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FISA Amendment Act of 2008


Posted: Jun 8, 2013

I will emphasize some sentences/parts of sentences so no one can mistake the meaning of this report: This amendment was supposed to "sunset" at the END OF 2012. They voted to extend it in Dec. 2012 for another 5 years WITH NO CHANGES from the 2008 amendment. 

Please note that the FISA Amendment of 2008 and the very FIRST bill did not allow warrantless searches, nor did they allow for the unlawful searches of all persons inside the U.S., only those who contacted, or were contacted, by persons outside the U.S. in countries known for terrorism. They had to get a warrant to obtain the data.

What is happening now is the government has decided to skirt the law to suit themselves by using PRISM.

 

The FISA Amendments Act of 2008 provides critically important authority for the U.S. Intelligence Community to acquire foreign intelligence information

The FISA Amendments Act of 2008 provides critically important authority for the U.S. Intelligence Community to acquire foreign intelligence information by targeting foreign persons reasonably believed to be outside the United States. It ensures that the Intelligence Community has the flexibility and agility it needs to identify and respond to terrorist and other foreign threats to our security.

Consistent with current FISA, the Act provides a key role for each branch of Government. It assigns responsibilities jointly to the Attorney General (AG) and the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) to ensure that the Nation's chief law enforcement and intelligence officials work together in collecting foreign intelligence in accordance with the law. It requires the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA Court) to review and approve, or order modifications to, the procedures required by the Act and to ensure that those procedures are consistent with the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. And it requires that information about the implementation of these new procedures be reported to Congress, to ensure that Congress can fulfill its oversight role.

PRIVACY AND CIVIL LIBERTY PROTECTIONS FOR AMERICANS

Exclusivity. The Act reiterates the exclusive means provision from the 1978 FISA statute and requires express statutory authorization for electronic surveillance conducted outside of FISA and specific chapters of Title 18, United States Code.

Targeting Procedures. The targeting procedures are designed to ensure that only persons reasonably believed to be outside the United States will be targeted under these authorities. At least annually, the AG and DNI must submit to the FISA Court for review and approval targeting procedures for making that fundamental determination.

Minimization Procedures. Under FISA and Title 18, law enforcement and the Intelligence Community use minimization procedures to protect innocent conversations of Americans. Similarly in this Act, minimization procedures are instrumental in ensuring that information that is acquired about Americans, in the course of targeting foreigners, is used only for proper intelligence or law enforcement purposes. These procedures must be reviewed and approved at least annually by the FISA Court.

Individual Judicial Orders for Surveillance of Americans. The Act requires individual FISA Court orders based on probable cause for targeting Americans, not only when they are inside the U.S. but also, for the first time, when they are outside of the United States.

Read the rest here:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121391360949290049.html

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You wrote: - sm

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"They voted to extend it in Dec. 2012 for another 5 years WITH NO CHANGES from the 2008 amendment."

The "they" you are referring to is the most obstructive Congress in the history of this nation. They are republicans, and they wanted this. This perhaps is the ONLY thing the republicans actually accomplished in 2012. I certainly can't recall them actually DOING anything else, except but to look for reasons to impeach the President, even if they have to invent "scandals" that don't amount to a hill of beans.

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Please note that the FISA Amendment of 2008 and the very FIRST bill did not allow warrantless searches, nor did they allow for the unlawful searches of all persons inside the U.S., only those who contacted, or were contacted, by persons outside the U.S. in countries known for terrorism. They had to get a warrant to obtain the data.

It's irrelevant what "they" allowed or didn't allow. Bush broke the law and performed warrantless wiretaps on Americans on a regular basis.

What is happening now is the government has decided to skirt the law to suit themselves by using PRISM.

Do you think we should bring George W. Bush back before Congress to testify to ALL the laws that he broke while President?

