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How Sarah Palin Could End Up As President


Posted: Oct 27, 2010

Scary thought but could easily happen.

2012: How Sarah Barracuda Becomes President

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By John Heilemann

On a pale-gold mid-October afternoon, Sarah Palin takes the stage at the San Jose Center for the Performing Arts, and the faithful are ready for her. The crowd, 1,500 strong, is mostly white, on the older side, and casually dressed—though in my row there’s a hulking young Samoan in full Revolutionary War regalia. For the past hour, the audience has been treated to a series of warm-up acts that aren’t your typical Northern California fare: a choir called Celestial City; the head of the outfit sponsoring the event, the Liberty & Freedom Foundation, who speaks of a conservative “reawakening”; and a local talk-radio host whose shtick is that of a bargain-basement Glenn Beck, replete with attacks on Karl Marx, Richard Nixon (for creating the EPA), Nancy Pelosi, and, of course, “Barack Hussein Obama.”

Palin’s own brand of performance art is no less barbed and no more subtle, but still infinitely fascinating. In a deep-blue jacket and tight black skirt, she uncorks a 40-minute soliloquy that is equal parts populism, moralism, stand-up comedy, and free association, all rendered in a syntax as fractured as Joe Theismann’s tibia after Lawrence Taylor got through with him. She doles out personal, if possibly fictitious, anecdotes that position her, despite the millions she has pocketed in the past two years, as a defiantly downscale girl: that she and Todd drove their motor home from Wasilla to Los Angeles (distance: 3,375 miles) to watch Bristol on Dancing With the Stars. She winks (metaphorically) at her pop-culture image, snapping off a “you betcha” and later declaring, “November 2 is right around the corner—I can see it from my house!” She rails against union bosses who are “thugs” and “elitist billionaires who are funding the leftist agenda,” while gaily mocking Obama, Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, and Jerry Brown: “They act like they’re permanent residents of some unicorn ranch in fantasyland.” She invokes the California of old as a paradise lost and declares that it must be regained: “I want you all to get to yell ‘Eureka’ in this Golden State of opportunity.” And she cites Ronald Reagan in promising the same for the country: “If we do our part, as President Reagan said … the great confident roar of American progress, growth, and optimism will resound again!”

This is a stump speech—or, at least, it sounds that way to many in the crowd. With each stanza, their cheers for Palin escalate from loud to deafening, and by the end, more than a few are shouting out, “Run, Sarah!” and “Madam President!”

Until not long ago, the only people who took seriously the notion that Palin would make a White House bid in 2012, let alone win the Republican nomination, were those who really do live at the unicorn ranch—and spend their time there huffing pixie dust. When Palin quit the Alaska governorship in 2009, her political career seemed over. And even after she resurrected herself, emerging through her media ubiquity and her aggressive endorsement strategy as arguably the most powerful figure in the GOP, much of the political world believed that she was animated by non-presidential motives. To further pad her bank account. To redeem her reputation. To turn herself into the party’s preeminent kingmaker. Or possibly all three.

But today the conventional wisdom about Palin is being revised again, nowhere more so than within the ranks of professional Republicans. Among two dozen senior strategists and operatives with whom I’ve spoken in recent days—including many of those responsible for securing the nomination for the party’s last three standard-bearers—there is a growing consensus that Palin is running or setting herself up to run. All agreed that her entry would radically and fundamentally transform the race. Most averred that if she steps into the fray, she stands a reasonable chance of claiming the Republican prize. Indeed, more than one argued that she is already the de facto front-runner.

For many Republicans, a Palin nomination would be a shrieking nightmare—just as for most Democrats, it would be a wet dream. (Asked about the possibility by reporters, David Plouffe, Obama’s 2008 campaign manager, quipped, “Something tells me we won’t get that lucky.”) The emotions here are diametrically opposed but based on a shared conviction: that Palin, whose national approval rating in a CBS News poll this month stood at a lowly 22 percent, is irredeemably unelectable, and thus her nomination would essentially guarantee Obama a second term.

Or would it? In a two-way contest, almost certainly. But what if a Palin nomination provoked a credible independent candidacy? What if the candidacy in question was that of, oh, Michael Rubens Bloomberg? What would happen then?

