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Time is growing short.

Posted: Sep 23, 2012

This November, please take the time to re-think your positions and be very sure you are really voting for the credentials of the man and not his personality. This country is so deeply in debt, about half of Americans are on some form of public assistance, one in six is in poverty. Our foreign policy is not working or nonexistent. We are falling, falling, falling off the world stage. We are going to be in the same situation as Greece before long. We need hope and change this time in a very big way, not just the failed promises of last time. I am choosing Romney because of his record of being able to turn things around. Because in my opinion a man who can give away a fortune and then make another one is pretty smart. He took no salary for his time as Governor and he is very rich, so I don't think he is in this for the perks and wealth. Let's try to leave this country better off than it is now for our children and grandchildren. Let's not allow our own shortsightedness to get in the way of what is best for generations to come.

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Time IS growing short - Mg

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And the more I know about Romney, the more I'm leaning toward Obama. This mess we're in isn't going to be fixed overnight. It will take many years, and I'm not forgetting the party who played a huge role in getting us in this shape in the first place. So yes, by all means, think. Any president that's handed a mess such as the one Obama received or, if he wins, the mess Romney will receive isn't going to be able to turn things around in just 4 years. I've stopped listening to the opinion-givers on both sides. I highly recommend it to anyone, and instead, do your own research. I want a president who doesn't consider 47% considered freeloaders who believe they're "entitled to food." That did it for me as far as Romney is concerned. I won't go back to the republican way. I did it once and regretted it. It won't happen again.

Evidently you have not stopped listening to opinion-givers - backwards typist

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on the one side or else you wouldn't used the 47% talking point to change your mind about Romney.

I think you should take your own advice and do your own research. Better yet, listen to the WHOLE secretly taped Romney episode in Florida.

On an aside, I sure hope they find the guy who did the taping. It's against the law in Florida to secretly tape someone. That's probably why Jimmy Carter IV is not talking. I think a little pressure on him might get him to talk.

Yeah, vote - for

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Romney if you want corporations to make huger profits with the tax breaks Romney wants to give them, claiming they will create more jobs. Though this may be true, the jobs will be created in other countries. Also, vote for Romney if you want our national parks drilled in and less regulations for companies so they can poison us more than they already do. It's kind of funny how the pubs on this site talk about Obama flip-flopping on his promises he made during his campaigning, when Romney even flip-flops on his campaign. Obama, as every other politician, made promises he cannot keep, though he has tried to do the best he can. The last time the pubs were in office (won't mention any names) the whole world hated us. Many complain about Obama trying to keep peace among other nations. I guess they feel it is better for everybody to hate us and go invade other countries for no reason. Yes, please think carefully about who you vote for.

Sorry, no can do. - Eight years of Repub

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"leadership" are at least 60% responsible (and that is being generous) for the financial mess the country is in now mostly caused by 2 endless and criminal wars and no way to pay for them. It took at least 8 years to mess up the economy; I'm willing to give it at least that long with new policies to get back on track

Whether you like the Affordable Care Act or not, that is a major problem that our president took on, a major issue completely ignored by the last administration. I'm not completely happy with it either (not enough in my opinion), and maybe it wasn't the best thing to focus on right out of the box, but at least it is a start.

I definitely do not want religious extremists providing input into policies of the country. They are free to pray and live however they want, I just don't want them messing with the government. Period.

Bottom line, is doubtful that Romney, although he might be as nice as pie, self-made (don't think that's completely true), great business man or whatever, thinking that he can wave a magic wand and "restore America to greatness" is simply delusional. It will take all of us working TOGETHER to accomplish that, and all the hysterical rhetoric on both sides pretty much accomplishes nothing.

Amen to that, sorry no can do! - no can do, either!

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When the republicans stated before President Obama was sworn in that they were going to make him a one-term president, when Rush was praying for him to fail, that sure doesn't make me want to vote republican. They care only about themselves or they would have tried to work with him to get out of the mess. Flame away.

Me either! - Sticky Fingers

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You would think after 4 years of complaining/hating Obama, repubs would have found some better candidates to run for president of the United States! I mean, Newt, Trump, Romney??!!

Get involved, the world is run by those who show up.

Oh pulllease. How many times do we have to tell you - sm

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Nobody hates Obama...period. What part of that don't you understand. What part of that don't liberals understand. For three years we've had to listen to the boo hoo you hate Obama. Jeepers people get a grip. Do liberals even realize how ignorant that sounds. Not calling you ignorant of course, I'm just stating that statement is getting so hmmmm, how shall we say it....yawwwwnnnnnn.

