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Ben Carson really?

Posted: May 29, 2014

Since conservatives never gave our black "not qualified to be president" a chance to tackle the country's problems, what makes you think YOUR black "not qualified to be president AT ALL" should be elected?

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Your all over the board. Maybe a less anger in your posts - would serve you well - sm

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We gave your president a chance. He's had 5 years in there now and things are worse than when he first started. He's been given literally thousands of chances, which just keeps getting worse and worse. He is proving every day that marxism does not work, but he doesn't seem to get it.

This has nothing to do with the color of anyone's skin. Could care less if he is white, black, Hispanic, purple or green. The color of someone's skin doesn't affect the war, poverty, hunger, the deficit, inflation, crimes, etc. You guys really do need to get a new line. As we often read here...sour grapes? What part of it's his policies, not the color of his skin, are you not understanding? Nobody here is saying we don't like his policies because he is black. They are saying we don't like his policies because they are not working and is bad for the country, and is getting worse and worse.

And what's up with "our black" and "YOUR black"? Why did you capitalize your, but not our? That's awfully curious. Are you trying to get some kind of a racial thing going?

No, BO was never qualified to hold the position, just a fact and his actions prove that.

To set the records straight conservatives gave BO plenty of chances.

The only thing that has happened by BOs being in office is that it proved that America has come a long way from the 50s and 60s. White people did vote for a black man. I'm proud of how far our country has come since those years. Too bad BO is trying to take us back to those days and his sheople will gleefully follow the pied piper and his music.

I stopped reading at - "marxism"

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I do not dialogue with individuals who use Fox talk to replace thought. I do hope you convince Ben Carson to run though. It would be a laugh fest.

I still laugh out - loud

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remembering Mitt's convention. Oh good times! I don't know how Carson could top it, but I'm sure the conservatives would come up with something jaw-dropping like Clint Eastwood's monologue.

speaking of humour - and conservatives

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Rush actually said something funny today. He suggested the way around the Redskins name controversy was simple. Change the mascot from an Indian to a potato.

Good times! - Should be interesting!

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After the establishment Republicans and the Tea Party regime all bludgeon each other in the primaries, maybe they could bring back the chair and let W talk to it this time. Do you think 2016 will be too soon to let him out of exile?

I think they - sm

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would be wise to actually nominate the chair. They are so desperate. NONE of their official politicians are acceptable, so they want to nominate a pale (sorry) imitation of the historic 2 termer the majority and democrats elected!

I will give this fabulous idea - freely to repubs

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You can thank me later. Have Clint out on the stage blinking blankly. Have Ben rush out in his white coat and lay his hands on Clint. Clint suddenly becomes coherent. Conservatives are real big on miracle healings. There is your convention highlight. Glory, Glory, Hallelujah.

I was hoping for something comical. - sm

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This was pretty lame, sorry.

I was merely - trying

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to bring some Truth to the board. And Justice, yeah, that's the ticket - Truth and Justice.

With Clint and Ben? - Sorry, it's lost on me.

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try these - sm

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Mom jeans! Short pitch! Killary Klinton! Joey-boy Biden. Knee slappers! The baggers and the thumpers would swoon at the Ben and Clint scenario, don't kid yourself.

I guess... - sm

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I just don't get your humor, but that's okay. To each his own... :-)

well - sm

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thanks for your feedback. I will use it to help me grow.

Closed minds usually do. I know it's hard reading the truth - but facts are facts

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Wouldn't know about "Fox talk" since I don't have cable.

And if you don't dialogue with them then why did you dialogue???

Ben Carson will make up his own mind on whether or not he will run. He's a very intelligent man and has leadership qualities. He's inspiring for ALL people of the country, not just black people. Although there is nothing inspiring for anyone of any race with what is in there. Dr. Carson also inspires unlike Mr. community organizer, and Dr. Carson does not proclaim he's the second coming.

But I do hope you convince Killary or Crazy-wild eyed Joey Biden to run. Now THAT would be a laugh fest.

I agree - sm

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Watching Hillary eviscerate Dr. Ben Carson in a political debate would be a laugh riot. But wait, Dr. Carson is 62 years old, only 4 years younger than Hillary.

Isn't he too old!? (sarcasm)

I would love to hear Rove explain to everybody how Dr. Has Been is more qualified than Hillary based on age.

it would be funny to watch - Fox

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use that to say Hillary bullies the young!

Well since he never said - Mrs. Tingles - sm

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That Killary was not qualified based on her age, I would not expect him to comment on Dr. Carson's age.

Killary is just not qualified, period. It's not her age, it's her ideations and who her mentors were and who she idolizes and her whole philosophy. It's not good for the people.

Oh I would love to see Dr. Carson and Dillary in a political debate. He would win hands down and hopefully send her back from under the rock she crawled out of.

Karl Rove--Good Times - sm

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Karl Rove is one of the most outspoken Republican operatives working behind the scenes to discredit Tea Party candidates.

When I said I would love to hear Rove explain to everybody how Dr. Has Been is more qualified than Hillary based on age, that is exactly what I meant.

And I still would.