That’s a lot of ifs, I hear you saying, and you are not wrong. Yet none of these twists is actually all that implausible. In fact, the likelihood of Bloomberg’s running is just as great as, if not greater than, it was when he considered taking the plunge in 2008—and that specter is very much on the minds of Obama’s people. In the past few months, the White House has made a gaudy show of sucking up to the mayor: inviting him to play golf in Martha’s Vineyard with Obama, floating his name as a potential Treasury secretary, dispatching Joe Biden and Tim Geithner to have breakfast with him and seek his economic counsel. The motivations behind the blandishments are many, but not the least is to blunt the Bloomberg threat—to keep him on the sidelines in 2012, where he and his billions would pose no danger of redrawing the electoral map in unpredictable and perilous ways.

The unpredictability and the peril would increase exponentially with Palin in the mix. This scenario might seem bizarre, but we live in bizarre times. At a moment like the present—when American politics is wildly polarized and unstable, populist fervor has gripped the right and left, and the economy continues to flatline—it’s worth contemplating how much weirder things might get in 2012, and whether that weirdness could be so extreme as to make the unthinkable thinkable.

To wit: President Palin, anyone?

On the day Palin was driving the throng into a frenzy in San Jose, Mitt Romney was in Bedminster, New Jersey, appearing at a sedate fund-raising lunch for Representative Leonard Lance. This is how Romney has spent much of 2010: tirelessly tilling the Republican fields, collecting chits and dispensing dollars from coast to coast. As of September 30, according to Politico, the former Massachusetts governor’s PAC had donated nearly $1 million to 188 candidates for the House, two dozen for the Senate, and twenty for governorships. By Election Day, his frantic schedule will have carried him to 30 states.

In a normal presidential cycle, Romney would be the clear Republican front-runner. His operation is top-notch. His PAC raked in $5.1 million in the first three quarters of the year, more than any other prospective candidate. And since he finished as runner-up to John McCain in 2008, it is, as they say, his turn—a quality that usually matters hugely in a party that has long operated in accord with the principle of primogeniture. Yet, for all of his dogged efforts, Romney has failed to solidify his status as the man to beat. A recent NBC News–Wall Street Journal poll found that his favorability among conservative voters is just 30 percent.

The reasons are myriad, but paramount among them is his role in enacting a health-care law in Massachusetts that bears a striking similarity to the controversial (and loathed on the right) federal overhaul that Democrats passed this year. Scott Reed, who ran Bob Dole’s campaign in 1996, argues that Obamacare in 2012 will be “what Iraq was to the Democrats last time, the defining issue and a fault line in the party”—one that may well prove as harmful to Romney as Hillary Clinton’s vote authorizing the war was to her in 2008. Grover Norquist, head of Americans for Tax Reform, likens Romney’s history on health care to “a boat anchor attached to his leg,” which he needs to get rid of “or [his candidacy] doesn’t work.” Can he do it? “Yeah, just explain it was the crystal meth,” Norquist cracks.

Health care may be the most acute of Romney’s ailments, but it is symptomatic of a deeper malady: his uneasy fit with a party base where all of the energy is flowing toward insurgency. “Candidates like Romney have been getting killed all around the country,” says the consultant Alex Castellanos, who advised the governor in 2008. “It’s Romney who’s lost seven or eight Republican primaries—Establishment candidates who’ve been overthrown.”

Castellanos is talking about the effect of the tea party, which is all but certain to be anything but diminished by the midterm results on November 2. “That group of folks is gonna be more passionate, more energized, and more engaged,” argues Matthew Dowd, George W. Bush’s chief strategist in 2004. Their ire, too, may be exacerbated in the event that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell fail to sate their anti-government yearnings with dramatic cuts in spending and taxes and a repeal of Obamacare—a likely outcome given Boehner and McConnell’s insider proclivities and the president’s veto pen.

Romney will not be the only candidate given fits by the rise of the tea party. Today, there are four other potential establishmentarian candidates giving serious thought to running: Mississippi governor Haley Barbour, Indiana governor Mitch Daniels, Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, and South Dakota senator John Thune. And all have résumés, temperaments, and/or policy positions unlikely to sit well with the tea-partyers: Barbour is a former Republican National Committee chairman and big-time corporate lobbyist; Daniels was Bush’s budget director and a longtime Beltway player; Pawlenty is an erstwhile liberal on climate change; and Thune is, well, a senator, and a milquetoasty one at that.

“All those guys, they could try and turn it up and have the fervor, but voters are gonna read through it,” says Dowd. “It’s just not authentic to them, because they’ve been part of the Washington scene or taking part in state politics, where they cut deals and made compromises—which is part of governing but lethal in this environment.”

On this reading, the tea party and its populist brethren seem likely to emerge as the new Christian right, only more powerful—not merely exercising an effective veto over any nominee but altering the underlying dynamics of the race. “There will be two simultaneous primaries: a mainstream-conservative primary and a primary in the anti-Establishment wing of the party,” says John Weaver, McCain’s guru in 2000 and the early part of his run in 2008. “And then there’ll be a playoff down the road between the winners of the two.”

