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How does the FBI investigate an ongoing situation

Posted: Mar 22, 2017

I understand how the FBI investigated Clinton's use of email. That was in the past by the time they got involved and there were records, people, and documentation they could look into. How does the FBI investigate an ongoing situation, like the Trump campaign's involvement with Russia, without surveillance? If they're not monitoring communications, how could they say there is no evidence of collusion? If the FBI is involved (as we know they are) then Obama's Justice Department was also involved. Is it a lie to say Obama "wiretapped" Trump, when really it was Obama's Justice Department/Administration? Okay, but it does seem like a minor distinction. My theory about the Russia stuff. It's all about the Democrat elite trying to protect themselves. The Bernie vs. Clinton primary was close to 50/50. The DNC leadership (Wasserman-Schultz and Brazille) put their thumb on the scale for Clinton. THEN SHE LOST! That left a lot of Bernie voters upset at the DNC establishment. They've been desperately trying to shift the blame since the election. ;

So how do you know what the FBI knows??? - sm

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Seriously, are you questioning the FBI's reason for investigation? They have all that they need to have an ongoing investigation obviously. Because you and other "rights" don't believe it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And I find it amusing you UNDERSTAND the Clinton stuff, which BTW came up EMPTY, but don't understand trump. And again with the Obama stuff (yawn). No evidence of wire tapping found, how many times does that need repeated? Do you on the right lie in bed at night thinking this stuff up? How many members of trump's administration have Russian ties to them and are no longer with the liar's administration? 3, 4? They know what they're looking for.

It is funny how much they know about Hillary - yet know or don't care

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to know about Trump. Remember he himself said something like he could shoot someone in the middle of New York and his supporters would still support him. I don't remember the exact phrase but it is true.

Yeah it was something like "I could shoot somebody - Nn

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and not lose voters." Guess that was ok to say though since the right wants no gun control and thinks it's ok for anyone to have one. Sickening.

I agree with you. "They know what they're looking for." - My question was... sm

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Yep, I agree with you. They know what foreign collusion looks like. They know what they're looking for. My question was how do they find it without surveillance?

More specifically, how does a story like the one linked below, from the New York Times, which cites "phone records and intercepted calls" get published without their being surveillance? That's not a valid question?

I wasn't trying to upset you by bringing up Hillary. I was just drawing a comparison between the two most recent FBI political investigations. Hillary, for crimes allegedly committed in the past. Trump, for crimes allegedly ongoing throughout the campaign.

My post contained two subjects:
1. How the FBI investigates an ongoing situation without surveillance?
2. Why the Russia thing continues to be a big deal even though it's been months and there's still no evidence of a crime by Trump or any of his associates.

They're investigating - sm

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voter interference, which means communications with Russians that could effect the outcome of our election. I have never heard they have no surveillance. I'm sure they have what they need or there would be no investigation. Russian ties that could have interfered in voting is a problem as it was no secret Putin wanted Trump. The associates of trump, like Flynn and Sessions, were found to have had communications with Russia. Here's a link from the Chicago Tribune that explains the Russian ties better. Hope it works.

The FBI conducting surveillance - Old and burned out

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is different from President Obama ordering a wire tap on Trump Tower. Trump accused Obama of a felony.

My theory - Resist Trump

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is that all Trump true believers are going to keep supporting him no matter what information is presented to them. I don't know what it will take to change their minds but we obviously haven't yet reached that point yet. For the sake of the country, I hope it doesn't take too long.

This is how Obama supporters are viewed. It never - mattered what he did or said,

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it was wonderful. No matter how he "fundamentally" transformed America from how it was founded or unconstitutional law was passed, no Obama supporter cared.

But you see - sm

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Obama isn't in the WH right now. Trump is. And he's being investigated for Russian ties. Do you understand that? (countdown to bringing Obama/Clinton into that 10...9....8 )

What difference does that make? The point is, Obama - could do no wrong. How many times

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does the left still bring up Bush?

countdown 5...4...3....

Well as far as I know - Nn

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there were no ties to Russia ever being investigated. As I remember he didn't tweet false statements or allegations either, such as accusing someone ever wire tapping him. I seem to recall Obama released his taxes, which is easy to do when you got nothing to hide. I could go on if you would like. I got nothing to say about Bush...at all. He's barely worth remembering anyway. Sorry to disappoint.

That really isn't true - Burt the Cat

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There were a number of Obama's policies that were criticized by the left - foreign policy mostly. The reason he resorted to executive actions was that the Republicans refused to work with him on anything.

That's crap. He didn't even try on most of them. - nm

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nm

And then the right - sm

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goes and gives nasty responses to answers. Seriously, she gave an answer and you come back with this? Well I will say he tried and accomplished more than this thing in office ever will. How any woman can support this thing is beyond me.

