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Countdown to self-destruct just got shorter. GOPgrinch's sweeping poor stereotypes
Posted: Dec 2, 2011
All children, not just those from disadvantaged neighborhoods, benefit from early good work ethics orientation, no argument there. How to achieve that is another matter entirely. Candidate G-man's utterly clueless characterization of poor household parents and preposterous after-school janitoring program proposal exposes an off-the-chart, out-of-touch mindset of astronomical dimensions. The hubris is positively breathtaking.
I am officially begging all republicans to eliminate their reviled former frontrunner from active consideration and put all your energy and funding behind the Neutron. Pretty-, pretty-, pretty-please with sugar, honey and chocolate frosting on the top!
GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said Thursday that “really poor children” have bad work habits and no knowledge of how to make an income “unless it’s illegal.”
Doubling down on his argument that children in poor neighborhoods should be employed as janitors in schools, Gingrich argued that the best way to teach children in poor neighborhoods good working habits is to put them to work as soon as possible.
“Start with the following two facts,” Gingrich said Thursday at a campaign stop in Iowa.
“Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works, so they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday,” Gingrich said.
“They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash’ unless it’s illegal.”
Gingrich said every successful person he knows started working at an early age in explaining his position that schools should hire poor children in their neighborhoods for part-time jobs as assistant librarians or assistant janitors.
“I come around to this question,” he said. “You have a very poor neighborhood. You have kids who are required under law to go to school. They have no money. They have no habit of work. What if you paid them part-time in the afternoon to sit at the clerical office and greet people when they come in? What if you paid them to work as the assistant librarian?”
“What if they became assistant janitors and their job was to mop the floor and clean the bathroom?” Gingrich added.
Gingrich has skyrocketed to the top of national polls, but many Republicans wonder if he’ll self-destruct under the spotlight of the campaign. A former House colleague of Gingrich, noting his penchant for controversial statements, told The Hill this week that Gingrich’s hand is always “six inches from the self-destruct button.”
“This is something that no liberal wants to deal with,” Gingrich said at the time. “Core policies of protecting unionization and bureaucratization against children in the poorest neighborhoods, crippling them by putting them in schools that fail has done more to create income inequality in the United States than any other single policy.
“It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid.”
If Newt wins, then Americans have very short - memories. nm
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Newt would still be 100 times better than Obama. - How can anyone defend Obama at this point?!!!! nm
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I am worried about our children's future; they will need good servants - nm - Warbucks
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O doesn't need defending with this crop of circus side show players - as his only opposition.
[ In Reply To ..]At this rate, all he has to do is keep breathing to get re-elected. The GOP primary is in a shambles, in case you haven't noticed. The wingnut factions can't get behind their own once stable frontrunner (the mannequin man and his muliple split personas and alter egos) and have done nothing but flit from one twit to the next during the entire debate debaucle. Perhaps the most amusing recent development is the herd's abrupt mass exodus away from the fanny-pinching, philandering philanthropist and his "alleged" 13-year "we're-just-friends" affair and their stampede toward the two-time two-timer who shops/swaps wives by cheating with the new candidate while still married to the old one.
Their leadership crisis seems to have disoriented and confused them to such an extent that the mob hysteria it has produced far surpasses anything we witnessed on Black Friday 2011. Maybe a healthy dose of that harmless diluted capsaicin food product at point-blank range, a couple of concrete body slams and an extra large roll of plastic garbage-tie handcuffs would do some good and restore a little order and decorum. Lord knows, they could use all the help they can get.
Problem is, Obama is no leader. He still prefers - being "present" to leading...needs to go
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Problem is GOP has not learned its lessons from 2008 - Smear campaigns lose elections
[ In Reply To ..]especially in the absence of any viable opposition candidate, coherent party platform or slightest hint of a plan. If this primary is any indication, the GOP cannot even articulate its identity within its own ranks and they have nothing to offer the mainstream electorate other than utter chaos. Jerry Springer could do a better job than these clowns. This primary has been one national embarrassment after another. I hear the Donald is moderating yet nother useless debate before bestowing his approval on the annoited one. What a joke. Running the country is not some low-brow reality TV gig where leaders emerge amid the settling dust after the pack's alpha male kicks everyone off the island. Get a clue.
Excellent, excellent post! Bravo!! Thank you. - nm
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Open your eyes! Dems CONSTANTLY use smear - campaigns to win with help of media! nm
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But the Republicans use Diebold hackers to miscount - votes. nm
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How can anyone defend Obama? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Obama has gotten our troops out of Iraq and is working on getting them out of Afghanistan.
Obama was just on TV the other day talking about a brand new program that will produce a lot of jobs, especially for contractors that have been out of work. He reached out to the private sector, and some large companies and a few hospitals signed on because it is a green program and will lower their energy bills a LOT.
Obama had a jobs bill before Congress, but, as usual, the Republicans would not cooperate, putting party first instead of this country.
I'm amazed that Obama has accomplished ANYTHING, considering that before he was even sworn in, the Republicans were saying that the only thing they cared about was making Obama a one-term President, and their actions from then on have confirmed that.
