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Catholic Military Chaplins Face Arrest for performing Mass


Posted: Oct 5, 2013

There's a lot more in this story. See the link.

 

MILITARY PRIESTS FACE ARREST FOR CELEBRATING MASS IN DEFIANCE OF SHUTDOWN

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Our government is out of control.

First, it was the World War II veterans who had to break down barriers to see the open air, un-attended memorial erected in their honor.  A memorial which is on public land but is supported – including the National Park Service fee – with private funds. This week there was more security surrounding this memorial — just to keep elderly veterans out — than there was at our embassy in Benghazi the night it was attacked.

And for what? To inflict as much pain as possible through this government shutdown. It’s called Washington Monument Syndrome, and it’s pure political theater.

But now there’s a story just coming to light that takes things even further. According the Archdiocese for Military Services, GS and contract priests (who are paid by the federal government as independent contractors in places where there aren’t enough active-duty priests to meet the needs of Catholics in military service) are being forbidden from celebrating Mass, even on a volunteer basis.

If they violate this restriction, they face possible arrest. FOR CELEBRATING MASS. 

From John Schlageter, General Counsel for the Archdiocese:

There is a chronic shortage of active duty Catholic chaplains. While roughly 25% of the military is Catholic, Catholic priests make up only about 8% of the chaplain corps. That means approximately 275,000 men and women in uniform, and their families, are served by only 234 active-duty priests.  The temporary solution to this shortage is to provide GS and contract priests.   These men are employed by the government to ensure that a priest is available when an active duty Catholic Chaplain is not present.  With the government shutdown, GS and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer.  During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.

As an example, if a Catholic family has a Baptism scheduled at the base chapel at Langley AFB this weekend, unless they can locate a priest who is not a GS or contract priest, they should consider it cancelled.   Likewise, a Marine who attends Sunday Mass at the Quantico Chapel will have to go elsewhere this weekend.  If you are a Catholic stationed in Japan or Korea and are served by a Contract or GS priest, unless you speak Korean or Japanese and can find a church nearby, then you have no choice but to go without Mass this weekend.  Until the Federal Government resumes normal operations, or an exemption is granted to contract or GS priests, Catholic services are indefinitely suspended at those worldwide installations served by contract and GS priests.

At a time when the military is considering alternative sources of funding for sporting events at the service academies, no one seems to be looking for funding to ensure the Free Exercise rights of Catholics in uniform. Why not?

This shutdown impacts Catholics in the military worldwide. In the DC-metro area, it specifically impacts bases like Quantico. 

http://www.catholicvote.org/military-priests-face-arrest-for-celebrating-mass-in-defiance-of-shutdown/


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Guess the GOP better get control of their Tea Party then! - WhoCares

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So much theater is what this is! If the right-wingers are so upset over this, then they need to contact their Tea Party congressmen and demand that they stop their childish behavior! The Affordable Care Act is the law, upheld by the Supreme Court! What they're doing is absolutely childish behavior, akin to a temper tantrum. I'm actually embarrassed by the behavior of these "elected officials."

Childish as in refusing to go to conference; childish as in I will not negotiate? That's what - Oldie

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It's not going their way, so rather than meet in earnest, they picked up their marbles and left the game.

No dear, childish as in refusing to do their jobs - when

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they don't get their way. Childish as in acting like a bunch of school yard bullies with their all-blow-and-no-show threats. Childish as in taking hostages, then turning around and releasing them one-by-one, a transparent pretense that will NEVER change widespread public perceptions that the GOP is responsible for the shutdown. Did you read the National Journal poll the other day where a full one third of the respondents think the number one GOP priority is "troublemaking?" No?

Here ya go:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressional-connection/coverage/americans-think-gop-s-top-priority-is-troublemaking-20131001
Obviously you don't understand the the Congress originally passed these funding bills individua - Oldie
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Xx
Have you ever heard of the fiscal year? President's budget request? - Budget resolution?
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Authorization and appropriation? Discretionary spending? Mandatory spending (Medicaid, Medicare, SS, SNAP, etc)? Appropriated entitlements? Any of this ring a bell? They are all part of the budget process and are supposed to be addressed on a yearly basis. That's why they call it a fiscal YEAR. It is NOT, I repeat, NOT customary to handle these issues separately...not in terms of FY funding.

The congressional extremists have been disrupting routine processes such as budgeting and raising the debt ceiling for so long now, I guess they think piecemeal "fits and starts" and lurching from one phony crisis to the next is standard operating procedure. It's not, and never will be. We all deserve better than what they're serving up these days.

Then why has Bozo gone 5 years without a budget? - nm
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nm
Guess you'll have to ask Congress. Passing a budget is not - the president's job. nm
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Gosh! So many echos...maybe Obama should have - Truthhurts
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gotten his act together and put together a budget for the House over the past FOUR, now going on FIVE years? Or are we only counting this year?

No other president (as far as I know) had any problem with submitting a budget to Congress. What's up with Obama?

I think he's too interested in golfing, basketball and vacations to bother.

Disklike this post but you (meaning a lot of people on this board) just can't see any truth.
Yup, not one budget (sm) - msg
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except the one he must have submitted as a joke that not one Democrat even voted for. He's a waste. All of a sudden, the budget is a big concern. Open your eyes, folks.

Haven't you heard? Hagel took care of this - already

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when he had Pentagon and Justice Department lawyers interpret provisions of the Pay Our Military Act stating federal civilians and defense contractors engaged “in support” of the active-duty armed forces are entitled to pay. The act passed and was signed just hours before the shutdown went into effect.

I guess Hagel decided they were entitled to go to work, as well. He will be calling nearly all of the 400,000 furloughed defense workers back to work on Monday. BTW, he's a Catholic, so I wouldn't count on his excluding priests from being perceived as staff who provides the troops with "support." His approach to this is to call back as many workers as he possibly can.

So sorry the TPs have gone down another blind ally in attempt to convince voters they are traveling "the high road" through the government shutdown. Also, it will be pretty hard to drag out the well-worn "preferential treatment" accusations, considering the outlandish behaviors they current have on display.

Monday isn't Sunday. Until the priests are allowed to go back, - Truthhurts

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the order stands.

If they floated the CR on Sat instead of sending another - red herring upstream

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the chaplains would have been in their pulpits. Guess the TP drones should have thought of that before they shut down the government, huh?

Because they *could* be arrested, does not - mean they will be.

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No one is being arrested, so where's the problem?

I can't bring myself to care about this. - nm

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