I do, but he's got his rich republican buddies running the House, and he will NEVER tell the truth about anything, including the illegal/immoral/unreasoned invasion, bombing and occupation of Iraq, to kill the very same person that America INVENTED and PLACED as the leader of Iraq.

Essentially, nothing new is happening. Obama is doing the same thing that Bush got away with, and he apparently avoided at least one terror attack by doing so. If they want to listen in on MY phone conversations or check MY emails, etc., I'm happy to bore them to death. I just don't want America to be attacked again.

I really don't care either way. I have nothing to hide, and I routinely answer the phone, "Good morning/afternoon, Federal Government. How's your day going?"

I predict that a "terra attack" will happen to this country before Election Day 2014. Whether it's accomplished by using the weapons that John McCain wants to give to al Qaeda members in Syria or whether it's a false flag remains to be seen.

From the link below, which I would strongly suggest you read:

"Published on Thursday, May 30, 2013 by The Guardian

Obama's New FBI Chief Approved Bush's NSA Warrantless Wiretapping Scheme

James Comey becomes just the latest symbol of the Obama legacy: normalizing what was very recently viewed as radical

by Glenn Greenwald

James Comey, Deputy Attorney General under President Bush, is reported to be President Obama's pick to lead the FBI.

One of the biggest scandals of the Bush administration (which is really saying something) began on December 16, 2005. That was when the New York Times' James Risen and Eric Lichtblau were finally allowed to reveal what they had learned more than a year earlier: namely, that President Bush, in 2002, had ordered the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on the electronic communications of US citizens without first obtaining warrants from the FISA court as required by 30-year-old criminal law. For the next three years, they reported, the NSA "monitored the international telephone calls and international e-mail messages of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people inside the United States without warrants." The two NYT reporters won the Pulitzer Prize for that story."

Please click on link for remainder of story.

You wrote: Invent scandals. Popped out of the page at me. - I'm LMBO.

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I actually put quotation marks around the word "scandal," - sm

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given that none of these constant allegations were "scandals."

The Rs just want to lynch this President. That's all there is to it.
I don't think you're allowed to use that word. - nm
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ROFLMBO!!! - nm
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What don't you understand about warrants and probable cause? - Truthhurts

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This is a very long post because it involves the real law, so if you aren't willing to read it and comment, then don't, but don't give me any crap about "it's Bush's fault." Okay?

BTW, I glanced fleetingly at an article by James Clapper in a newspaper.(sorry, can't find it now) something about he doesn't think this Prism thing is a good idea. I need to find it for sure...

The FISA agreements HAD to have WARRANTS issued before grabbing private records with PROBABLE CAUSE.

What you don't seem to understand is that Bush couldn't ORDER anything. It had to go through CONGRESS (there's that nasty word again). Congress voted on it in, just like Congress voted to go to war with Iraq and Afghanistan.

The 2008 and 2012 FISA law was not changed...in other words, WARRANTS and PROBABLE CAUSE WERE STILL NEEDED and had to have APPROVAL of DNI and CONGRESS.

See text of law:
(b) Limitations- An acquisition authorized under subsection (a)--
`(1) may not intentionally target any person known at the time of acquisition to be located in the United States;
`(2) may not intentionally target a person reasonably believed to be outside the United States if the purpose of such acquisition is to target for surveillance a particular, known person reasonably believed to be in the United States, except in accordance with title I; and
`(3) shall be conducted in a manner consistent with the fourth amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
`(c) United States Persons Located Outside the United States-
`(1) ACQUISITION INSIDE THE UNITED STATES OF UNITED STATES PERSONS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES- An acquisition authorized by subsection (a) that occurs inside the United States may not target a United States person except in accordance with the provisions of title I.
`(2) ACQUISITION OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES OF UNITED STATES PERSONS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES- An acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device outside the United States may not intentionally target a United States person reasonably believed to be outside the United States to acquire the contents of a wire or radio communication sent by or intended to be received by that United States person under circumstances in which a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and a warrant would be required for law enforcement purposes if the technique were used inside the United States unless--
`(A) the Attorney General or the Attorney General's designee submits an application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that includes a statement of the facts and circumstances relied upon by the applicant to justify the Attorney General's belief that the target of the acquisition is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; and
`(B) the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court--
`(i) finds on the basis of the facts submitted by the applicant there is probable cause to believe that the target of the electronic surveillance is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; and
`(ii) issues an ex parte order as requested or as modified approving the targeting of that United States person.

