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Catholic League president: Priests aren't pedophiles, molesting children is 'what
Posted: Apr 8, 2010
Tuesday, April 6th, 2010 -- 11:35 pm
In another coup for the seemingly part-time political pundit Bill Donohue, CNN broadcast on Tuesday a conversation about the Catholic church's thousands of pedophilia scandals that would be awkward to even over-hear in public, let alone broadcast nation-wide.
That's because Donohue, who presides over the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, decided to take the matter of a 14-year-old's sexual abuse to a level of technicality where none of his fellow contributors really cared to tread.
Objecting to the term "pedophilia" being used to describe the rampant claims of children being sexually abused by priests and nuns, Donohue instead called the acts "homosexuality," later suggesting "that's what gays do."
Though repeatedly cited in the media as the Catholic Church's "pedophilia" problem, Donohue instead prefers a longer term, according to his editorial published by CNN on March 19: "the sexual molestation of minors."
And, actually, the two terms are not mutually exclusive, explains the psychology department at UC Davis, noting that "pedophilia" as used to describe the church's scandals "can cause confusion."
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I am speechless. Still denying, still rationalizing. nm - oldtimer
[ In Reply To ..].
Here's the rationalization that most understand... - nnn
[ In Reply To ..]It's very simple...Homosexual acts can be committed by ANYONE, regardless of what they prefer to be called. Sexual acts are just that....sexual. Hetero refers to sex acts with someone of the opposite sex. Homo refers to sex acts with someone of the same sex. Anyone can engage in either of the two. However, if you are one of those who prefers to call yourself a "homosexual" then acts such as these done by these priests which were committed with persons of the male sex are going to be construed as being done by a homosexual simply because the act was committed with someone of the same sex. Even if these priests had a wife, the act is still a "homosexual" act and the act will become your "title." For instance... If you steal your title is THIEF even if you are really a PASTOR. If you kill, your title is MURDERER even if you are really a DOCTOR. If you put out fires, your title is FIREMAN even if you are really a DANCER. If you give instruction, your title is TEACHER even if you are really a STUDENT. Regardless of what you may like to be known as or what you really are or what you really do, society will give you a title based on what they know you do. It matters not whether sex is consentual or if you rape someone or molest someone, society will look at the individuals involved. If you are committing any of these acts with a same-sex person, you will be referred to as homosexual. If you are committing these acts with an opposite-sex person, you will be referred to as a heterosexual. And it matter not one iota what the age of the person is. If you have sexual relations with a child, you will be referred to as a pedophile; however, some pedophiles have a preference and if your preference is for a child of the same sex, you will be referred to as a homosexual pedophile. If you are really an "old timer," I am surprised that someone had to explain the rationale to you. Now, you can start the rant, but it won't change the facts. ;)
Did you read this back to - yourself?
[ In Reply To ..]Idiotic ramblings in the purest of forms.
What's idiotic... - nnn
[ In Reply To ..]to me is that people even want to engage in sexual acts with someone of the same sex. Really abnormal, unnatural, sinful, not to mention just downright disgusting.
Does this mean you're okay - with
[ In Reply To ..]children as long as they are of the opposite sex?
I know that what consenting adults do among themselves is none of my business, and I do not dwell on it.
What adults do with children is a completely different matter.
That was really a stupid question... - nnn
[ In Reply To ..]not really deserving of an answer but since you obviously have a hard time with rationale....
What consenting adults do is also none of my business; however, I do have an opinion about it since it is unnatural, abnormal and disgusting just as I have opinions about lots of things others do that are illegal, disgusting, odd, etc. I don't dwell on it either but it doesn't stop me from having an opinion.
What adults do with children is immoral, disgusting and I feel heartbroken for these children but that still doesn't change the facts of what these people are.
An afterthought though obviously. - It is
[ In Reply To ..]obvious where your true concerns lie. You didn't even mention the children in your previous post. You're obsessed with the sex lives of homosexual adults. You might want to see someone about that.