The most prominent potential contestants in the tea-party bracket are the Fox News candidates, literally (all are on Rupert Murdoch’s payroll) and figuratively: Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, and Palin. Among insiders, Huckabee is widely written off because he lacks the capacity to raise big cash and his appeal is limited to Evangelicals, whose influence is fading in the party; many insiders expect him not to run.

The opposite is true of Gingrich. Unlike in 2008, when public speculation about his diving in was matched by private reluctance on his part, this time the former Speaker of the House appears intent on running. But while Gingrich has garnered plenty of headlines with his rhetorical napalm blasts—comparing backers of the ground-zero mosque to Nazis, saying that Obama has a “Kenyan, anti-colonial” worldview, asserting that HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius behaves in “the spirit of the Soviet tyranny”—his inability to moderate or modulate himself causes Republican pros to discount his viability. “We Republicans are so desperate for an ideas guy like Newt Gingrich that sometimes we even turn to Newt Gingrich,” says Castellanos. “[But] he is not a serious candidate for president.”

Another conceivable tea-party suitor is Texas governor Rick Perry, who appears on the verge of winning his third full term in office. Running in a primary against Kay Bailey Hutchison, the state’s senior U.S. senator, Perry became a darling of the Washington-haters when he suggested that Texas might secede from the union. Having balanced his state’s budget every year by keeping a lid on spending, he is beloved by fiscal hawks; packing a .380 Ruger (which he used to plug a coyote recently when it threatened his dog while they were jogging—the coyote “became mulch,” he said), he’s a hero to Second Amendment zealots and ****-kickers alike.

But Perry hasn’t given the slightest public indication that he’s interested in running, and even if he did get in, he might well prove no match for Palin in the anti-Establishment tier. “She has a greater claim to outsider status than anybody else in the race or who might get into the race,” says Vin Weber, a former Minnesota congressman who backed Romney in 2008 and will be with Pawlenty this time around. “Whether it’s tea-party activists, Evangelicals, or whatever stripe of activist you’re talking about, she has the strongest grassroots base, the most credibility, and the greatest appeal of anybody in the party.”

Weber pauses. “If she runs, she’s a very serious factor,” he says. “Everyone’s strategy is going to have to change—everyone’s. It’s a big computation to make.”

After Palin finished her quasi-prepared remarks in San Jose, she planted herself in a chair positioned a few feet stage left and proceeded to engage in ten minutes of Q&A with the honcho from the Liberty & Freedom Foundation. The Qs were big fat floating softballs (“Isn’t there a better way to lower that $1.4 trillion deficit than just using tax increases?”), but one hinted obliquely at the matter on everybody’s mind: “There are going to be a lot of people running [for president] in 2012 … With such a crowded field coming up, do you think that’s gonna help or hurt the eventual candidates?”

“Competition breeds success and makes everybody work harder,” Palin said. “So I want to see a very aggressive contested primary where everybody has to engage … Now, contested primaries, even through this last election cycle, it’s been very interesting, it’s been fun to be able to engage in them. I’ve endorsed candidates who maybe were second or third or fourth in line down in the polls, maybe underfunded, outgunned, you know, heretofore unknown, and to endorse them, it’s always a double-edged sword, because, you know, if I put my name in close to their campaign, then they’re under extra scrutiny and they get clobbered in the press—and I feel horrible for them! So, more power to those bold ones who accept my endorsement!”

For those who believe Palin plans to run in 2012, the fact that she has thrown herself into so many races—to date, she has endorsed 56 candidates, 35 of them tea-partyers—is a significant piece of evidence. There are others. The fund-raising total for her PAC through September 30 ($2.5 million) ranks behind only Romney among potential candidates. She has given more than 70 speeches this year all across the country. In September, she dipped her toe in the Iowa waters by headlining the state party’s annual Ronald Reagan Dinner.

Much was made of the fact that Palin did none of the traditional kowtowing to Republican activists and local officials in the Hawkeye State. Yet, in other places, she has begun courting GOP lever-pullers whose support is critical to winning the nomination. Earlier this month, Palin attended a closed-door dinner at the Breakers in Palm Beach, hosted by the CEO of the conservative media company Newsmax and attended by several dozen A-list insiders, and repeatedly invoked the memory of Reagan. In doing so, she not only tried implicitly to rebut concerns about her electability—noting that naysayers said the same about the Gipper in 1980—but imbue herself with an optimism that some Republicans have found lacking in her relentless assaults on Obama. (In San Jose, she name-checked Reagan eleven times, often in proximity to terms such as “positive” or “exceptionalism.”)

