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Georgia--No ACA, no emergency room care


Posted: Mar 1, 2014

Talk about getting what you vote for. Move out of Georgia if you can. . . **** Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal (R) has a problem: rural hospitals keep closing, overwhelmed by financial troubles they can’t solve on their own. The obvious solution – accepting Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act – is the one thing Deal refuses to even consider. There is no great mystery here as to why the rural hospitals can’t keep their doors open. These facilities have routinely covered low-income Georgians who don’t have insurance, leading to facilities that can’t pay their bills. Medicaid expansion would “help rural hospitals by turning many of their uninsured patients into paying patients,” but the governor and GOP state policymakers won’t budge. But don’t worry, Deal is ready to think outside the box. Gov. Nathan Deal has often called on Congress to reconsider the Affordable Care Act. But on Monday evening, he pushed his former Washington colleagues to revisit a separate health care law that fewer politicians openly critique. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act is a 1986 law that requires hospitals to provide emergency health care treatment to anyone who needs it, regardless of citizenship or their ability to pay. It’s provided life-saving care to countless people, but it’s also strained hospital resources and turned emergency rooms into the first stop, instead of a last resort, for some. “If they really want to get serious about lowering the cost of health care in this country, [federal policymakers] would revisit another federal statute that has been there for a long time,” Deal told a crowd of dozens at a University of Georgia political science alumni gathering. Let this one roll around in your mind for a moment. Uninsured Georgians in rural parts of the state have shown up for medical care at emergency rooms that can’t turn them away. The hospitals provide care, as required by law, but the financial strain ultimately proves to be too great a burden for some facilities. Deal’s solution isn’t to extend coverage to struggling families, thereby creating paying health care consumers for the hospitals; Deal’s solution is to make it easier for the hospitals to deny care to the struggling families. . . . To be sure, I should emphasize that as a matter of hospital financing, Deal’s argument is not without merit – if medical facilities were able to simply deny care to the uninsured, those hospitals would definitely save lots of money. But on the other hand, people would die from treatable ailments, paying with their life because they had the nerve to be poor. Let’s also note that prominent Republicans have spent the last few years arguing that the uninsured rate in the United States – even before “Obamacare” – is actually 0%. Why? Because Americans can always seek medical attention at the emergency room. Georgia’s Deal: Tighten ER access 02/26/14 12:46 PM By Steve Benen http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/georgias-deal-tighten-er-access?cid=eml_mra_20140226 ;

Mostly everything in America is capitalistic - mmb

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in nature.

However, something as important as continuing to BREATHE should NOT be a profit-driven endeavor.

I would prefer a single payer program, similar to Medicare, and that's what President Obama wanted, as well, but the Republicans, as usual, refused to cooperate with him, so HE compromised.

I can't think of anything the Republicans ever compromised with the President on.

You need to research further, pretty clear - you have no idea the problems

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countries with single pay systems are going through, or maybe don't care.

O compromises on nothing; so, not sure what country you may be writing from, but sure does not read like t USA.

You should read up on Germany's universal healthcare. - nm

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So should you - >>>
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EVERYTHING in America is 'capitalistic' - and only laws make a difference

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I absolutely HATE all the legislation we have but if we did not have it, capitalists would have us back to child labor, in totally slave-like conditions.

If you don't believe THAT take a look at the laws enacted to FORCE capitalists (business) to treat their fellow human being with decency.

While I agree with some things, - Another mmb

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I definitely do not agree with a single payer program. I don't understand why people want the government involved in so many facets of their lives. I sure don't. (And I hope people know which mmb I am. I also have a friend with the same initials, but I KNOW you are NOT her.)

Just Ms. Maddow blowing smoke as usual. - Read up - (sm)

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Most Georgians don't want Ocrapcare.
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Notice how the ACTUAL TRUTH is left out of these - posts...thanks for bringing truth back

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to the board. Seems there is a very sorry, misguided attempt on this to try justify the mess Obamacare has made of the medical care in this country. The convoluted posts always leave out the
6-million plus that lost their insurance, now paying massive increases in premiums, deductibles and out of pocket expenses before 1 penny of insurance kicks in; with approximatley another 10-million to be added to those getting kicked off in the fall.

Notice how all those little facts (and so many more) conveniently escape the truth challenged?

Yes, I have noticed that. No one mentions the 6 million. (sm) - Abby

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6 million liars, I guess. Let's ask Harry. Really, that man ought to be run out of town on a rail.
Not to mention the recent 65% increase in insurance - premiums for small business because of Obama
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and the cuts to the health benefits for our military (that protects the free speech rights for Reid and all other truth-challenged posters) regarding the corruption and damage of Obamacare. Or the felony convicted "navigators" for Obamacare having access to ALL your personal information; in our state those included criminals convicted for identify theft, child abuse, violent sexual offenders, rapists, murders, some still incarcerated...sick to your stomach yet? Too bad those navigators cannot be limited to access of all personal information of those thinking Obamacare is wonderful.

I just found out from my insurance carrier Friday, that even though I pay a HUGE increase in premiums, contracted a private company in compliance with the law, take no subsidies, refuse to have anything to do with Obamacare, take no government handouts, ALL OF MY PERSONAL INFORMATION IS BEING PROVIDED TO THE OBAMACARE DATABASE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, FOR "REVIEW" BY ANY AGENCY THAT WANTS IT - SO MUCH FOR HIPAA. That includes, but not limited to, ALL of my financial information, tax information, health information for no purpose other than for control. No longer do I believe Hitler committed suicide in a bunker...he is alive and well and lives in the White House.
OMG, I guess I just didn't realize (duh) that he would get his (sm) - Unbelievable
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slimy little hands on all our information whether we enroll in the Commie plan or not. I should have, but I didn't. He wants control over every aspect of our lives. This is no longer the U.S. of A I grew up in. Little by little step by step, it's going away, being fundamentally transformed. People are just so ignorant, to vote him in twice. Stupid, stupid people.
I wish you would send your post to the media. - sm
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You have very eloquently painted a picture of an utter nightmare. So many Americans remain completely ignorant of what is happening to themselves and their families. I'm very serious. Your post is very well written, concise and acutely to the point. Please send it to the media, preferably FNC.

On a side note, I went through the preliminary motions to find out what I would pay or not pay if I were on Obamacare. Because I have had such a pay cut like most of us as well as other factors, I would qualify for a substantial subsidy. But here's the kicker: I wouldn't want it. Why? Primarily because I know someone else is paying for it and that is NOT fair. I am not a selfish taker. I will not sit idly by and feel good about what I can take from the government when I see what my taking has done to so many, i.e., the 6 million liars.

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