C'mon people, show you have a little sense. Show us that you don't listen solely to Matthews, Maddow, Olberman, and all those other ignorant commentators. Show us you really do know what the issues are.

You would think after 3 years of a failed policies people would smarten up. Nothing wrong with Romney's experiences. He knows how to turn get the economy back on the road. Romney and Ryan understand that people in America need to work, WANT to work. Romney and Ryan understand the importance of balancing a budget. Heck Romney and Ryan know the importance of even HAVING A BUDGET! The current Obama and Biden....that would be a big NO! and another no, and another no. They don't and they don't care and they don't even care that people know they don't. Hey, we don't have a budget, that's okay, lets just get the people to keep saying you're just mad cos a black man is in the office bull and the stupid ones will keep repeating it, while we pass only things that will benefit us. Heck, they are so stupid we'll tell them to their face that we have no plans to make the country better and they'll just keep repeating O-bama, O-bama, O-bama over and over again.

Please people,think. There are more people in this country than in your own pitiful lives. They don't deserve this. You all do for voting for it, but the rest of the country does not.

So please enough with the faux racist, you hate Obama, and all that other bull you keep dishing out. Time to put you big girl and boy panties, listen to the issues. When an employee of a company loses the company money, steals from it, etc that employee is fired.

Time now to let Romney/Ryan fix the mess Obama has made. Time to blame Bush was over a long time ago. This is now Obama's baby 100%.

How can you read the threads - on just THIS forum

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And say "nobody hates Obama"? It's so obvious there's no denying it. There are people here who would jump for joy if he dropped dead today. It's sad, it's misguided, and it's frankly disgusting.

"It's sad, it's misguided, and it's frankly disgusting."(direct LIb quote) - Describes the attacks on Repubs/Conservs

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Thanks for labeling me - When you don't even know me

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Just proves some people make a lot of noise based on assumption and not reality.

YOU chose the label - YOU own it - :"Just proves some people make a lot of noise

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"on assumption and not reality." Your posts through and through.

Okay, "Chris". Keep spouting your obvious hatred for anyone not for Obama - Truthhurts

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No one EVER stated they would jump for joy if he dropped dead today and that's disgusting that someone would even post that.

Opinions are opinions, but I think your post is a bit over the top.

OMG - Tell me you just did not write that - Trolling much?

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Here, let me make it simple for you since you are not getting it.

1. Nobody on this forum "hates" Obama. Post after post after post saying they don't like his philosophies. Not liking his policies is not the same thing as hating a man.

2. NOBODY here would "jump for joy if he dropped dead". NOBODY!!!! GET IT! NOBODY!!!

I am amazed at the stupidity of such statement and even worse people that actually can't think for themselves and believes that garbage.

Please, do yourself a favor, stop watching MSNBC. They are nothing but fear mongers spreading lies and hate.

C'mon people, stop hating conservatives so much that it shows you are brainwashed into believing that garbage written of absolute downright obvious lies.

Tell me one more time please - Sticky Fingers

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that you don't 'hate' this president. It is a strong word isn't it? I mean, after all he is an incredibly intelligent man, who happens to be your president, as well as mine, and certainly deserves a little bit of respect, doncha think?!

Same degree of respect that you all gave to Bush? - Check out those threads for disgusting insults

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and posters that thought it okay to say wghatever they wanted, no matter how vile. Bush was presidents, yours and mine, and certainly deserved respect dontcha think?

New to this thread - I don't hate Obama. I don't (sm) - Nonny Mouse:::

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trust him at all. Not one little bit - that is because of his past, his lies and cover-ups, not because of his color. As far as him being an incredibly intelligent man, I'm sorry, but no. I don't think he is. At this point, even his grades which are kept under lock and key were released, I wouldn't trust whoever kept them hidden. I don't think he is all that intelligent at all. Anyone who thinks a corpsman (basic English for a presumably intelligent man) is pronounced corpse man is not smart at all. In fact, I'd say he was kind of on the stupid side. But he can read, so he's good to go for the not so smart voters. Respect? Don't make me laugh. When he earns it, he'll get it. So far, all he has earned is my contempt.