Do you see anything in the above paragraphs that state this administration has approval to search ANY U.S. citizen unless contacts or is contacted by, someone OUTSIDE the U.S.?

The PRISM program was the way around warrants and probable cause. Whose idea was that? Huh? Wasn't Bush because he wasn't in office.

What is happening now is the AG is skirting the law by going through PRISM so he doesn't have to obtain warrants or give probable cause to NDI. IN OTHER WORDS, Holder is behind this crap AGAIN.

The Guardian's headlines that you conveniently posted for me to read on "Bush's NSA Warrantless Wiretapping Scheme" won't be read because I read the law. Now, if you want to read the law and point out where warrantless wiretapping was approved, I'd gladly apologize but in 2002, the law stated in
SEC. 302. RESTRICTION ON CONDUCT OF INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES.

The authorization of appropriations by this Act shall not be deemed to constitute authority for the conduct of any intelligence activity which is not otherwise authorized by the Constitution or the laws of the United States; and

SEC. 310. REVIEW OF PROTECTIONS AGAINST THE UNAUTHORIZED DISCLOSURE OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.

(a) REQUIREMENT- The Attorney General shall, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, Secretary of Energy, Director of Central Intelligence, and heads of such other departments, agencies, and entities of the United States Government as the Attorney General considers appropriate, carry out a comprehensive review of current protections against the unauthorized disclosure of classified information, including--
(1) any mechanisms available under civil or criminal law, or under regulation, to detect the unauthorized disclosure of such information; and

(2) any sanctions available under civil or criminal law, or under regulation, to deter and punish the unauthorized disclosure of such information.

(b) PARTICULAR CONSIDERATIONS- In carrying out the review required by subsection (a), the Attorney General shall consider, in particular--

(1) whether the administrative regulations and practices of the intelligence community are adequate, in light of the particular requirements of the intelligence community, to protect against the unauthorized disclosure of classified information; and

(2) whether recent developments in technology, and anticipated developments in technology, necessitate particular modifications of current protections against the unauthorized disclosure of classified information in order to further protect against the unauthorized disclosure of such information.




I understand it perfectly, and apparently so do you. - sm

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And I'm sure we both would follow the law.

Now, what DON'T you understand about BUSH BROKE THE LAW AND DIDN'T BOTHER WITH WARRANTS???!! That is how we got the "standard" that it is today. I provided you with a link, which you apparently did not read, while admonishing me to read your entire post, which I did.

Bush broke the law many, many times with many, many lies.

And you think OBAMA is bad??? He is at least trying to keep us safe, but I think the republicans will ruin that with a false flag attack, and I'm as serious as a heart attack when I say that.

To again give the "impression" that they're the only ones who can protect Americans and to prove that Obama can't, given their current and future desperation for having done NOTHING in the years of Obama's presidency, their morals, consciences and claims to be "Christians," know no bounds.
Gee, from the research I've done so far, I see nothing - Truthhurts
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implicating Bush in warrantless searches so far.

I read the article and no matter what it says, it does not give the EO that President Bush supposedly ordered (see paragraph below) and I have been slowly searching any order signed in 2002. So far I’ve had no luck finding the one alluded to in the Risen/Lichtblau article:
"Under a presidential order signed in 2002, the intelligence agency has monitored the international telephone calls and international e-mail messages of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people inside the United States without warrants over the past three years in an effort to track possible "dirty numbers" linked to Al Qaeda, the officials said. The agency, they said, still seeks warrants to monitor entirely domestic communications."