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Not a Palin fan, but at this point, she could not do - much worse than Obama.nm

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Isn't it strange how the left is so worried about Sarah Palin, hmmm? Prez Palin - - sounds good to me. nm

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I figure she'll run and win - ImaHater

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and the Mayan calendar predictions will come true and the world will combust in December 2012 with her never being able to take office.... a much preferable fate IMO.

LOL - Your post did make me laugh - Not obsessed with SP here

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I forgot about 2012. I guess in the end none of this really matters does it. I did like the way you put it "the world will combust with her never being able to take office". LOL

Sarah is the antichrist!!! I knew it. - nm

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Yeah, I'm sure if you spell her name backwards it must spell something - satanic. LOL

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And you thought the antichrist would be a man. ha ha ha.

What a racist article - Not obsessed with SP here

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Next time someone says that a speech given by BO was filled with black people lets watch the "racist" name be thrown about.

I guess if the guy is into writing fiction he'd be okay. He should just quit writing anything political as he's not very experienced.

Don't you realize how much this shows how obsessed you are with SP.

I think she's okay. I don't like her voice (hits a nerve), but her message is a good one.

Also as we've all learned through this ordeal we've gone through over the past couple years now more people wish they would have voted for McCain/Palin.

So I guess time will tell. I don't expect she will be a candidate because the GOP has said they are not looking at her as a candidate but you never know. Sure would be an improvement.

What would McCain/Palin be doing differently right now? - sm

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And your answer can't be "They wouldn't be doing any worse than Obama."

Well...considering they didn't win this - sm

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is a tough one to answer because we all know that politicians will say anything to get elected.

However, I would like to think that they would have cut back spending. That right there would have encouraged more employers to hire because they wouldn't be terrified of higher taxes because of the out of control spending. Just a thought. ;)

Palin - no way

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It is a shame to think there are actually people in this country that would vote for her. This country does seem to have a memory deficit. She couldn't even finish her term as governor, and people would be willing to have her as a president, just as they have forgotten that 8 years of Bush has gotten this country where it is today and not 2 years of Obama.

I disagree - see message

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Just like you think its a shame that people would "actually vote for her", there are so many in this country who think it's a shame that people actually voted for Obama. Granted we did not have much of a choice, but knowing what we do about him I think it's a shame that people still did.


The country does not have a memory deficit. We know who Sarah Palin was, her experience as a governor of a state and what she stood for, how she voted, etc. There were reasons for her stepping down as governor. The problem is the Palin-haters were so eager to jump at the chance to trash her even more. They didn't have enough fun trashing her when she was a running candidate with McCain, they had to take it one step further and continue trash-n-bashin. It was a lot of fun for them to try and destroy her life. But I looked further than that to get the honest answer. By the way there have been democrats who have stepped down from their positions before so this was nothing new. She just happened to be the most hated woman in America so everyone was happy to jump on the band wagon. But she did what she felt was best for her state and people should just trust in her and let it be. You know the same trust you demand everyone give yours truly in his decisions.

Nobody has forgotten the Bush years and where it got us, however the blind Obama followers are conveniently forgetting/ignoring the fact that in 2 years he has taken the country down a worse road. 2 years of Obama has far outdone the 8 years of Bush. The problems we are having now, not all are Obama's fault. Nobody has ever said EVERYTHING was his fault, however, there are things that ARE his fault and he needs to take responsibility. Something he has never done. He is the one who put our country trillions into debt and I won't go into the long list of other issues that have hurt this country.

Take responsibility for things that are his fault and stop blaming Bush for every single thing.

disagree - blind

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You can go ahead and "trust in her" if you want, that is your right. I do not "trust in her." She quit her job as governor to write books and make money.

If you want to believe Obama has far outdone the 8 years of Bush, you go ahead and believe that. He did not put our country in the huge debt it is in, Bush did. Yes, more debt has come about since Obama, but not nearly as much as Bush did. I'm not blaming Bush for every single thing, but you seem to want to blame Obama for things that he did not do. This country was in shambles before he came to office. Is Obama a perfect president? No. But you are the one who needs to put things in perspective and realize one man cannot fix 8 years of abuse to our country in the short time he has been in there.
Yes he did put the country in debt - Blind?
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I guess you are if you don't see it.