"The reason he resorted to executive actions..." - Wow, can Trump do that too

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and use that excuse? Wow. Why even have a House of Representatives?

With a monitor like Resist Trump, your hostility already - is apparent and your point of view

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so it is hard to have a conversation.

Trump haters are going to keep opposing him no matter what. We are divided.

I didn't say to hate Trump - Resist Trump

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just to resist his agenda. If he comes up with a good plan to improve the infrastructure in this country, I will support it. If, on the other hand, he turns the projects over to profiteers, I will still resist. I will also continue to resist the supposed health care reform which rewards the wealthy and hurts the most vulnerable. There is a lot to resist.

I agree with this completely. - sm

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I would support any plan that would create more jobs, fix the health insurance and keep fighting terrorism WITHOUT discriminating against religions. I will support anything for this country. As a self-respecting woman though, the man himself repulses me to the very bone and I'll never respect him for that reason.

Most ultra leftists don't really personally know anybody who - voted for Trump, so they really have no

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idea. They live in a bubble.

Ultra leftist? - sm

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Not sure what that is. I'm a democrat, not a liberal or ultra or whatever you want to call it. Speaking for myself, my sister voted trump. I think you can say I know her well. I don't live in a bubble and I certainly don't live in denial, like the right do. But I can say her bubble burst as she is now questioning her voting decision. I applaud her for that.

This is the mantra going around on Facebook by liberals. - "Trump voters questioning decision"

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I don't buy it.

This is why I don't do Facebook. - NM

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NM

Of course you don't - sm

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Because God forbid someone say something truthful. I have a sister, she voted for trump against my preaching and now she's sorry she did. Pretty simple. She's 61, doesn't do facebook so I have no idea what you're talking about. But of course it's not a conspiracy theory regarding Obama or Clinton, it's truth, so therefore you don't buy it. I feel sorry for you.

You dont "buy it?" Check out a Twitter account called: - hawkmt

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Trump Regrets.

I really don't think Obama fans are in a position to - lecture Trump supporters on

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anything. Step back and take a look at yourselves.

What are we looking for? - Nn

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Was there an investigation on Obama and Russia too that I didn't know about?

I think the leftists here made your point. No one cared - about Benghazi, IRS denying Tea

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Party, Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch, Iran nuke deal, denying for foreign aid and then denying he was a foreigner, first president to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States, ignoring court orders and going ahead and stopping drilling anyway, to name a few.

Not to mention his illegal surveillance of Trump. - NM

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xx

Proof please- - sm

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Oh that's right, there was none! LOL.

Well I for one - sm

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won't divert attention from the present situation at hand, but nice try. Russia, Trump, false allegations without evidence, voter interference and the list goes on and on in only 2 MONTHS, WOW! This is 2017, the here and now. But if your obsession with Obama is what makes you sleep at night, then have at it.

The original post was to show how Obama voters - feel he can do no wrong and many examples

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were cited. I believe you are the one taking it out of context.

For the record, there is no evidence of voter interference.

But nice try.

Well we don't know that yet do we? - sm

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Hence the ongoing investigation. So proof please of no voter interference and then give it to the FBI so they can stop the investigation. And I know what your post was about. What's it feel like on the right to have a post diverted?? Don't like it do you? But to answer, which is something the right doesn't ever do, There is NO president without fault, none. And FYI I didn't agree with Obama on a lot of things, but I agreed on a lot as well, which is normal. This one in office now, there is nothing in 2 months that gives me any reason to see anything good in him at all. Not...a...thing. His actions in 2 months are worse than what it takes many presidents 4-8 years to do.

EXACTTLY! The most important question then is - what type of surveillance was done

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and who authorized it.

The most important question is was there - a Trump-Russian tie?

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Still trying to find ways around that one I see. Wait until the investigation is done and the findings are known and then you'll know how they got facts.

DO NOT expect any kind of answer - Nn

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whatsoever to ANY question. And I accidentally liked that ridiculous post above this. That's how they do things, avoid the REAL issue at hand, deflect and divert, AVOID any questions about it, bring OBAMA AND CLINTON into EVERYTHING and keep BELIEVING a lying conman. One good thing, my sister, who voted for this moron, has come around. Took a couple of months, but at least she's seeing it with her own eyes. RELIEF!

I would like to know why the DNC refused the FBI - access to their server.

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Big media is censoring this story.

Back in 2008, Maxine Waters arranged a meeting between the - Treasury Dept and top executives

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of the bank where her husband was a shareholder. Using her post on the House Financial Committee as leverage, she called Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson personally.

We are we supposed to trust anymore?

When I investigate a man and prove he’s a criminal, if he doesn’t already work for the government, they’ll hire him. If he already has a government job, once they hear he’s a crook they’ll promote him. The criminals in Congress only feel comfortable with other criminals.”

Charlie Winstead, the FBI agent who gunned down John Dillinger.

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