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Posted: Apr 17, 2015

did she lie about her grandparents immigrating here from other countries, which was a lie, now it has been revealed that she once told Sir Edmund Hillary when she met him that her mother named her after him because he was such a hero climbing Mt Everest and all. Come to find out, he climbed MT. E 6 years after she was born. So then when she was confronted about this lie, she said, (paraphrasing) that her mother must have made it up because she admired Sir E H so much that she probably thought it would give Hillary the push she needed to achieve her own goals. She evej threw Mamma under the bus. She is a piece of work, that one. The lies just roll off her tongue. She isn't as adept as Obama, though. She gets confused over who she said what to. Fool

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Can't wait to see who the Republican nominee is - burtthecat

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and what we can find in his/her statements.

The sorting-out process of the current potential - candidates promises to be hilarious!

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Look at it this way. At least Repubs HAVE more than one - candidate.

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Despite what the talking heads are spewing on conservative propaganda media - sm

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Obviously, anyone who is conscious and breathing realizes that there is more than one Democratic individual that is contemplating running for the presidency. Obviously, quite a few of them have already announced that they are considering running for the presidency. So why in the world ConservAlinskys actually believe the right-wing propaganda that Democrats only have one candidate is an unfathomable mystery to liberals.

We understand the fact that ConservAlinskys have this tendency to believe everything they hear on right-wing propaganda media, and we get the fact that truth is not exactly what they are being told on quite a frequent basis. What liberals don't understand is why ConservAlinskys are so gullible to believe and repeat the obvious misinformation. Liberals wonder if ConservAlinskys actually believe the misinformation or if they maybe enjoy the happy delusion? We wish we could figure it out. Liberals are probably confused due to the fact that we'd generally rather be told the hard truth than be happily deluded with misinformation, but then we're not exactly ConservAlinskys who think in lockstep with other ConservAlinskys and RepubAlinskys.

Remember the election when several Fox News pundits had said that Mitt Romney would win in a landslide while the lamestream media was reporting exactly the opposite and that the polls showed Obama would easily win reelection? We DemAlinskys knew the right wingers were in for a big letdown based on the electoral college, and I think even many of them knew the truth, but too many of them just kept telling the viewers want they wanted to hear and kept them happily deluded about the actual truth coming. Liberals find this phenomenon puzzling. I guess even though the actual truth does have this way of finally making its way into the public consciousness, maybe the happy delusion is preferable to so many ConservAlinskys in the interim?

Regardless and obviously, Democrats have more than one candidate. Just because one of those candidates happens to poll so well with a majority of liberals that the other candidates are hesitant to challenge them does not automatically mean that there's only one candidate, despite the happy delusion from the right-wing media and the noise that passes for news.

There's a dose of reality for those who claim to be the party who values truth.

The Dems don't need more than one candidate. - Pub candidates are cartoon charaters..

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See inside for list of politicians who have not lied or twisted the truth. - sm

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1. I got no one.
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This liar meme is kind of useless when they are all doing it and have been since the inception of our country. Try going after a candidate on the issues instead of bashing them for something they've all done.

It's a losing argument. It's also hypocritical and short sighted and foolish, in my opinion, to suggest that one politician is a liar while the others are good and decent people of upstanding moral character who aren't lying or stretching the truth. Besides, this "Democrat bad" has not worked twice already, and I see the GOP just trying the trashing their opponent campaign again and not offering a debate on the issues. Pointing the finger at your opponent and calling them a "liar" is like pointing the finger at your opponent and calling them a "breather."

Conservatives: "Obama is a liar, vote Romney/Ryan! Take our country back."

Liberals: "Vote flippety-floppety and lyin' Ryan? Ummm, no!"

Every president we've ever had was a liar, and if you won't vote for a liar, then you won't be voting at all. I'm voting for the Democratic candidate liar over the GOP candidate liar every day of the week.

There's some reality for those who value the unvarnished truth.

This is all true, but the other ones are desperate - sm

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and her attitude is one of entitlement, and coronation!