Palin-haters will always find something to trash her about. Oh, I get it, your just upset that she has made some money by writing a book. Funny, you are perfectly fine with other democrats stepping down in their rolls and writing books and making money. Typical hypocrite. Well I'm glad she wrote a book, I'm glad she made some money and I hope she makes a lot more. The fact of the matter is she stepped down because she thought it was the best thing to do. I don't care whether she wrote a book, had a baby, or traveled the world. She has worked hard for what she has.

If you want to believe Obama has not occurred any debt while in office, everything is all Bush's fault, and he is the messiah, etc, you go ahead and believe that.

In 8 years Bush increased the debt by 4 trillion.

In 2 years Obama has been in office he increased the debt by 3 trillion.

So lets see, simple math can give you the answer to that. 4T/8 years versus 3T/2 years.

The simple fact is the debt has not come down. It's getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Our country cannot sustain that kind of debt. They are printing money we don't have anything to back up with. Do you even realize what that means? It's time to STOP blaming Bush for every little hiccup that happens. All the promises Obama made he has renigged on. There are some solutions to help, but he won't listen to anyone who has the "R" associated with their names. All he wants to do is spend, spend, spend and blame Bush for things that are not Bush's fault. Obama is the one who promised to bring our troops home and he's didn't and he's not planning to. We are now in Obama's forever war. We've lost over 3 million jobs since he's been in office. That is not Bush's fault. Things under Obama's watch are Obama's fault. Decisions congress is making is congress (the democrats) fault NOT Bush's. Blame needs to be put where blame is due. Was Bush a perfect president? Of course not, no president is. You are the one who needs to put things in perspective. Especially with the same ol same ol routine of "one man cannot fix 8 years of abuse in the short time he has been in there". Please get a new line. That doesn't work anymore. Tired of the he can't fix things overnight routine. The man has had 2 years. That is half of his term. Nobody ever said we expected him to fix things overnight. But running up the debt by 3 trillion in the "short time" he's been there is unacceptable. Not filling his campaign promises is unacceptable. Not doing anything to help our economy get better, but instead to promote his spending spree on our money, us funding his "date nights", his lavish (frat) parties at the WH on OUR dime, his spending, spending, spending when the country is saying NO, his losing over 3 miilion jobs, (and when I say his I mean congress, not Obama personally because congress is the ones who vote). The stuff he is doing now does not have anything to do with Bush. This is his doing. The spendulous bill passed is not because of anything Bush has done. The health care bill passed is not Bush's fault. Many of the bills being voted on and passed are NOT Bush's fault. Waiting 9 days (get it NINE days) to respond to the gulf disaster is NOT Bush's fault.

This has GOT to stop and the best way is through the election. Time to take the blinders off and look at what is going on in an objective manner, but I don't think many democrats can do that. They are too busy blaming Bush for any past, present and future problems that arise.
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Okay, I will ask you an honest question and please give me an honest answer. I will not bash Bush and you cannot bash Obama.

Back to Sarah Palin. I would like you to tell me why you think she would be a good president. I would like to know what her plans are for our country. Exactly what type of plan does she have?

I am not bashing her, I have honestly only heard her saying things like we have to go in a different direction and bash the democrats. I have not heard anything that she would do to fix this country. I'm not trying to be a smart ars, just asking an honest question.

My honest view is that I don't like her. I feel she quit her job to make money and avoid the impending scandals she was going to face. I have read a lot of negativity about her from the people in Alaska.

I am asking you, honestly, what does she have to offer our country? Honestly, I would want to know this of anyone who will run in 2012, whether democrat or republican. I will say I voted for Obama but have voted Republican in the past. I just voted for who I felt would do the best job and felt he would do the best for us. Maybe not your opinion, and that is your right. Just want to know what you have heard that Sarah will do for us.

Thank you
My honest answer and no bashing here - Blind?
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I will stick strictly to the issue of SP and nothing else. Also, throughout my post when I say the word "you" I don't mean specifically "you", it's just a word I will use to mean anyone, so if I write something I'm not directing it at you.

I have never in any of my posts ever said that I think she would make a good president because I don't think she would. I don't want her to run for President and I don't believe the GOP has ever endorsed her or led anyone to believe they would consider her for President. I think I have heard her say she wouldn't rule it out if they ask her, but I have never heard the leader of the party or anyone in the party say they are considering her for presidential candidate.

Now, with that said here is my issue. I'm sick to death of the Palin haters bashing her and thinking it's okay to post up on boards for people to see that they wish her dead. I've read that people are upset that she wrote and sold a book and made money, but they are fine with people in their own political party stepping down, writing and selling books and making money, just not her (I'm not saying you, because I don't know if you ever said it, but in the past people on this board have said that).

