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Meanwhile, The Nation and Salon Have Come to Accept that the DNC
Posted: Aug 15, 2017
According to legitimate intelligent sources, it stemmed from an internal leak on the east coast (again, has anybody heard from Seth Rich?).
A key smoking gun:
"Investigators found that 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded locally on July 5, 2016. The information was downloaded with a memory key or some other portable storage device. The download operation took 87 seconds — meaning the speed of transfer was 22.7 megabytes per second — “a speed that far exceeds an internet capability for a remote hack,” as Lawrence puts it. What’s more, they say, a transoceanic transfer would have been even slower (Guccifer claimed to be working from Romania).
“Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible,” Folden told The Nation."
I'm shocked they allowed this author to post this official DNC narrative-questioning piece at Salon, but it's always nice to see cooler heads prevail. When will FNN, MSLSD, and the other alphabets report this?
Bring me your down votes and dispute the damning findings with accusations of fake news (striking out rabidly with "bu bu bu Breitbart" ain't gonna' work). You've got nothing, and you will be the one who is sticking your fingers in your ears by denying what we "ignorant" rightists have been saying all along about this sham of a Russian excuse for Hilary's failure.
Conveniently, the conversation has switched back to racism and white supremacy accusations, with an almost perfect timing to coincide with Saturday's deadly events.
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The Original The Nation Article - vin
[ In Reply To ..]That everyone is mum about while we pin white supremacist slurs on anybody who thinks differently.
Thank you but I'll wait for news from - Mueller instead of some
[ In Reply To ..]conspiracy theory.
Is that you, Rachel? - nm
[ In Reply To ..]LOL
To Hell with your Fishing Expeditions - vin
[ In Reply To ..]Those are facts. It's the DNC hack claim that's the conspiracy. Keep praying for an election overturn, just be careful what you wish for.
Nobody is trying - to overturn the
[ In Reply To ..]election - that is a fact. What we good Americans are concerned about is that Russia might have interfered in our democratic process of elections - the conspiracy theories really come from mainly the other side - that's the one you are on right?
Bullshot - vin
[ In Reply To ..]The Hilary campaign concocted this DNC Russian hack. Since they can't find evidence, they have to keep expanding the scope. Hugest scam in politics.
Proof of this concoction? - Or is this just
[ In Reply To ..]more smoke being blown somewhere as usual? Even if they proved the Russians interfered, it would not make Hillary president. She knows it, her voters know it, how come the right don't know it?
Because It Has the Chance of Installing A More Malleable Fellow As the POTUS - vin
[ In Reply To ..]in the form of VP Pence. Of course the rabids (I.e. Maxine Waters) would then try to topple him, but the establishment would feel much more at ease with someone they can more easily control, I have little doubt.
Pence malleable? - I don't see it!
[ In Reply To ..]He is maybe malleable to what his wife insists on, but the man has his own agenda. He is too smart or wily to be a bully about it. Make no mistake, he is just as dangerous as Trump - just much more polite! And Maxine? I don't know how that one keeps getting elected - time for being put out to pasture!
We Agree Career Politicians Need to Go - vin
[ In Reply To ..]But your comments about Pence sound like conspiracy theory themselves. ;)
No conspiracy, - just a good
[ In Reply To ..]judge of character - he is biding his time....
Yet, several of their own Liberal Fascists have gotten caught - up in the Trump witch hunt
[ In Reply To ..]and that is totally ignored, ESPECIALLY by the MSM. What else can you expect from intolerant, hate-filled, racist, biased LFs? Certainly not common sense or critical thinking.
Those are whose facts? Where in my post - did I suggest that I was
[ In Reply To ..]"praying for an election overturn?" Get over it already. Hillary lost.
I would suggest you do some research on who would be president if Trump were indeed found guilty of being involved in the election fraud. That has not happened. there is an investigation going on to see who did what, if anything. Just hypothetically, if Trump were found guilty, Pence would be president.
A little Slow on the Uptake - vin
[ In Reply To ..]No, really? Keep reading the thread before throwing out condescension...Pence is part of the political class that is partially responsible for bringing us to this precipice.
So true! - sm
[ In Reply To ..]LOL at their conspiracy theories. They are truly a "special" bunch aren't they? It's Mueller time!!! Exciting times these are.
Why Do You Automatically Take Crowdstrike's Compromised Word as Fact? - vin
[ In Reply To ..]Inquiring minds want to know, it might help me to better understand your position (though I doubt it).