Wasn't that true of Bush II as well? - And now Jeb?

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How can the GOP "offer a debate on the issues" - Truthhurts

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when Hillary won't even speak to reporters?

BTW, I guess you are ignoring the GOP candidates statements on the issues. I don't think that's a very good idea if you want to know what's happening in the world of politics to choose the right candidate for the 2016 presidency.

You have to be open minded and listen to ALL candidates. If you don't, it's positively a one party or the other voter.

I listened to all candidates in the 2008 campaign. Obama's ideas were good but then I wondered how he was going to PAY for those ideas to come to fruition. I also wondered how a Not-even-one-term Senator could go up the ladder so fast, so I started checking, listening, and watching as much as I could. Then I decided he wouldn't be good for the country, especially when he started with the redistributing the wealth. When I saw the unions backing him, that did it for me. The bullying of their members and assaults on others that took place made up my mind and I didn't want anything to do with that party.

Hillary announced her candidacy six (6) days ago, and three (3) days later - sm

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The right-wing propaganda machine began whining that she won't speak to reporters. Are we surprised to hear that rhetoric here? I'm sure I don't need to answer that.

You asked: "How can the GOP 'offer a debate on the issues' when Hillary won't even speak to reporters?"

Do you think speaking to reporters equals a debate on the issues? I sure don't. Hillary Clinton has been in the public eye for quite a while now, and her opinions on the issues have been on public view for decades now. I promise you she's for health care for Americans and has been for a quarter century now. I could go down the entire list, but Google is so much more expedient for anyone who cares to use it. If any of the candidates in the GOP circus tent are unaware of her stance on the issues by now, then I can only surmise that they're mentally challenged, intellectually detached, or severely delusional; not that it matters which one, being that I have absolutely no intention of voting for a single one of the so-called "conservatives" anyway since I live and breathe and pay attention on a daily basis, and I already know what each of them claims to stand for, how they've voted in the past, and what they are saying today versus what they've said before.

You said: "BTW, I guess you are ignoring the GOP candidates statements on the issues. I don't think that's a very good idea if you want to know what's happening in the world of politics to choose the right candidate for the 2016 presidency. You have to be open minded and listen to ALL candidates. If you don't, it's positively a one party or the other voter."

Oh, no. I don't have to be open minded; that ship has sailed long, long ago. Who these days is really open minded? I read your last paragraph, and I'm not sure how the "unions backing him" (Obama) in 2008 is any different than the majority of unions backing the Democratic Party candidate since before World War II. The unions' support of Democrats had been going on in America for well over a century by then, not like Obama instigated that or anything remotely of the sort.

BTW, what words in my post gave you the impression that I was "ignoring the GOP candidates statements on the issues"? I said they were liars and flip-floppers, didn't I? I'd say there's ample proof that I have been paying attention. Those of us who pay attention all the time find the presidential election to be merely the "show." As presidential candidates of any political party are acutely aware, for so many people in America, it's not really about "Election Day" or how smiling, convivial, and folksy the candidates seem to become toward the actual election season; it's about actual issues and belief systems and all those little things they've said and done already. How can I say this? Perhaps using the words from a Christmas tune I love so much: (see link)

The little gift you send on Christmas day
Will not bring back the friend you've turned away
So may I suggest the secret of Christmas
Is not the things you do at Christmas time
But the Christmas things you do all year through.

Some of us don't need the "big show" to know we're already donkeys. We didn't leave the GOP circus; the GOP circus left us. The more we watch the circus take a hard right into Crazy Town, the more we realize we made the right choice when we left for the relative tranquility of the farm. Paying attention to the mundane everyday minutiae before the "big show" is so much more revealing than the time when all the show elephants enter the center ring and start prancing around and doing tricks at the command of their masters. In the center ring, Scott Walker has just performed a flip-flop on immigration and landed toward the left ring, and ouch, it looked painful. That Walker is one elephant who appears out of his element doing the new routine; perhaps it'll get better with practice. In the left ring, Marco Rubio has done a complete 180 degree turn on his immigration platform and handled it in a much more smooth manner than the hapless Walker; perhaps it won't be so hard to lead that elephant back toward the center ring if he performs so well on the left, provided he avoids the snakes. Speaking of reptiles, one cruised into the tent early and has been laying quietly at the fringe with little fanfare.