Here's my stance with SP. I don't really care about her. I don't care if she gives speeches, writes books, stars in a movie, or just goes back home and lives a quiet life. I wish she would do the last thing, because truthfully I'm getting tired of her. Her voice grates on my nerves so bad, its like a dentist drilling into a nerve in my tooth. Just very very irritating, but on no terms do I ever wish anything bad to happen to her or for her to be homeless and pennyless like a lot of people on this board do, and I certainly don't want her dead like a lot of people do (again not you, just reading a lot of posts here and elsewhere that is what comes off). Personally I just don't care about her.

Now...with that said here is what I truly believe. You can believe anything you want as we all our entitled to our opinions, but here is what I honestly feel about her stepping down. After reading about 20 or so articles from different sites trying to get an independent take on this, which was quite hard to do because on the internet it seemed like the only people writing articles are the palin-haters bashing and trashing her if she farts in the wrong direction or wears a dress jacket with a pair of jeans, or any other stupid reason they bash her, but I was able to find some articles awhile back. I truly believe that she did not step down to make money, but because she felt it was the best thing for her state. I think she was facing a lot of scandels going on (most of which were found to be not true), and she believed it would reflect poorly on the state. So stepped down. I don't think it was to make money because her book was already in the works. Her speaking "gigs" were already planned ahead of time and whether or not she was still governor she still would have done them. I know she was going through a lot of difficult things, and her family suffered as badly with people trashing her kids and all the false stories going out about how she should have aborted her down's syndrome baby, other articles saying that the baby was really her daughters, etc, and I just believe she thought it was best for the position that she step down. I don't think of her as a "quitter". From listening to her speak about it and reading various articles, I think with all things considered she felt it was the best decision to make. I give her credit for putting the job as governor and stepping down higher than her own interests. Most politicians try to hang onto their careers no matter what hardships/scandels they are facing because they put themselves above what is best for the people of their state. There are plenty of them in Washington doing that now. She did not do that and that is what I give her credit for.

Now...I do not think she would make a good president or VP, but I do think she would be a good person in a cabinet position. Whether people want to believe it or not she's a smart women. She is also a fast learner. Sure a lot of people will tear her apart, picking out every minuscule syllable she mispronounces, making fun of her accent, criticizing that she said this or that, but they completely ignore the fact that politicians in their group also get nervous and screw up things when they speak too. I even saw a post on the board here that posted a very basic and simple paragraph and said that it made no sense, but upon reading it it made perfect sense.

She was the governor of Alaska for 2 years and a Mayor for 10 years. She also was President of Alaska Conference of Mayors and also a city council member. So she does have a lot of experience and knowledge about political issues no matter whether or not you believe it. She passed bills that were good for her state and I have read a lot of positive things about her from the people in Alaska. Of course there will be some negative things too, just goes with the territory of any governor. You could take any one of the states in America and there are people who like and dislike their governor, but I have read that she was well liked throughout her state by a lot of people and she did good things for her state.

She is very knowledgeable about a lot of issues that are important to our country (economy, jobs, debt, energy, etc). She balanced a budget in her state and just did very good things while she was governor. So I think some position in a cabinet would be good. Just not President or VP, and please let someone else give her speeches. If I never hear her voice again it will be too soon.

In the past I have voted for different candidates depending on their issues and there have been elections where I didn't vote. The first election I was old enough to vote was in 1976. I voted for Carter. Then I joined the service and didn't vote the next election in which Reagan won. Then the next one I voted for Reagan because I thought he was a good president. Then the next one I didn't vote cos I didn't like Bush Sr. or Dukakis. The next one I voted for Clinton cos I didn't like Bush Sr. The next one I voted for Ross Perot cos I didn't like the other two. Then I voted for Bush cos I couldn't stand Gore and didn't want a 3rd Clinton term. Then the next one I didn't vote cos I didn't like Bush or Kerry. Then I voted Obama in the primaries cos I wanted to do anything to keep from Clinton getting in (and Billy back in), but when it came to the actual election I didn't vote cos I didn't like McCain and I had learned more about Obama and didn't like what I learned. So my voting in the past has been back and forth. It will all depend on the issues and if I don't like any of the candidates I don't vote.

So on final note I do not want SP as president. There is nothing that could convince me that she would be qualified to be President, but then again I don't think the current one is qualified or knows what he is doing. That is not bashing, that is my own personal opinion. We are all entitled to our opinions. However, if people are going to unjustly bash her for no reason and pick her apart I will defend her because truthfully...she does not deserve what has been done to her.

