to some responsibility for themselves, follow the physician's orders, and take the time off from work during the week to see a PCP, not wait until the weekend to go to the ER.

I agree patients SHOULD be more responsible, but many - do not have it in them. nm

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Reminder: Do the numbers 220-215 and 60-39 - ring any bells?

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Those are the final vote tallies in the House and Senate. Ergo, that's how healthcare "passed." By "they," I presume you are referring to the 5-4 SCOTUS vote that upheld the individual mandate. If you've got issues with that, I'd suggest you take it up with them, keeping in mind that they are the FINAL WORD when it comes to the laws of the land, that tends to render your YouTube Obama "lies" review moot, especially considering that the integrity of the healthcare law has been reaffirmed by ALL THREE BRANCHES of the US government.

Truthhurts will probably die unwilling to face unacceptable - truth--that most people want national

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health care. 78% when the Clinton plan was announced. It was only defeated by a giant campaign appealing to the worst of people's characters: "I've got mine and I'd better protect it" for those who still did. In the years following, millions of people suffered and died for lack of healthcare in the "greatest country in the world," and many millions more were left permanently destitute by medical bills, but here is Truthhurts probably never having changed her mind an inch in...how many years?

She's part of a tiny minority but hardly unique. The Social Security Act was passed in 1935, but there are still those around who've spent the past 75+ years insisting THAT's unconstitutional and would never work to begin with, then decades that it can't work, now forced to insist it will eventually, inevitably fail. SS's till serving us in spite of 75 years of continual attempts by its enemies to MAKE it fail, feeding and housing millions upon millions of people who'd otherwise have been left on the streets by various private diasasters, but they're still hoping to be proven right before they die.

but the majority still did NOT want Obamacare. - It is a bloated mess that will help nothing ! nm

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A vast majority do want healthcare reform, though, - and this is what their wishiwashiness

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got them. A couple of hours at most of doing their homework would have changed everything long ago. They didn't tell their representatives what they wanted, and as a result enemies of healthcare reform were empowered to insert many faults into the bill and keep a really good plan from being passed, the idea being to sow seeds of its destruction by keeping it from working well.

Even so, IMO, those who've wanted but opposed healthcare reform because of weakness, laziness, cowardice, and selfishness are getting better than they deserve. We were already in crisis way back in the Clinton era, and a lot of people have died and many times more suffered terribly unnecessarily since. And those people know it.

As for those who've always opposed it simply because their team told them to, and have taken care to know nothing that might conflict, well, what they deserve is what they fought to keep. What they will get is far more. None of them will ever feel an ounce of gratitude to their fellow citizens for saving them from themselves and from the enemies they put their trust in, though. That's just the way it is.

It's not even been fully implemented yet, - so

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the only bloated mess is the one all this gaseous hot air is creating.

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