This is getting interesting, and I got my popcorn ready. I may be a donkey looking in on my old friends, but it's not my first trip to the circus.

Too bad DemAlinsky's back such a liar. - Tells you all you need to know about them

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The name calling seems desperate. Tells you all you need to know. - sm

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We're all going to vote for a liar or we're going to sit at home and wish for some mythical human who has never told a lie to run for political office. Maybe if we all pray hard enough?

The conservative spin against the Democratic candidate has served them so well lately. Oh, wait! No it hasn't.

Reality bites...... in both directions. Spin that any way you wish.

Very much agree on both counts - Empirelady

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These posters who use "DemAlinsky and Hildabeast" sound like 12-year-old children. All they seem to be able to do is call names and make various wild claims, apparently thinking it makes them sound witty. I refuse to debate any issue with someone who can't even get beyond school yard taunts and name-calling. Just a tip, you sound more ignorant and back-water than you do clever when resorting to that kind of behavior. Grow up and learn how to debate properly.

I also agree that the majority of politicians lie. Heck, everyone lies, usually several times a day. The average person not maliciously, but we've had that conversation before. Politicians take it to another level, mainly because they are already bought and sold by large corporations who want to toss out issues guaranteed to inflame and get voters squabbling viciously among themselves to take the attention off the highway robbery taking place in that den of thieves called Washington D.C. Our government needs serious reform, and if all voters would begin there and clean out that mess, I believe other issues could be dealt with in a more compromising and mature fashion, which is the way a true democracy is intended to run.

Agree with you on every point. nm - VTMT

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DemAlinsky's cannot defend her endless lies. - So they start with the bullying and attacks

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Gotta feel sorry for the whole lot of them.

She does seem to be a compulsive liar! - Democrat

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That plus her being in bed with Wall Street are the main reasons she won't be getting my vote.

She may be in bed with Wall St., but I'll still - have to vote for her over - SMG

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some Republican candidate who bends over for Wall St. every hour of every day.

"Lesser of two evils", and all that good stuff.

This campaign - burtthecat

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is estimated to cost 2 billion dollars - 1 billion on each side. No matter who the candidates are, they are being bought and paid for by the super wealthy and will have to pay them back. This is the issue that should be at the top of our worry list. It keeps other potentially legitimate candidates from even trying to run and totally corrupts our system. We are losing our democracy and too many of us continue to worry about gay marriage, abortion, voter ID and the possibly illegal immigrant living next door.

She's supposed to be for every man, yet with all - her millions, she could not even

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give her server at Chipolte a tip or put anything in the tip jar.

So much for her lies about everyone "paying their fair share"...translated to mean, Hildabeast will keep her millions, and tell everyone else what she thinks THEY should pay.
She disgusts me.

...and just how do you know that? - sm

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Do you know how she paid, cash or credit card? Did you want her to look at the camera and say "look people, I am leaving a good tip for these people! Hooray for me!" How petty! I am sure she is a generous tipper.

The Chipotle manager said the Hildabeast did NOT tip. - Meow

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Google is your friend.

Who do you tip at a Chipotle? - It's self serve

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No tip jar at our Chipotles--3 of them within 5 mile radius.

I suppose she could have acted superior and just pulled someone aside and pressed a $10 in their hand--but wait, that sounds awfully Republican.

A plastic cup by the register with "TIPS" handwritten on it? - nm

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Do you tip at McDonald's? Same thing - Except they make more at Chipotle

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I am still expected to stand there and wait for my food, take it to my table, and clean up after myself afterward. Why am I tipping? I prefer to give my money to the homeless guy outside and let him buy something at Chipotle.