I have no idea... - nnn
[ In Reply To ..]what you're talking about when you say, "You didn't even mention the children in your previous post." It is obvious...having sexual relations with a child is illegal (and hopefully it will continue to be illegal but with the way the country's headed...who knows). It is legal for adults to have sex with any other adult they wish. That fact does not make it any less disgusting. People are "obsessed" as you say because, regardless of whether it is "legal" or "consentual," the act is immoral, unnatural, abnormal and disgusting STILL. There are millions who believe this act is disgusting. You just don't get out much and you wish to believe that everyone is ok with this behavior---as long as the act is between consentual adults. You couldn't be more wrong. I think it is those who engage in this behavior that need to "see someone about it." ;)
You need to spend your time thinking about things - you can do something
[ In Reply To ..]about. It's sick that you spend time thinking about other people's sex lives.
Apparently... - nnn
[ In Reply To ..]God took some time to think about it so I believe it must be pretty important for us to consider "thinking" about and restrict ourselves to the norm. ;)
Now this is a good post - If you
[ In Reply To ..]can just keep your mind on your own sexual behavior. You'll be much better off.
That being said... - nnn
[ In Reply To ..]it doesn't justify sexual behavior (or any behavior for that matter) that's wrong and that's still the point. Just because something may be "none of our business" or "not affect us" it doesn't change the facts and it's the facts that most people choose to ingore or even try to change.
There will always be those of us who believe some things are immoral, unnatural, etc. and just because we don't do those particular things doesn't mean they are no longer immoral, unnatural, or abnormal. It also doesn't mean we shouldn't concern ourselves about them. Children need to be taught that these things are immoral, abnormal and even dangerous and "minding our own business" doesn't teach them things they need to know that could save their health and even their lives. So, continue on with your own "habits" and I'll continue with mine which I consider "my business." So far in this country, we can still speak our minds whether certain people like it or not. ;)
Can't wait till you try to teach someone else's - children
[ In Reply To ..]without the parent's consent. Let me know how that works out for you.
Hate to break this to ya... - nnn
[ In Reply To ..]but kids all over America are being taught about homosexuality being the "norm" in schools all over the country without the consent of parents. You can "teach" withoug really saying too much, such as YUK, NASTY, GROSS, DISEASE. Some kids understand that lingo. ;)
Hate to break this to ya, but unless it's a - private school
[ In Reply To ..]judgements about the behavior are not allowed to be relayed, good, bad, or indifferent.
Ask yourself this question....is it only what you have been taught that keeps you from being homosexual yourself?
If it is, you have HUGE problems. You should have more faith in people than to believe they would be attracted to the same sex merely because they have not been taught not to be.
Whether a person is a homosexual or not is not an issue of learning that it's wrong to be so; therefore, that will keep them from being homosexual.
You can teach people that it's wrong to practice homosexuality, but that is not going to keep them from being homosexual.
And, if you believe in God, then you know it's up to him to judge, not us.
Homosexuality is an act... - nnn
[ In Reply To ..]just as heterosexuality is and any person can engage in either one which means that there is no such thing as being homosexual or heterosexual but simply committing these acts and only one is immoral. It is because I do believe in God that I believe it is wrong, because He says so. That's all I need to know. It is not my job to judge. Stating something is wrong is not a judgement.
What keeps me from committing homosexual acts is God's command, common sense and the strong desire to stay healthy, both physically and mentally. ;)
Wow, okay so you could - perform
[ In Reply To ..]homosexual acts if not for God's command, common sense and the strong desire to stay healthy both physically and mentally?
Okay, I will leave you alone now. You do have big problems. You're just a command, a thought, and a desire away from performing homosexual acts.
P.S. Wonder what keeps all the nonhomosexual-act-performing people who don't believe in God, have no common sense, and don't care if they die tomorrow from performing homosexual acts. hmmmmmmmm...
This is outrageous and should be - condemned
[ In Reply To ..]by everyone. To me pedophiles should be prosecuted and put away for life. I don't care what title you hold and I don't care how you want to word it.
I wonder how this lowlife feels about NAMBLA.
http://www.nambla.org/
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