I mean, you people are still oblivious to the shenanigans engaged by the DNC shown in the Podesta emails (including rigging the primaries, passing debate questions to Hillary in advance, numerous odd and unexplained instances to hot dogs and pizza). It's as if you wouldn't acknowledge corruption and likely criminal activity unless it was Trump behind all these activities. Don't get me started on Wasserman-Schulz, threatening Washington police about getting her IT guy's laptop back. You all just cover your ears and eyes and pretend these people are on the up and up.
Just like you - protecting
[ In Reply To ..]dear sweet Trump! Those people are disgusting, but not in charge anymore! Let's get current! Pizza? Really? Guess you tipped you hand on who you read and follow - like dear sweet Trump who retweeted that idiot's tweet (which of course was quickly deleted).
I Read The Notable Emails - vin
[ In Reply To ..]Maybe you should do the same and start asking what they entail instead of starting the attack dog routine. There is zero evidence to suggest that Wikileaks and Podesta emails have jack squat to do with Trump, same with the Russian hack theory, which is wholly concocted by the DNC.
That doesn't preclude Trump from tweeting about them, which itself is irrespective of my reading of those emails.
Not that you'll bother, but maybe you should start questioning the content and not the messengers who are bringing them to your attention.
I have asked you - sm
[ In Reply To ..]time and again not to bother with your drivel to me. But I'm biting since you start out like you're capable of being civil (silly me for thinking that) "it might help me to better understand your position (though I doubt it)" so why bother? You do not show 1 ounce of ever wanting to have a conversation without attacking. You talk about us covering our eyes and ears over conspiracy theories...seriously, pizzagate???? How is one supposed to explain their stance when you continuously throw this stuff out there? And it will not deflect from the disgusting remarks trump made today nor the outrage he caused making them nor that there's only one investigation going on that involves trump/administration. So I ask, as inquiring minds truly do want to know, can you discuss without attacking??
YOU Brought up Pizzagate - vin
[ In Reply To ..]I MERELY BROUGHT UP THE CONTENT OF HIS LEAKED EMAILS. NOBODY SHOULD BE SHAMED for highlighting the fixation on pizza and hot dogs by a spirit cooking alleged pedophile (Jonathan Podesta), and you are in no position to request that others not attack when you are ever so quick to do it yourself. Again, BRINGING UP THE CONTENT OF THE EMAILS IS ONLY A PROBLEM IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE. Closing your eyes and ears to said content by default makes you look close-minded or maybe you're afraid of what they might reveal so that's why you project and deflect so much. You still haven't explained what makes Crowdstrike's assessment and the DNC assertion that it was Russia who hacked them any more truthful than the factual findings reported at the above link. Maybe you should consult some IT experts and ask them how a remote hack could have possibly been committed at the reported bandwidth? No, forget it, you'll just blame Trump...
...who's remarks were right on the money today. Not one time have you condemned antifa's masked thuggery tactics, which they have used repeatedly. As far as I'm concerned, this is tacit approval of such, as long as they're attacking those you deem to have morally reprehensible views.
Your lackadaisical attitude about patently apparent political corruption (if not criminality) and belittling of those who do highlight it invites attack.
Either change your ways or get used to it.
Welp guess you answered my question. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]No, you are NOT capable of conversation without attacking. Gave you the benefit of the doubt, won't make that mistake again. How DARE YOU tell me or anyone to change their ways. I seriously don't know who you think you are, but I know exactly what you are. I have nothing to change. I have no reason to carry this on with you any further. You're close minded, it's your views and everyone else is wrong, and you are fixated on conspiracies. BTW have YOU condemned white supremacy? How about the guy who killed an innocent protester? Yeah, whatever. Completely done.
Do you folks on the right seriously believe - that this would not be
[ In Reply To ..]splattered all over every single news outlet in the world if it were true?
Wait.......that's another conspiracy that every news outlet will support Hillary and the democrats no matter what and every one of them is trying to take Dumb Donald down.
Newsflash! News sites make money from news, the bigger the better and this theory would certainly be out there on other sites besides right-winged rags.
I have been seeing this kind of garbage while standing in line at the grocery store along with Elvis is still alive type stories all my life and get a laugh every time. It is truly sad that people buy into it.
Salon, The Nation aren't "right-wing rags" - vin
[ In Reply To ..]But they certainly are leftist birdcage fodder.
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