In reading the whole article, these paragraphs, in particular, stood out:

"Since 2002, the agency has been conducting some warrantless eavesdropping on people in the United States who are linked, even if indirectly, to suspected terrorists through the chain of phone numbers and e-mail addresses, according to several officials who know of the operation. Under the special program, the agency monitors their international communications, the officials said. The agency, for example, can target phone calls from someone in New York to someone in Afghanistan.

Warrants are still required for eavesdropping on entirely domestic-to-domestic communications, those officials say, meaning that calls from that New Yorker to someone in California could not be monitored without first going to the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Court.

So why, then, was there no accountability for this systematic illegal spying? That happened for two reasons. First, both the Bush DOJ and then the Obama DOJ successfully convinced obsequious federal courts that the eavesdropping program was so secretive that national security would be harmed if courts were to adjudicate its legality - in other words, top government officials should be placed above and beyond the rule of law because doing so is necessary to Keep Us Safe™.

Second, the Bush DOJ's most senior lawyers - Attorney General John Ashcroft, Deputy Attorney General James Comey and OLC chief Jack Goldsmith - approved a legal memorandum in 2004 endorsing radical executive power theories and warped statutory interpretations, concluding that the Bush NSA warrantless eavesdropping program was legal, thus making it more difficult to prosecute the Bush officials who ordered it (even if the Obama DOJ were inclined to prosecute, which they were not).

It was announced yesterday that this very same James Comey - who as Bush's Deputy Attorney General authorized the once-very-controversial, patently illegal Bush NSA eavesdropping program - is President Obama's choice to be the new Director of the FBI.

Comey was one of the Bush DOJ lawyers who, along with Ashcroft, Goldsmith, and FBI Director Robert Mueller, had threatened to resign if Bush did not modify the NSA program in order to make it legal in Comey's eyes, and he then went to the hospital where Ashcroft was quite ill to prevent then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and then-White House chief of staff Andy Card from bullying the infirm and barely cogent Attorney General into signing off on the legality of the NSA program.

But whatever else was true, he was the lawyer who legally approved that warrantless NSA program that the New York Times revealed that caused so much scandal. And he was part of the process that legalized the torture techniques used by the Bush administration. How can that possibly not disqualify him from running the FBI in the eyes of progressives who claimed to find all of that so atrocious and such an assault on all that is dear and good in the world?

But this is exactly where the Obama administration has taken us."
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So, if progressives and liberals are so outraged, why aren’t they loudly protesting Obama’s choice for Director of the FBI? Why aren’t they so outraged like they were in 2002? Who was the AG under Bush?

Obama may STATE [in press conferences] that he’s against what the NSA, FBI, and other agencies are doing, but then he does the DIRECT OPPOSITE. Does he not understand what he’s talking about? Does he think speaking against these programs means he’s for these programs? Makes no sense.
Thank you for AGAIN posting the truth - Most Libs are foreigners when it comes to truth
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Well, I'm not outraged about it, and I wasn't - sm
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outraged about it when Bush did it. It SHOULD be secret so that our enemies won't know about it, for crying out loud!!

I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER 9/11 HAPPEN ON AMERICAN SOIL!!!

Do you?

Thank you for bringing TRUTH to the board - and ignoring the democrat's talking points

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Amazing how far Libs will twist truth to appease their little minds. When do you think they will ever wake up and realize that all that Obama does is done to them, too? One poll stated that 100% feel Obama crossed the line and is lying...that inlcudes Libs. Guess the Libs ideologues on this board did not get their notes from Prez Valerie Jarrett yet as to what they are supposed to say this week.
LOL!! - A Lib (nm)
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Wow! I missed those "talking points." Would you - A Lib sm
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please be kind enough to provide the link where you found them?

I eagerly await your response with the link.

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