I know I will most likely get flamed for my opinions, but those are them. Sorry this was so long, but I don't feel like going back and editing and cutting anything out.
Do you forget that all was well - sm
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during Bush's administration until the democrats got the majority in congress? Funny how most people forget that. Now let's see...who makes the decisions on government spending? Oh wait a minute....it is congress. So I do believe that democrats have as much blame to our crappy economy as Bush does.

Really tired of blind democrats who refuse to see the faults of their own party. Get a clue!
And you forget - that you need
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a filibuster-proof senate and veto over-ride power.
Yes, but we CAN expect him not to make it WORSE. - sam
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The national debt was a little over 10 trillion when Bush left office. It was over 5 trillion when he took office so he raised it about 5 trillion. Unacceptable. It is over 13 trillion now, soon to be 14 trillion. That is 4 trillion in just 2 years. You can just imagine what it will be after a full term. Also unacceptable, even MORE so. When someone hands you a problem caused by spending, COMMON sense should tell you...uhhh....STOP SPENDING. Those are the FACTS. Now if you choose NOT to believe the FACTS, nothing can be done about that. Obama has not stopped or changed anything...he is Bush on steroids as far as spending is concerned. He has increased spending and is going to surpass the deficit that Bush created in eight years (2 terms) in just one term. Anyone who wants to know the truth just google it for pete's sake. I do realize that some people will never leave the river denial, even when the truth stares them in the face...and are willing to flush the country down the toilet rather than face that truth. Shaking my head on that one.
worse - sm
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First of all, you can google and find anything good or bad on either Bush or Obama, it is what you choose to google for.

Secondly, when Obama came to office, we were in the midst of a war that Bush started. Now, originally, we were looking for the terrorists in Afghanistan that blew up the World Trade Center, which is fine. But that soon ended and they were forgotten when we invaded Iraq for a personal war for Georgie. So, when Obama came to office, we were still having to pay for that. He is now removing troops from there, which is great, and we are back in Afghanistan, where we should have stayed all along. Many people have different views on the war there and you can believe what you want, but that is a lot of the cost that Obama adopted.

Another thing, all the bail-outs were started when Bush was in office and continued into Obama's term, which we had to pay for.

Yes, Obama got the health care going and many disagree with that. Maybe you make tons of money and have health insurance, but I went for years without health insurance and am glad he got that going. Health care has been shot down by republicans for years. Hillary tried to get it going during the Clinton years, but it was shot down. Now, yes, this health care is going to cost some money. It is going to raise taxes to the wealthy. It is also going to give people the opportunity that could not have it before get it now. It is also going to delete 16 million or so illegal aliens from the insurance system. I don't know about you, but I would rather have my tax dollars go to help citizens of our country than illegal aliens. This plan is not perfect and still needs work, but all in all, we need some type of national health care whether you believe it or not. Too many people in this country are suffering from not being able to get help. Not all of them are lazy people that want everything for free. I am now married and have health insurance, but spent many years raising a child by myself, working several jobs to make ends meet and could not get health insurance.

Obama is also trying to get rid of the tax credits for companies taking their jobs overseas. I do not see where this is a bad thing but the republicans do.

As in all policies of our government, there are good things and bad things involved. We can't always agree on everything in all policies, but we sometimes have to take some bad with the good.

You keep shaking your head, I think you are the one that needs to face the facts.

Now I am sure you are going to google and find something that makes me wrong, but I lived through the Bush years and I know what went on and what is going on now. Many of the costs we are having now have to do with things that were adopted in the Bush years, whether you believe it or not. It is hard to stop spending when we have to pay for things that were so messed up from before and we can't just stop them because a new president is in office. He has to finish what the other guy starts.

So go ahead and google your heart away and come up with your proof, but I know what the facts are.
Please post particular things that Bush started.... - sam
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\"a lot of things\" means nothing.

The facts I know are these: First, CONGRESS started the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was a democractically controlled congress in Bush\'s last term. The President cannot start a war. Only Congress can. So you can blame Democrats AND Republicans for that. Second, one of Obama\'s campaign promises was that he would stop the war in Iraq and bring the troops home within a year. The President CAN stop wars. He did not. He still has not. And the troops he DID withdraw from Iraq are now in Afghanistan and that war has been increased. You blaming Bush for that too??

The bailouts were started when Bush was still President, but you don\'t recall Obama going back to Washington to talk to the Dems about it during the campaigning? I do. He was not against the bailouts. Bush did not bail out GM, Obama did. Bush did not start cash for clunkers, Obama did. That cost us an arm and a leg and did not do anything to improve anything.