Don't make me laugh! - Sticky Fingers

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Yet you trusted George Bush after he ignored the warnings of the attack on the towers, after he sat in the classroom reading the goat book, after he left folks in New Orleans to fend for themselves for 4 days w/o assistance, when he lied about WMD and started illegal wars he lied about and said would last a couple months and a couple million dollars, etc, and of course we are still in Vietghanistan!!!! Really?! Wasn't Obama a lawyer, a senator, and now president? Tell me how you accomplish all that before age 50 being "stupid"? What is your line of profession again? Laugh you say.

Peace

Will answer just one question - the rest is deflection to Bush. (sm) - Nonny Mouse:::

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The question: How do you accomplish all this before age 50 being "stupid?" Answer: Affirmative Action.

That's easy, that's easy, can I answer that please, please, please - (Raising hand)

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Did you ever see the movie "The Eraser" with Arnold Schwarzenegger. That movie showed very real life things. It's very very very very easy for people to create a whole life for someone.

Especially with a lot of $$ behind you. Now whose could it be? - Aunt Sue

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nm

Here let me put a little perspective on it for ya - sm

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1. No I don't hate the man. I don't agree with his policies. I don't agree with him giving bailouts. I don't agree with him enriching wall street. I don't agree with the wars he is continuing. I don't agree, I don't agree, I don't agree, I don't agree. Get it.

I don't hate him, I don't hate him. I don't know him personally so I don't hate him. There are people I know and I don't even hate them. I don't hate anyone. I don't hate, I don't hate, I don't hate.

There do you get it now. And while I am frustrated with having to repeat this I still don't hate you. I pity you. I feel sorry for you that you are so misguided. That you can't distinguish reality from what MSNBC tells you. Yes, I know its not your fault so I don't hate you for it. Brainwashing is usually not that persons fault. People can't help it if they have weak minds they allow themselves to be brainwashed. And you know I don't even hate the people who are doing the brainwashing. They lead sad pitiful lives.

Obama is not as intelligent as people who are brainwashing think he is. I've read enough to know about his background, so you need to drop the "oh he's so intelligent, my hero" routine.

No, he is not my president. He is your president. There are many people in this country that do not feel he is their president. A president is a great man who deserves the respect of being called a president. He has done nothing to deserve respect. Yes, it's a hard job. He has to make some tough decisions, but when you lie to the people of the country, cut them down to other countries, call the people not in his political party "the enemy", enrich your wall street buddies while ****ing on the American people and lie to the public, no he has not deserved the respect. He is just a man sitting in the seat until a real president comes and actually does something to help the people of the country. I don't care if the next person is white, black, of Asian descent, or even Hispanic (Hispanic would be nice as that is what I am), but to most people that doesn't matter. Don't even care if its a man or women either. Just someone who knows what they are doing (and I mean for good) But no, I don't hate any man. I actually feel sorry for him.

So once again, I do not hate him, never said I hate him, never read any posts here saying they hate the man. I do not hate anyone. Hate is not in my vocabulary or my nature. So, good for you he is your president. It's obvious you don't care about other people in this country. When a person sitting in the position of the president does something good for the country then they have earned that respect. Doncha think!!!

Romney versus Obama - me

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Obama's last 4 years have been a joke - every president always blames the one before and the one b4 that for his failures at the end of his term. How bout just rolling up your shirt sleeves and getting the job done? Obama is more concerned with making us a communist/socialist government and wanting to have fun being on television shows and being a celebrity. He does NOTHING for America, except try to make us #2 instead of #1, trying to "downsize America" - what president in his right mind does that? This one. No more Obama for me. If Mitt can keep his state solvent as governor, that is who I will cast my vote for. You Obama lovers are so blind with the rose-colored glasses - Obama is more concerned about illegal aliens and muslims that anything else - we are dropping to 3rd world country status. Do your homework on what he REALLY has (not) accomplished while in office, meaning Obama. Your children's future depends on it.

You did a great job of - Conservative

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Delineatng the last four years. I feel as you do. I do not want anyone representing me that wants to tear down America's greatness to raise up another country. Let other countries develop pride for themselves based on their accomplishments, not on the destruction of America. I am sick of Obama's lies, class warfare, financial warfare, and apologies for American successes. Maybe Obama has no pride in anything since Obama has never had to work for anything.

