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All right! We're moving forward with federally sponsored nationwide health insurance plans


Posted: Oct 29, 2012

Under the Obama administration, these federal-muscle big boys will be offered through the exchanges in all 50 states, not supplanting other insurances offered but COMPETING with them. 

For people against abortion, note that "The new health care law stipulates that at least one of the multistate plans must provide insurance without coverage of abortion services. If a plan does cover abortions, it must establish separate accounts, one with money for abortion and one for all other medical services." 

Also, at least one plan must be offered by a "non-profit entity." This is big for me as I'm both morally and practically opposed to profiteers benefiting both from my illnesses and from my death--depending. It's not a public option, technically, but it does get the profit motive out of the healthcare of those who choose it.

Those people who don't like any of these are free to purchase private insurance directly or through employers as now, but they should also benefit from the effects of price competition. 

BUT, note that Romney would kill this immediately if he were elected.


The New York Times


October 27, 2012

U.S. Set to Sponsor Health Insurance

 

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration will soon take on a new role as the sponsor of at least two nationwide health insurance plans to be operated under contract with the federal government and offered to consumers in every state.

These multistate plans were included in President Obama’s health care law as a substitute for a pure government-run health insurance program — the public option sought by many liberal Democrats and reviled by Republicans. Supporters of the national plans say they will increase competition in state health insurance markets, many of which are dominated by a handful of companies.

The national plans will compete directly with other private insurers and may have some significant advantages, including a federal seal of approval. Premiums and benefits for the multistate insurance plans will be negotiated by the United States Office of Personnel Management, the agency that arranges health benefits for federal employees.

Walton J. Francis, the author of a consumer guide to health plans for federal employees, said the personnel agency had been “extraordinarily successful” in managing that program, which has more than 200 health plans, including about 20 offered nationwide. The personnel agency has earned high marks for its ability to secure good terms for federal workers through negotiation rather than heavy-handed regulation of insurers.

John J. O’Brien, the director of health care and insurance at the agency, said the new plans would be offered to individuals and small employers through the insurance exchanges being set up in every state under the 2010 health care law.

No one knows how many people will sign up for the government-sponsored plans. In preparing cost estimates, the Obama administration told insurers to assume that each national plan would have 750,000 people enrolled in the first year.

Under the Affordable Care Act, at least one of the nationwide plans must be offered by a nonprofit entity. Insurance experts see an obvious candidate for that role: the Government Employees Health Association, a nonprofit group that covers more than 900,000 federal employees, retirees and dependents, making it the second-largest plan for federal workers, after the Blue Cross and Blue Shield program.

The association, with headquarters near Kansas City, Mo., was founded in 1937 to help railway mail clerks with their medical expenses, and it generally receives high scores in surveys of consumer satisfaction.

Richard G. Miles, the association’s president, expressed interest in offering a multistate plan to the general public through insurance exchanges, but said no decision had been made.

“Our expertise in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program would be useful in the private marketplace,” Mr. Miles said in an interview. “But we are concerned about the underwriting risk in providing insurance to an unknown group of customers.”

To be eligible to participate in the multistate program, insurers must be licensed in every state. The Government Employees Health Association recently bought a company that has the licenses it would need.

The new health care law stipulates that at least one of the multistate plans must provide insurance without coverage of abortion services. If a plan does cover abortions, it must establish separate accounts, one with money for abortion and one for all other medical services.

National insurance plans will be subject to regulation by the federal government, state insurance commissioners and state insurance exchanges. That mix could cause confusion for some consumers who have questions or complaints about their coverage.

The federal standards will pre-empt state rules in at least one respect: the national health plans will automatically be eligible to compete against other private insurers in the new exchanges, regardless of whether they have been certified as meeting the standards of those exchanges.

The administration has promised to “work cooperatively with states.” But it is unclear whether the government-sponsored plans will have to comply with all state laws and consumer protection standards; whether they will have to comply with state benefit mandates; and whether they will have to pay state fees and taxes levied on other insurers to finance exchange operations.

The National Association of Insurance Commissioners, which represents state regulators, expressed alarm at the prospect of a double standard.

“It is absolutely essential that multistate plans compete on a level playing field with other qualified health plans, which are subject to state insurance law,” the association said in a letter to the Office of Personnel Management.

Consumer groups expressed similar concerns. The national insurance plans and other carriers must be subject to identical standards, they say, or consumers cannot make valid comparisons.

“Multistate plans have real potential benefits for consumers,” said Ronald F. Pollack, the executive director of Families USA, a liberal-leaning consumer group. “But there is also potential trouble if the multistate plans are exempted from some consumer protection standards.”