In case it escaped you, the financial meltdown was caused by all that bad mortgage paper hitting at the same time. That has been directly attributed to the Democratically controlled Congress in Bush\'s last 2 years. Name Barney Frank ring a bell? Chris Dodd? Fannie Mae? THAT is the cause of the meltdown and Bush had nothing to do with that. He tried to block it. Even John McCain, Democrat lite, tried to head that one off. Out of Barney Frank\'s own mouth...it won\'t cause a meltdown and even if it did, the government is not going to bail them out. Ummm...WRONG, Barney. And who is still the chair of that committee? Why. Barney Frank. So please don\'t come here and defend Democrats and or Barack Obama. They circled the wagons and protected their own and at whose expense? Yours and mine. And did they take one it of responsibility like men? Nope. That is because they don\'t give a crap about you and me. That is the irony of it. You defend them while they sell you down the river and jump on the bash Bush bandwagon because you want to blame someone...too bad it is not the right someone. As to Barny Frank, there are videos on You Tube where you can hear the words right out of his mouth. Not that you would believe it, but the truth IS out there.

Yes, I have health insurance where I work and I do NOT make a lot of money and it is expensive. But I do NOT expect your or anyone else to pay for it for me. I don\'t have a lot of spending money after bills and a little into savings but that is my choice rather than expecting my fellow Americans to pay for my insurance. I am sure that there are a lot of people whose jobs cannot provide insurance. That is something else you can thank Obama for. He is choking small businesses to death. And small businesses are the major employers in this country. Why do think unemployment is still so high?

Tell me, what is better for you now that it was when Bush was President? Nothing. If you were not married now, still single and struggling, do you think your situation would be better now with Obama that it was when Bush was President? Honestly? I think not.

Those tax credits he is trying to get rid of are not just for \"the rich\" and are going to hit small businesses really hard. That is another reason why unemployment is still so high.

What you need to understand is that I am not a Republican. I am not a Democrat. I have been Independent for years. I don\'t give a darn about political parties. If John McCain was president right now I would be saying the exact same thing. Obama is not about fixing anything. He is about changing America all right. Changing us to a socialist country where all the power is concentrated at the top and the middle class disappears...i.e., socialism, where it is truly the \"haves\" and the \"have nots.\" Believe me, friend, you will be in the \"have nots.\" We all will. In a socialist country (Venezuela, Cuba, do some research) There is the government and the rich people that the government allows to be rich, and the rest of the people. No middle class.

I am sorry to tell you, it is the apathy of folks who buy the lie who end up helping people like that gain control. Thank GOD there are enough in this country who can see the handwriting on the wall that I think the power shift will change this election cycle, and in 2012 we can send that socialist administration back to where they came from.

And if it was John McCain, Sarah Palin, Barack Obama or Joe Blow from Kokimo driving us down that road to socialism, I would be voting to send him/HER back where THEY came from. Right now the socialist\'s name just happens to be Obama.

I believe if you would not personalize it to Bush and Obama and just do some independent research, like I did, you would come to the realization that what is happening now is not good for this country.

How did Sarah vote? - I can\'t remember

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Oh, that's right, governors don't vote. Your memory scares me. But, if you keep saying it long enough and loud enough, I bet there will be a bunch of tea party people who will believe you.
Um...I think we all knew what was meant by the post - see message
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Go ahead and pick it apart word for word. Am sure you might even find a comma or period out of place. When I posted it was 4:30 a.m., so I was a little tired.

Since you clearly don't understand the message, here is a simple explanation - She is a strong women and we know what bills she passed. She has been speaking to the public so we know how she would vote on issues because she talks about them and how she would vote (get it...how she would vote).

AGIA License bill signed August 27, 2008 -Natives of Alaska have dreamed of a pipeline for more than 30 years. Sarah Palin in less than two years got the bill passed

Energy Package signed August 25, 2008. -SB 4002 pays $1,200 to each resident who qualifies. The money for these payments comes from the state's natural resource revenue. This bill also suspends the state's tax on gasoline.

Administrative Order 242 signed August 20, 2008. -This order puts together a co-op of the Department of Natural Resources and the Department of Revenue to work with organizations who wish to commercialize Alaska's North Slope natural gas.

Those are just a few of the bills she passed.

I don't think the tea party members would hear me way out here in this corner of the states. Besides, at least the tea party members have enough sense to know what I meant when I posted.

My memory is just fine, but people who post like this is what scares me - especially because voting is coming up. If people can't even understand a simple post...eeeks.

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