Makes me proud - Sticky Fingers

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When my fellow democrats can be honest and smart enough to admit that Obama has not been the perfect president. Obviously, no pres could 'fix' it all in 4 years, or even 8, but at least we can admit our dissatisfaction from time to time! I would like to hear one republican say "yeah, Bush screwed things up", or "yeah, Romney is not the best candidate".

Obama giving the go-ahead for stem cell research, which Bush would not, is huge, one of the first things he did. Also, the health care problem in this country, the richest country! That is huge, and I am not happy with his plan, but yes, it is a start. Something which has not been tackled by anyone that I can remember.

Separation of church and state has long since been written by our forefathers, and absolutely will not be tolerated by me for one, if indeed Mitt Romney were to try to run this country with any kind of religious mantra. I will be in the streets!

Somehow blue people seems more compassionate than red folks.....

Peace

Wrong on Stem Cell Research - backwards typist

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This is why Bush would not sign the Stem Cell Research:

There was an amendment called the Dickey-Wicker Amendment. Look it up.

Bush supported ADULT STEM CELL RESEARCH and supported federal legislation that finances adult stem cell research, but he did not support EMBRYONIC stem cell research. On August 9, 2001, he signed an executive order lifting the ban on federal funding for the 71 existing lines of stem cells.

The Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005 was vetoed by Bush because it would have allowed stem cell research on discarded human embryos and the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2007 was almost the same exact bill. Bush did not want HUMAN EMBRYOS to be used for research...but....

In 2009, they offered another one called Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2009 - Amends the Public Health Service Act to require the Secretary of Health and Human Services to conduct and support research that utilizes human embryonic stem cells, regardless of the date on which the stem cells were derived from a human embryo. Limits such research to stem cells that meet the following requirements: (1) the stem cells were derived from human embryos donated from in vitro fertilization clinics, were created for the purposes of fertility treatment, and were in excess of the needs of the individuals seeking such treatment; (2) prior to donation, it was determined that the embryos would never be implanted in a woman and would otherwise be discarded; and (3) the individuals seeking fertility treatment donated the embryos with written informed consent and received no financial or other inducements and I believe this is the one you're speaking about.

This is why Bush would not sign the Stem Cell Research:There was an amendment called the Dickey-Wicker Amendment. This amendment was signed BY CLINTON and prohibited the HHS from using funds for the creation of human embryos for research purposes or for research in which human embryos are destroyed.

In 2009, H.R. 873 and H.R. 4808, they offered another one called Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2009 that Amends the Public Health Service Act to require the Secretary of Health and Human Services to conduct and support research that utilizes human embryonic stem cells, regardless of the date on which the stem cells were derived from a human embryo. Limits such research to stem cells that meet the following requirements: (1) the stem cells were derived from human embryos donated from in vitro fertilization clinics, were created for the purposes of fertility treatment, and were in excess of the needs of the individuals seeking such treatment; (2) prior to donation, it was determined that the embryos would never be implanted in a woman and would otherwise be discarded; and (3) the individuals seeking fertility treatment donated the embryos with written informed consent and received no financial or other inducements and I believe this is the one you're speaking about.

I don't see where any of these 3 passed but in March 2009, Obama REVERSED President Bush's 2001 order barring the NIH from funding research on embryonic stem cells using 60 cell lines.

Sorry, I get carried away sometimes with looking things up....but it's better to know truth than fiction, don't you think?

Thank You - Sticky Fingers

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I knew it had something to do with the embryonic stem cells, which are apparently the most useful, valuable. Modern medicine, there is no stopping it :)

I think you're wrong about the stem cell thing. I don't (sm) - Texan

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think he approved this at all. He probably said something though, to make people THINK he had. He's really good at twisting things. If you think Romney would even attempt to run the country with his "religion", you're crazier than Obama's MIL. Anyway, why would you care. Obama runs it with his "defend the radical Muslims at all costs" religion. Blue seems more compassionate than red? LOL - maybe that's cause they luv spending other folks money. There, did that take care of the whole post? If I find out for sure about the stem cell thing, I'll get back to you.

Compassion? - Sticky Fingers

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I rest my case, after reading that post.
In my world, there is one race, and that is the human race. As for religion I say pray quietly, some of us are thinking.

Mitt may not be in it for the wealth - mbmt

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Mitt could, however, be in it for the power and celebrity and not because he cares about us.

Oh you mean like what's in there now. - nm

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nm

Sure, anybody COULD be. But Obama has already - proved that's why he's there.

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nm

Sounds like Obama through and through - ::LOLOL

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