Robert E. Moffit, a senior fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said he worried that “the nationwide health plans, operating under terms and conditions set by the federal government, will become the robust public option that liberals always wanted.”

Insurers are pleading with the Office of Personnel Management to provide more detailed guidance.

“We are concerned that O.P.M. has not yet released rules specifying the requirements for the multistate plan,” said Jay A. Warmuth, a lawyer at UnitedHealth Group, one of the nation’s largest insurers.

Rules for the new program have been under review by the White House for three months, and officials said they would be issued soon.

 

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While you're reading the NY Times, shoot off a - letter to the editor.

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Ask them why, if they know so much about everything, they can't run their own business profitably. This rag is one more canceled subscription away from bankruptcy.

I can't wait. My insurance costs a fortune and doesn't even kick in - until several thousand dollars of bills are SM

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run up. Then the bills would continue to pile up horribly because of all the partial coverages. Right now the question isn't whether an illness would bankrupt us but how small an illness it would take to do it.

Health insurance - Anonymous

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How do you know this plan will be any better? The "government," otherwise known as the taxpayers, does not have unlimited funds to subsidize health care, and costs continue to increase. We are the ones who will ultimately pay, either in higher taxes or a decrease in the quality of our care. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
I agree.... - anon
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I get the impression that many of the Obama supporters are only supporting him because of the proposed Obamacare and in thinking that it will "eliminate" their out of pocket cost of health insurance. That is just not the case at all. You won't be getting "free health care," by any means. You will be taxed dearly for it and probably above and beyond what you are now paying for your own private insurance. There are also things included in this Obamacare "bill" that nobody has come forth and told the public about...."sign it first and we will discuss these 'things' later." That right there says that something evil is up with this bill that they don't want the public to know about. You never get something for "free" in this life, and health care falls right into that category. You all are being duped and just are too blind by hoping to not have to pay for your health care to see it. you will be sorry! trust me on that one.
NOTHING is free. The bill just comes from someone else. BUT - the free ride is OVER for many. A dem.
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govt healthcare - take off the rose-colored glasses
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Helloooooo!! Govt-run healthcare has 2000+ pages! Govt-run "anything" pretty much fails. The post office is a great start. Social Security is about broke. My insurance premiums went up $40/month when Obamacare passed. There is TONS more negative than positive. Romney will repeal and REPLACE this law..he will leave the "good" in place, such as preexisting conditions. Did you not know 50% of docs will not accept Medicare once this goes into full effect?? Our elderly will be considered "not cost effective" to take care of??? Small businesses are not hiring and many large businesses are putting the people on PART TIME because of health care costs??? There is a BETTER way- Obama and his arrogance has ruined so much...so much...it's sad
Look at the post office - x
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The post office receives billions of taxpayer dollars to make up the cost of providing their services. What happens if the federal health insurance plan can't cover it's cost? Either the premiums will have to go up, or more likely we the taxpayer will subsidize it.
TOTALLY INCORRECT. The Postal Service is self supporting, - ONLY going broke through corruption. SM!
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Business and our elected "representatives" are engaged in a plot to destroy the Postal Service so that private industry can take over all delivery services. There are BIG, BIG, BIG profits in mail delivery if they can get hold of it.

The PS has been hamstrung by corrupt laws keeping it from some kinds of profitable deliveries. Deliveries that it used to do but are now reserved by LAW for private delivery services. The Postal Service is NOT allowed to do them specifically BECAUSE it can do them CHEAPER.

This not only FUNNELS PROFITS TO BUSINESSES who charge MORE, but it's endangering the future of the Postal Service established by the Second Continental Congress. By design.

You've been warned before. If you like having your mail delivered to your door for 47 cents, you'd better keep business's greedy hands off it. They know you'll pay $5 to send Aunt May's birthday card to a drive-up kiosk at the entry to her neighborhood.

As for destroying jobs and traditional ways? The USPS was established in the 18th Century by the Second Continental Congress and has been serving us well ever since. If we screw this up, though, within a decade we'll be explaining to our grandchildren what a mailman was.
There is SO MUCH AT STAKE. - BE SURE TO VOTE! nm
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Don't forget the billions of $$ they are forced to pay THE GOVERNMENT EVERY YEAR - Truthhurts
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A GOOD VOTER TURNOUT will hurt too. - nm
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Wrong - Union wages, benefits, and retirement benefits are bankrupting it - x
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The same thing that happened to GM.

So what if they can't do "profitable" deliveries. They should have adjusted and did what they needed to do to at least break even.

And you truly believe the same thing won't happen to Obamacare?
Swallowing these lies is going to cost you bad, but only - if we can't save you along with ourselves.nm
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Future post retirement benefits in any union shop is MASSIVE - x
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Post retirement benefits in NY state for school districts is over $100 billion dollars. That is double the current budgets for NY state school districts.