I went to Chipotle a couple of days ago - There was a blank metal container

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at the register--either for trash or ... oops I looked inside before throwing in trash and there were DOLLARS! No sign, no nothing, just a place to put your extra money I would suppose. Very attractive container.

Unfortunately, pseudo-scandals like this.. - sm

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will take attention away from real issues and scandals.

Is it just me that thinks the Chipolte manager...sm - VTMT

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was way out of line here? Would you ever go back to a restaurant where the manager, or anyone, made public how much you tipped? I think he should be paying more attention to his actual job of managing and less to what each customer is tipping! For goodness sake!

Unfortunately, - burtthecat

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I think the story is true. The same thing happened in her last campaign. When she was in Colorado NPR interviewed a waitress who served her party at a campaign stop. They left no tips. I don't expect her to take care of this personally, but someone in her entourage should. However, I don't think it affects her ability to govern and that is the issue.

Hildabeast's lies cannot be defended; so, you got - the usual huh, what? below

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Because DemAlinsky's have no truth on their side, Obama such an epic failure, they have to resort to their usual childish crap.

They cannot debate any issue with facts or truth; so the use the same old same old deflection, attacks, distortion, bullying comes after every post.

Is the OP telling the truth in the retelling of this 20-year-old story from 1995? - sm

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Source: The New York Times, 1995

For her part, Mrs. Clinton confessed that her mother, Dorothy Rodham, had read an article about the intrepid Edmund Hillary, a one-time beekeeper who had taken to mountain climbing, when she was pregnant with her daughter in 1947 and liked the name.

"It had two l's, which is how she thought she was supposed to spell Hillary," Mrs. Clinton told reporters after the brief meeting on the tarmac, minutes before her Air Force jet flew past the peak of Everest itself. "So when I was born, she called me Hillary, and she always told me it's because of Sir Edmund Hillary."

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She never told "Sir Edmund Hillary when she met him that her mother named her after him because he was such a hero climbing Mt Everest and all," although I don't doubt for one minute that they are reporting this on right-wing media propaganda television, radio, and the Internet.

So much for conservatives valuing truth. I think the reality is more like they will say whatever they have to and spin a story whichever way they want to in order to discredit anyone that gets in the way of their fantasy of making Barack Obama a 1-term president. Oh, wait! I meant to say taking back the White House at the expense of the actual truth.

Such a shame that conservatives are the only group - Truthhurts

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that are not allowed to drag up true stories about candidates.

When did the Dems make it a rule that they are the only ones that can drag up old stories? How did I miss that ruling?

Sorry, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Dems drag every GOP candidate through the mud even if the stories are NOT true, so get ready...2015 and 2016 are going to get really nasty.

There is no honesty in any campaign anymore. No truth in any ad. I think we should send all the political adults back to some sort of group therapy like AAA or NA. We could call it Political Truth or Consequences Anonymous or PTCA for short. :)

I predict there are going to be some really - muddy Repub in the next 18 months

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Where in my post did I say any of that? I totally disagree with that! - sm

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You said: "Such a shame that conservatives are the only group that are not allowed to drag up true stories about candidates. When did the Dems make it a rule that they are the only ones that can drag up old stories? How did I miss that ruling?"

I don't know! Perhaps you could let us all know when you find out since none of us have heard "that ruling," and I'd venture to say that all of us would totally disagree with it. Even if I did question the validity of the statement in the OP, I certainly never suggested anything like the words quoted above that you said in response to my post. You're asking questions as if I made statements that I never made, nor would I ever make.

I do, however, agree with you that there is little to "no" honesty left in politics, and quite obviously conservatives are capable of the same dishonesty and slinging of mud just like any of the candidates. Some of their best mud slinging is reserved for those in their own party who have diametrically opposed views to others within their very own GOP -- Republican Party and Tea Party mud slinging. Good times.

Why would "Dems make it a rule that they are the only ones that can drag up old stories" when we've got our popcorn ready and can't wait to see the mud fight in the circus tent?

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