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German Newspaper says Assad didn't order the attack

Posted: Sep 8, 2013

This is why the U.S. should wait. This is probably why most countries are not backing us, too. If this is true, then maybe Al Quada, the Taliban, or Hezbollah may have infiltrated the weaponry cache and used them knowing Assad would be blamed.

Syrian forces may have used gas without Assad's permission: paper

(Reuters) - Syrian government forces may have carried out a chemical weapons attack close to Damascus without the personal permission of President Bashar al-Assad, Germany's Bild am Sonntag paper reported on Sunday, citing German intelligence.

Syrian brigade and division commanders had been asking the Presidential Palace to allow them to use chemical weapons for the last four-and-a-half months, according to radio messages intercepted by German spies, but permission had always been denied, the paper said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/08/us-syria-crisis-germany-idUSBRE98707B20130908

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There's more to the story - can't believe everything we read

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But under the story are several comments that pretty much debunk the theory that it was anyone other than Assad. It could be true or it could be false. It's mind-boggling the speed at which information is changing in the media.

There are also the previous government uses of poison gas - against civilians in Syria...

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How about the video of the rebels who said they did it - not Assad

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Oh, but I guess you want to skip over that so Obama can have his war.

Okey, dokie.

If you don't like my link there are plenty of other links to prove Assad has nothing to do with it.

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2013/05/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-un-says-strong-and-concrete-suspicions-they-did-2446616.html

Or how about this. - sfh

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He didn't do it!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/08/syria-chemical-weapons-not-assad-bild

"But the intercepts tended to add weight to the claims of the Obama administration and Britain - that elements of the Assad regime,

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and not renegade rebel groups, were responsible for the attack in the suburb of Ghouta, Bild said."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/08/syria-chemical-weapons-not-assad-bild

This all sounds like - another

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Saddam Hussein witch hunt to me. O wants Assad out, so will do anything to make that happen...even spin the facts in his favor of opinion. Look out Assad, O is on the "hunt."

Really? Then why was the president so resistant - to direct intervention

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in Syria before the chemical weapons attack? Why did the US wait more than 1-1/2 years before sending material aid to the rebels? Why didn't he act the first time Assad used chemical weapons?

The only witch hunt going on here is the one we deal with on an hour-to-hour basis here on this forum....the Obama GOTCHA witch hunt.

ploy tactic - taking eyes off of him

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so it did not look like he was going to do this... same thing with Hussein before they went after him... all was acceptable at first. no difference.

Which rebels would that be? - You do realize that

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there is nothing the Johnny-come-lately Islamic groups would like more than to discredit their more secular FSA opposition counterparts (who outnumber them 3:1) don't you? Outside Islamic forces did not enter the conflict until around Summer 2012. Though they are better prepared for combat, they are also more aggressive and belligerant than FSA fighters..so much so that they now have turned on the FSA and even taken control of a couple of village strongholds previously held by FSA, who spent plenty of blood and treasure securing them from Assad.

BTW, where's the link to you're alleged video? Did it say just how the rebels put their hands on all that sarin? Where they got enough rockets to launch coordinated simultaneous attacks in NE Damacus? Why they decided to kill their own families and children instead of those who live in enemy neighborhoods?

Inquiring minds want to know.

May 5? "Before it's news, " indeed. Are we talking about the Aug. 21 attack - or what?

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From a source you'll probably appreciate:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/syrian-army-nerve-gas/2013/08/28/id/522694

Also:

http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2013/08/27-syria-nerve-gas-shachtman

That article is from 4 months ago. - :/

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No wonder it's called "Before it's news."

:) Good observation. - nm

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I think therein lies the problem. - ZvilleMT

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We'll never know for sure who did it, which really makes it that much more dangerous to go in. I don't know - I'm really split on this issue. On one hand, I think we should go in and help those people, plus we risk looking weak if we don't. On the other hand, we have no idea what we're getting in to, who we're siding with, or what the repercussions might be. It's really a lose-lose and how do you make that kind of decision?

I agree with your rationale or being split on this, but - sm

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I'm not sure that we can surmise that we'll never know for sure who did the chemical attacks.

Some members of congress who have seen the classified intelligence seem convinced that Assad is the culprit. I remember one of them saying (sorry can't cite, but I think was CNN interview) that he wishes he could tell the American people what they know. So maybe eventually we will know for sure who did it.

At any rate, I trust American intelligence 100 times more than any foreign news reporting agencies or Putin, all of whom have their own agendas in the global scheme of things, and easy for them to throw out lies and try to shamefully manipulate. It's just reckless, irresponsible, and dangerous.

American intelligence - Libby

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It was "American Intelligence" that gave us the War on Iraq, albeit at least time the US Administration is actually waiting for the report of the inspectors before they get involved in this.

I truly believe the phrase "American intelligence" is an oxymoron.

American Intelligence - sm

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The intelligence wasn't flawed, it was more or less ignored and manipulated to suit the Bush Administration's agenda.

It wasn't the intelligence that gave us the war, it was Bush and Company, the same comedy of errors that ignored intelligence that was right in front of their faces that allowed 9/11.

agree - nm

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You listen to the American people. Especially when (sm) - Tired of it all

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you've spent 5 years ignoring them.

Interesting phenomenon? - sm

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So... after 4 years of ignoring the people, they voted for him?

There was a good point to be made in this post. Too bad it turned into another jab against the POTUS.

You can't believe everything you hear either. - Especially when it's (sm)

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a propaganda campaign about to hit you in the face today.

no, that's not what Germany said - please read the article

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...MAY have carried out...
...COULD mean Assad...

"Members of the foreign affairs committee present at the briefing told Reuters Schindler had said that although the BND did not have absolute proof Assad's government was responsible, it had much evidence to suggest it was."

"Germany, along with the European Union, blames the Syrian government for the attack but urged waiting for a report from U.N. weapons inspectors before any U.S.-led military response."

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