Newt would have 9-year-olds cleaning toilets in schools and thinks child labor laws are "very stupid." I can see where this is going regarding the caste system that has formed in this country. The Republicans' interests simply do not lie with regular Americans, only the richest of the rich. Newt certainly is almost the moral equivalent of Bill Clinton. I say almost because Clinton never visited his wife's death bed, asking for a divorce.
He has since flip-flopped (just like the other Republican hopefuls) all the over place. The only thing he has that is strong is his ego.
Oh, please. Obama has failed on every level. Defending - him is impossible.. You make me laugh
[ In Reply To ..]out loud with the "Obama jobs bill". That is STIMULUS 2. He got the first one through, and how did that work out? Tons more debt and high unemployment. Obama has never run anything. He is horribly unqualified to be president. A big mistake was made by the USA. Oh, and that Newt "wife's death bed" story was a total lie. She is still alive years and years later.
And if we have another 4 years then also - Americans have very short memories
[ In Reply To ..]I'm not sure whether or not I like Newt. I like him better than Romney or Perry or Cain or Bachman. I like him better than anyone I've seen in the democrat party. Except Kucinich. I like him. I hope he runs again.
So why do you think if Newt wins Americans have very short memories? Please note facts, not rumors. Because all I know is if people vote in the same then Americans DO have very short memories.
Because he had a problem with ethics when he was - sm
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It's neither fact nor rumor. It's simply history.
All lower class should work in the public school cafeteria! - Obama's Fault!
[ In Reply To ..]I think any child attending public school should have to work a quarter or two in the cafeteria to prepare them for their future at McDonalds!
Yours truly,
1%
Good idea...moving in the right - direction
[ In Reply To ..]Kids doing cafeteria work is an awesome way to kick their parents off any assistance (no food stamps for you when you have an able-bodied CHILD at home), but if we have cafeterias and poor kids working in 'em, how can we achieve the dream of doing away with school lunch programs altogether??
I say get rid of the school cafeterias and just have McDonald's move in the schools and have the kids work there. Train 'em young as future employees and feed 'em junk so they become life-long consumers of the product.
Yours truly,
Ronald McDonald, 1%er
Duh! That's why we call you "The Big Ron"! - Tip o' the hat to you! nm
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We're tired of that clown gettin' credit for havin' - all the good ideas
[ In Reply To ..]Not to say Big Ron isn't successful. That's evident on our kids ever-expanding waistlines and rising blood sugar, blood pressure, and cholesterol levels, but we've got some fantastic ideas on how to revamp the Home Ec. departments in the public schools and get these poor kids to work. Now, you know these kids are lazy (just like their parents) and their overseas counterparts are far outshowing them when it comes to sewing skills, so let's get 'em in there and have 'em start making some clothes and shoes. Heck, since these are public schools, maybe we can even have the taxpayers pick up the tab for the sewing machines! Teach these little slackers some work ethic. I think Newt would give 2 thumbs up.
Yours sincerely,
Walton Family, 1%ers
What in the world is a 1%-er doing on this board? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Surely, your post was a satirical review of the Republican and THEIR 1%-ers. If so, thank you.
If not, then may God help your greedy soul.
Wow, another lucrative pool for the 1% to mine in search of - the cheapest labor on the planet.
[ In Reply To ..]Why stop at mopping the halls and cleaning toilets? Heck, let's get the grossly over-compensated minimum wage undocumented work force to provide unpaid training for them in the construction, cleaning and landscaping sectors, so they can be poised to take over after we ship the hoipolloi back to their impoverished homelands. If we play our cards just right, we might be able to figure out a way for our poor underprivileged puerile patriots to depress wages in overseas sweat shops in some sort of multinational indentured student exchange program! How exciting is that? Atta boy, Newt, way to go! I think you're onto something REEEAAALY BIG.
Yes, he's on to something really big: the return - of slavery. nm
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LOL. Oh my, you are so desperate. How can you - distort things and have a conscience? nm
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Oh, I have a conscience. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]And I didn't distort anything. The Grinch said that child labor laws are "very stupid."
If you have a brain, just think about where this could lead for the do-nothing party of the rich.
What is incorrect about what Newt said? Its just - the sad truth. He has GUTS to say it. nm
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The truth - mbmt
[ In Reply To ..]The truth is there are millions of "working" Americans below or just a little above the poverty level, so to say that poor kids come from homes where the parents do not work or know how to work is just plain baloney. This is coming from a man who is a multimillionaire and supposedly receives $60,000 to give a speech. He is clueless about what is going on in this country.
Remember his brilliant orphan train proposal? - Talk about regressive.
[ In Reply To ..]They nearly ran him out of town for that bean-brain scheme. Looks like his contempt for poor kids and their parents hasn't changed one iota since then. Unbelievable.