In the early 1900's, the active to retired teachers was 16 to 1. Right now it is 2 to 1.

With the number of retirees versus new employees, these benefits are unsustainable. These are not lies but facts. Retirement benefits for union shops are a ticking time bomb.

Tell me where you are getting your misinformation?
You're right - too many people misunderstand insurance. - ZvilleMT
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Just because you have insurance does not mean everything will be paid for. You'll still have a copay for office visits, prescriptions, etc., there will be things that will not be covered completely (and then you'll still be responsible for the rest), and there will be things that will be flat-out denied. My SIL has Medicare and is on disability - she's been turned down for several surgeries that may have helped her chronic pain and some of her pain medications have been denied. Anyone who thinks the government is going to run insurance any better or more efficient than insurance companies is going to get a really big wake up call if this goes through.
I worked in insurance for a decade. You could be more efficient than many companies - and give better service by falling off a rock.sm
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Did your experience teach you about MANDATORY THREE- AND FOUR-MONTH BACKLOGS on paying bills, with the concomitant lying that requires when frantic patients call in because their kitchens tables are covered with stacks of unpaid bills, they're being inundated with demands by collection agencies and their credit ratings have taken a dive? When a company tells you it hasn't received a bill yet, you can assume it's lying. Because it is. When they tell you they "haven't been able to review it yet," they're lying. The bill is sitting in the clerk's file storage until the specified date comes along when she or he is allowed to pull it up.

Or DELIBERATE DELAYS in approving coverages as long as possible so that physicians and facilities hold off services waiting for okays--while your cancer advances? We're NOT talking unusual here, but standard practice at many of the largest companies. Not only does this mean some undesirably ill people will actually die sooner, running up fewer bills first, but ALSO the money stays in the insurer's hands longer gathering income from investments--an important device for maximizing profit margins.

Mining the files for a single word that can be manipulated by a department full of staff attorneys into an excuse to deny coveraqe is a standard practice at many companies when someone comes down with something expensive. Obamacare made it much harder to cancel a policy-for NOW (until Romney cancels it) it actually has to be for cause and is far less common--but many companies still grab any chance to cancel if they can. Do NOT forget to list something you forgot all about about 15 years ago on an application. It could take a fortune in legal costs to prove that the one condition then had nothing to do with your problems now, if you were successful. But many are not, and most people give up long before the first attorney's hired anyway.

And on and on and on. Companies have worked continually for as long as health insurance has existed to find ways to maximize their profits over the wellbeing of their insureds. That's why I despise these people and want them OUT of my healthcare.
We need to take the profit motive out of healthcare. - anon
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It's criminal.
It's certainly intrinsically immoral. Healthcare didn't use to - be packaged for corporate profit. This is new.nm
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Not saying that insurance companies are efficient... - ZvilleMT
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or even fair. My point was that the government isn't going to be any better - have you seen the stuff they waste money on every day? Sometimes they don't even know where the money is going! And I've seen first-hand with my SIL how quickly they pay doctor bills - she has had to cancel numerous appointments with her neurologist and primary care because Medicare hasn't paid her previous bills yet and they won't see her until payments are caught up. Everything you see with private insurance is going to be the same with the government, maybe worse - the only difference is you may not be getting a bill for the premiums.
I agree any organization people are involved with can be too - stupid to support, but what does that leave? :)
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Again, though, show me a federal employee who'd trade his or her insurance for hwat MTs are getting through the deals MTSO make with other corporations. There aren't ANY (mentally competent, anyway), and that's because they're getting a much better deal.
Do you even think it might be because they have monopolies within each state - y
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I can't buy insurance out of state, so I am chained to insurance companies within my state. Can't you even concede that competition might correct some of these problems. Once Ma Bell broke up, long-distance prices plummeted. Yeah, there were bumps in the road but look at long-distance rates now in comparison.

Now, really! :) Just TRY to find government employees who'd trade theirs for - the typical MT's. But you get to

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knee-jerk reject the insurance, same as the information in the link. Your choice. All options left open for all of us.

I work for the state and our health insurance is purchased from a private company - x

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I am not sure if that is how it works for the federal government
X, we would also contract out the for-profit plans to private companies, but the - nonprofit option (yay!) would be government-run.nm
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Why didn't they just come up with a government run plan then - x
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instead of this monstrosity "Obamacare" forcing people to buy insurance or pay a penalty? And when I say that, it should be self-sufficient with no taxpayer subsidies.

I don't know why you have so much faith in government when they can't even pass a budget they are required by law to pass.

I really appreciate the options for people who are opposed - to abortion. nm

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