Rove - sm

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Karl's ripping them up behind the scenes, and his PAC is working hard to keep the Tea Party out. So far, so good from Karl's perspective, as no TP candidates won in the mid May primaries. Wouldn't it be a hoot to watch him work against keeping the good doctor from becoming the candidate (what Karl would deem a sure loser) only to have to turn around and sing his praises?

Slash and burn them and then sing their praises while trying to keep a straight face. Remember Rove trying to sell his party a President John McCain after slandering him so deftly when he ran against Bush? Right! Republican hypocrisy at its finest. Fun times! Get your popcorn ready!

The second coming? - sm

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You wrote: "Dr. Carson also inspires unlike Mr. community organizer, and Dr. Carson does not proclaim he's the second coming."

Please provide some verification that President Obama "proclaimed he's the second coming," because I never heard him say that.

Please prove that he said that, unless it's just another lie that cannot be verified.

Three Truths and - Three Promises

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TRUTHS
1. The majority elects the president, as set forth in the Constitution.
2. The majority elected him. Twice.
3. His last day in office is scheduled to be January 20, 2017.

PROMISES
1. None us will ever vote for him again.
2. His successor will not be perfect either.
3. Bitter people will criticize his/her every move.

Four Directions - sm

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North, east, south, west. Simple yet profound?

Correction - sm

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These are the truths:

Your first "truth" you wrote about is the way it is supposed to work.

Your second "truth" is not a truth actually.

Your third "truth" would be the best thing to happen for our country.

Promises
Your first promise is a duh.

Your second promise is kind of like saying, his successor will not carry a slinky. It makes no sense. Unless your looking for this to now become a victim mode.

Your third promise will depend on his actions. But its the same way with any party. Bitter people will criticize their every move. It happens with every president. You should have been on this board when President Bush was in office.

Love your post!!! - NPC

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Very well said!!

Thanks - was just bringing some truth to the board - sm

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Gone are the days of how it used to be. Hello to the days of whoever has the golden egg makes the rules (golden egg = money).

I learned that a long time ago. Just a fact of life. When you learn about how things are really run, then it's easy to move on with your life. Just hard to believe so many are still stuck in the matrix.

One More - Truth

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Denying the truth doesn't alter it.

True - I forgot that one. Thanks - Person you replied to - nm.

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If I could like this a million times, I would. - NPC

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Thank you for your eloquence in expressing thoughts and feelings shared by many of us. And thank you also for pointing out the obvious facts that seem to escape his flock.

Thanks. Getting tired of having to explain the obvious - Mrs. Tingles - sm

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Don't know how many times we have to repeat the same thing. I guess people don't like to face the truth.

It's funny that of all people, the pubs would be - referring to "sheep"...... nm

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I just don't see the anger. It's a simple question. - Seriously

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It's a one sentence post that asks a question about qualifications. If Obama was not qualified to hold the office, what makes Dr. Carson? He's never held any political office whatsoever and has absolutely zero foreign policy experience. Why is he a more desirable candidate versus the criticism of the president (with actually much more experience)? The argument against Obama could factually apply to Dr. Carson, and the argument for Dr. Carson could equally have applied to candidate Obama in 2007.

The poster then gets dissected for some kind of "word forming conspiracy theory" for capitalizing one word and not another, and then the poster is accused of being angry and race baiting. Perhaps review Dr. Carson's book or listen to him speak on "the new paranoia in America being political correctness?" (see link)

I just don't see the anger in the one sentence question post. Not everybody is going to agree with the opinion that others seem intent on trying to somehow prove is a "fact". It is not possible to make an opinion of the president a fact any more than it is possible for Bush's or Dr. Carson's or _____________ fill in name here's supporters to make their opinion of that politician a fact by insisting on it daily.

Even the most critical opponent should not fail to recognize that President Obama could have ended the war in Iraq, turned around the U.S. auto industry, and brought to justice the leader of the terrorist group that killed 3000+ American citizens on 09/11/2001 in New York City, (done, done, and done), but a certain element in this country would somehow discount and/or criticize those accomplishments regardless. But bet the almighty bottom dollar that had any one of those things not been ultimately successful, he'd have been the target of derision for the continuing death of troops in Iraq, the failing auto industry, and the disaster in Abbottabad would probably now be known as "Obamabad."

No, the man is not perfect, but even a casual observer can see that his supporters don't view him as such and that he cares about this country and has its best interests at heart. So calling our president and the majority electorate names, no matter how often and no matter how insistent, proves absolutely nothing. If you're backing the perfect candidate, perhaps you're electing the "empty chair."

Whatever happened to civility in this country? Is it long gone? Yesterday the confetti flew on TWO winners at the Spelling Bee, Sriram Hathwar from New York and Ansun Sujoe from Texas, and they held up the trophy together, both champions, a finish not seen in more than half a century.

"I think we both know that the competition is against the dictionary and not against each other," Sriram said. "I'm happy to share this trophy with him."