Newt - GC
[ In Reply To ..]I was really unaware of Newt's stand on most things until I heard that he thought the people of the "Occupy" group should bathe and get jobs. Does he think it is easy to find a job? He was born with not a silver, but a solid gold spoon in his mouth obviously. I'm not for or against the "Occupy" group, but people like Newt Gingrich are definitely clueless as to what is going in this country. The big problem is the rich are trying to "cut out" the middle class and have only two classes -- rich and poor. Just because a person comes from a poor family that lives on welfare does not mean that person will do the same. A lot of times the poor kid wants to do better than his parents and with the help of some good teachers and churches can achieve this goal. You notice I did not say politicians. I emailed Newt Gingrich regarding his remarks about "Occupy" -- and have not heard back.
What does the Bible say? "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God". Matt. chaper 19, verse 23. We know where the ultra-rich CEO's and politicians are going.
Bravo! Great post. You nailed it. - nm
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I was thinking the same thing as I was reading - the original post sm
[ In Reply To ..]I live in a rural area where there are A LOT of people who fall under the poverty level. I used to work in a doctor's office in the town and got to know a lot of the people. We were one of the only offices that would see the Medicaid children. They had to be true poverty to get Medicaid. Most of the parents didn't work, not because they couldn't. I can't even imagine their living conditions, although some I do know unfortunately. It was so sad because you would see these sweet little kids that didn't have a chance. You knew they were going to be in the exact same place there parents were in as most of the time it was a generational thing. In all fairness, the parents of these kids really didn't know how to make it either as this was how they were raised.
I really don't see what is so bad about wanting to help people in a way of showing them how to work and what would be expected out of them for a job. I would be glad for my kids to something like this just to instill work ethic and to let them know they are never too good for any kind of job.
I have had to work 2 and even 3 jobs before to help out when we have been struggling, working 2 now. I have always said with having to work so much that at least my kids have seen me working very hard to provide what they needed, and it would hopefully rub off that you do what you have to do to support your family.
Singling out underprivileged kids - for work ethics indoctrination
[ In Reply To ..]and assuming that all other children don't need that is what's wrong with this picture, especially considering the stigma attached to poverty. If they are going to involve students in taking care of their schools by assuming personal responsibility for emptying trash cans, cleaning blackboards and erasers, sweeping floors, etc., it should be ALL kids or none at all. A mean-spirited divisive policy such as Newt's will never achieve the same desirable results as one that is inclusive.
Case in point would be the school lunch program that is offered to ALL students, not one that embarrasses a child by showcasing their poverty in front of their peers, leaving them wide open for relentless teasing, ridicule and bullying. If they want to target children of poverty, why not fund after-school programs that provide mentoring by volunteers such as Big Brothers/Big Sisters and focus it on such activities as visualizing dreams, goal setting, decision making, pathways to achieving specific aspirations, recognizing self worth, bolstering self-esteem, and channeling their energies toward destinations that rise above the level of janitor for life?
The entire concept sounds like it is designed to trap them in the poverty cycle, not lift them out of it. But then again, that's Newt. I wonder if you also think that taking them away from their parents and placing them in orphanages (or the softer, kinder "group homes" designation) is either helpful or even acceptable? He has a track record of ill-conceived, misguided and openly hostile policy initiatives toward poverty and has never shied away from placing children in his crosshairs. Still as out of touch now as he always has been.
Excellent post. Thank you. - nm
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Not mean spirited. You cannot handle the truth in - order to solve problems.. YOUR problem. nm
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First and foremost, I would not even consider - myself a Newt fan, but
[ In Reply To ..]I do have to agree with him on this issue. It is something that a lot of us think but wouldn't have the nerve to try to implement it. I would not worry about singling someone out if it helped them out in the long run. To me it is a little different than the school lunch issues. It would be a building block for them to learn how to hold a job, for kids that have no one at home to show them the way. I really don't see a Big Brother program doing a whole lot for that, and honestly, as we have seen some of the freaks coming out of the woodwork with these types of programs, don't even know that I would want my kids to go to one.
There is nothing wrong with teaching kids that you have to work to provide for yourself and your family. Back when my husband and I first married (We were in high school), he had a job at a factory, and he would stay over and do clean up. This meant cleaning the nasty bathrooms that all the men had been using all day. I don't know if they made fun of him or didn't, but he did it anyway because that's what he needed to do.
As far as taking children away and putting them in orphanages, not sure that is the answer, but I do feel that a parent has an obligation to provide the basic necessities for their children, i.e food, shelter and clothing. I do feel if for a whole lifetime of a child, lots of families multiple children, none of these needs are met by the parents then that would be child neglect, which is to me criminal.
Libs never fail to disappoint - Too Predictable
[ In Reply To ..]Never mind wanting to teach our children personal responsibility, values, self-worth, independence, good work ethics, and growing up to be mature adults.
“GOTTA KEEP EM DOWN”
Motto of the welfare, food stamp, racist, paranoid, xenophobic, oppressing, and “only we know what’s good for you party” more infamously known as the Democratic Party.
Pubs--Greed is too obvious - Can't get fooled again-nm
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Exactly. and kids who only learn from welfare families - grow up to be the same. I have WORKED with
[ In Reply To ..]these families. The only way to change their future is break the cycle and teach them there is pride in working, scraping, finding a way to be independent. Libs never want anyone to have personal responsibility, which is why our country is in the toilet.
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