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ACA ended health insurance in America. The ACA's ban on


Posted: Nov 3, 2016

and its ban on pre-existing condition (“pre-ex”) exclusions means we don’t have health insurance any more. The ACA mandates that health plans enroll people with pre-existing conditions. That’s not insurance against a risk. That’s third-party financing of a known condition. The law also equalizes premiums for healthy enrollees and unhealthy enrollees. Both must be charged the same, regardless of health status. That’s not insurance either. Skyrocketing costs are the result. People with pre-existing conditions—most of them previously insured through the 35 state high-risk pools disallowed by the ACA—entered the Obamacare exchanges in droves, driving up costs and premiums for everyone buying insurance on their own. This is because a policy sold off the exchange must be the same price as a policy sold on the exchange. Bottom line: This means the cost of people with pre-existing conditions was shoved onto the small segment of Americans that buy their own coverage. The exchange essentially became the federal “high-risk pool” for people with pre-existing conditions—funded by the approximately 11 million Americans who buy their own insurance without subsidies on or off the exchange. Meanwhile, nearly 83 percent of all exchange enrollees get subsidies funded by taxpayers, who must also pay the higher premiums. NOTE: Most people with employer coverage are sheltered from skyrocketing costs because they’re not in the exchange and don’t buy their own coverage. Democrats tried to hide the cost of this plan. To prevent health plans from increasing premiums to cover “pre-ex enrollees,” the plans were promised risk-based subsidies for the first three years -- the length of time expected for the young and healthy to enroll and their premiums to cover the increase. But the subsidies were insufficient and most Millennials wisely stayed out. Moreover, most businesses decided to keep their employees off the exchange. So today, with two of the law’s risk-based subsidies disappearing on December 31, the cost of the law’s “pre-ex ban,” low enrollment, ban on catastrophic coverage, and rich benefit requirements is showing up as 25 to 145 percent premium increases for individuals, families and small businesses. I once heard the liberal Van Jones discuss how a “minimum demand”—something small and seemingly insignificant—could be a “radical seed.” I consider the ban on pre-existing condition exclusions the radical seed of single-payer. Where health insurance ends, national health care begins. Citizens Counsel for Health Freedom ;

Rates go up: Crisis! Gvt steps in with solution:Single Payer - Get pepole desperate and they'll

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open to drastic change. That’s the Obama formula. MSM fuels the perceived crisis. Politicians line up to "solve" the problem they created.

I really don't need more evidence...
I know what the end-game is.

Obama's single payer guru, Quentin Young, a longtime supporter of communist causes, a friend of Bill Ayers, helped establish the Democratic Socialists of America, Co-founded Physicians for a National Health Program, an advocacy organization that lobbies on behalf of a single-payer, government-run healthcare system...


So, you believe because women's health care - sm

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So, because women's health care is more expensive then men's, you believe it is justified for insurance companies to charge women more?

Health care is not health insurance. I don't even - understand your question.

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So many of the anti-ACA have no understanding of insurance - Paid my woman tax
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For 45 years I paid the woman tax on health insurance. Women have been paying higher premiums to cover the cost of pregnancy and all those related problems with bladders and uteri until the ACA made it more fair.

I don't want to pay for your alcoholism problems as I don't drink, but so be it. That is the way insurance is.
What is this man vs woman thing? - ???
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Pit groups against each other. Man/woman, rich/poor, - it's Cloward Piven.
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nm
Playing the woman card. - NM
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NM
Alcohol treatment isn't covered by all insurance and pregancy - is not a preexisting condition.
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I understand insurance just fine. My husband works for a large company.

Still not sure why this is a man/woman issue.
So if that was true, why the need to change it by Obama? - Why not leave it alone?
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Why?

Do you believe a 60 year old should have to pay for - birth control pills?

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xx
Spoken like a man who has never had a power surge. - NM
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If you like the care and compasison of the IRS, you are - going to love the bureaucrats

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that decide what medical treatment you are permitted to have.

Never had a problem with the IRS - I don't cheat, You? - NM

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Don't you know the IRS has been given power to tax - people who don't have insurance?
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They've also hired several thousand more agents for that purpose.

Medicare started the ball rollingand ACA just increased - the slope for the race to

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single-payer.

Like everything in America in the 20th Century slowly moving toward communism instead of having a revolution.

I am sick of paying health insurance CEO's millions of $$ - nm

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Really, what is the purpose of insurance companies? - deny care and get rich - NM

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Even if these CEO's were gone we'd still be paying - more. We no longer have health insurance

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as it used to be. It was based on risk and it's not now. We are paying subsidies and taxes.

A free market economy doesn't always contain greed, but - it relies on competition to contain it.

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If you don't like one you can shop around.

Regulations plus lawyers keep the competition out.

A free market economy doesn't always contain greed, it relies - on competition to contain it.
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A profound truth that needs to be repeated over and over....thank you.

Like the cost of EpiPen and Hillary's buds. - NM

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NM

Pretty much everyone with employer coverage is seeing - rates rise and detuctibles

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skyrocket.

do you recall before ObamaCare? - Rates were rising

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We need to get rid of the health insurance middle man. Makes more sense than bankrupting the middle class.

Look at the responses to this post by those who are for single payer. - Instead of sticking to the point of

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who is REALLY paying for their subsidies, they resort class envy.

Single payer means total control. The plan all along. - NM

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To summarize, it costs us a lot more money for uncle Sam - to subsidize others.

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Now I have a lot less choice, my out of pocket costs have soared and these people want to complain even more!

The best part is; I have the luxury of being taxed to pay for this not once, but twice... Once when I pay my federal taxes and once when I get taxed on my supposed “Cadillac” health plan.

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