Why can't the adults in the room be more like the children?

there was no anger but angry - always see

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their faults in others. Read through that disturbing post about not taking kindly to threats, etc., and the writer personifies every single trait she accuses OP of. Conservs are so accustomed to repeating what their churners say that they do the same thing with posts. They extract words and phrases and try claim them for their own (ex: I'm not bitter, you are bitter) and think they have a victory! It is only amusing for a bit, kinda like training a parrot. As for civility, I don't see it returning for a long period. Until the uncivil cons stop following Malkin, Beck, Rush, Hannity, they are just being goaded into more anger. But they chose to listen to those people, so they are responsible for their choices.

Yeah, I'd rather watch Sharpton v. Teleprompter - sm

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Information is so much better delivered and more honest over there at MSLSD. It appears you just can't handle the truth.

Funny thing about your post - sm

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The faults you see in others are a reflection of your own, because you are doing the same thing you accuse them of. The door swings both ways. Yeah, I read the disturbing post that threatened a poster with some kind of warning. It was pretty disturbing. Made the hair stand on my neck to read that hateful post. The poster who was threatened wrote back a sensible reply to her.

Don't know what post(s) you are talking about with the "bitter" remark. It's not in any of the posts I post, so unsure what "victory" you seem to think are referring to.

The disturbing post was the one who was threatening the poster with her "warnings". But I guess when you agree with people on your side you will never see the fault in their posts. I guess threats are okay if they are being made from the left.

I agree with you on one thing. I do not see civility returning for a long period. But not until the uncivil libs stop following Mathews, Maddox, Schultz, etc. Not until they get off the faux racist allegations. The libs are the ones being brainwashed into an angry frenzy spewing hate and threats at anyone who doesn't call themselves a liberal.

Just like the poster who threatened the other poster, and for all the hatred spewed by the left, they too are responsible for their choices.

Abraham Maslow Regarding Perspective - sm

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"I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail." -- Abraham Maslow

The poster (not me) was referencing a renowned psychologist and making a point about perspective. That quote was twisted around, as usual, and the poster was accused of making a threat, which of course never happened, and was most likely then reported and censored.

It was a post about perspective, and she pretty much nailed it.

When someone gives you a "warning" - that is a threat

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"Just fair warning that we..." Um, yeah, that is a threat. Warning?

Definition of warning: "An intimation, threat, or sign of impending danger or evil. Advice to beware."

So, yes, it was a threat. I don't care that you agreed with her, that does not make it okay for libs to make threats on others.

As another poster here wrote "Denying the truth doesn't alter it.".

Just for the record, it was not about perspective, unless you consider hateful angry threats and assumptions
"perspective".

It was removed and rightfully so.

Hmmmm - sm

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The OP was a one sentence question.

IMO, the answer to it basically twisted its meaning, described her as angry, included multiple paragraphs bashing the opposition party and it's candidate, declared a laundry list of inaccuracies as "facts," and lastly accused her of race baiting.

In her answer she quoted Abraham Maslow's "hammer/nails" for perspective, and honestly, I only read the post once before it was apparently reported and censored. I didn't memorize the words, but I didn't see it at all as "intimation, threat, or a sign of impending danger or evil."

It's an anonymous political chat board where the only thing to fear are words. I've personally never felt threatened by a noun verb combination or a dangerous prepositional phrase. IMO, no reason to ever feel threatened or afraid of words if you have facts to support your argument versus a string of unsubstantiated ad hominem attacks.

Blanket inaccuracies disguised as "fact" are harmless, and "fair warning" that you might find yourself on the other end of a similar response post is a fairly standard statement. After all, the OP was a one sentence question.

Yeah, hmmmm - sm

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Her threat was not an OP. It was several posts afterwards.

A threat is a threat.

It was rightfully removed.

Selective Memory - SM

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* She asked a 1-sentence question in the OP.
* She received a response in the usual attack mode that twisted her words around and accused her of race baiting.
* She responded with the Maslow reference about hammers and nails.
* She received a second response that freaked out and took the hammer/nails quote to mean weapons......

Which, of course, they aren't and never could be, unless you think a metaphor on a political chat board is somehow threatening.

Twisting facts is what the pubs do best. - These days its a given.

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Is that one of the "truths" in Chillary's new book? - sm

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Or did you come to that conclusion on your own? If so, can you substantiate your claim?

You mean its wht the dems do best - Proof is just listening to their spin

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Hawwy & Pelousy & dear leader have perfected it.

I'm a conservative and I don't support Carson - for President.

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Although I agree with Dr. Carson in every respect with regard to his positions, I don't believe that he's qualified to be President, regardless of race, just as it was obvious to me in 2008 that Obama wasn't qualified.

The presidency is an executive position, and in my opinion those who aspire to it should have accumulated a record of proven executive success with very large organizations. Dr. Carson doesn't fit that requirement.

There are other ways that Dr. Carson could serve the nation.

I agree with you - he is a very

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compelling speaker. I don't agree with him at all, but respect him. I think a president has to be wise to the ways of Washington and know how to work with the other politicians. You cannot just say lets put a fine man in there. If he cant pull the strings, he is ignored.

Specifically what do you disagree with Carson about? - nm

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