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Why do poor people vote against their own self-interest

Posted: May 29, 2017

A very good insightful article to read.

http://www.stirjournal.com/2016/04/01/i-know-why-poor-whites-chant-trump-trump-trump/

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I think the wealthy elites are the people who - mt

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funded Hillary's campaign and also Obama's, such as Wall St. The dems are really the party of the wealthy elite.

I think you may have only skimmed the article - and grabbed the points

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that you wanted to see. I read every word of the article and say what I have said all along. They are all "wealthy elites," including Trump. It sounds like you are one of the ones who doesn't fully grasp what has been going on for centuries in this country.

I thought the article was spot on and until people fully grasp what has and is going on, nothing will change.

I saw the elite "celebrities" fund and support Hillary - who I now avoid including Madonna and Meryl Streep

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Hillary was speaking at high-end celebrity fund raiser when she called half of Trump supporters a basket of deplorables.

"Hillary Clinton sparked a controversy Friday night after suggesting half of Donald Trump’s supporters belonged in “a basket of deplorables” which she described as consisting of “the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic – you name it.”

She went to note “some of those folks – they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America”.

In the remarks, at a New York fundraiser featuring Barbra Streisand, Clinton went further than she ever had in the past in suggesting that potentially half of Trump’s supporters were bigoted."

I agree to a degree - but....

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Wealthy elites include not just politicians. If you read the article, the guy from Tyson was also included (just one example). The wealthy in general play on all of us. Donald Trump did listen to those who voted for him and played on that. Hillary did listen to certain groups and played on them. I think many of the celebrities were also fooled by Hillary's message. My opinion anyway.

I am not saying many of them are not wealthy elitists but many of them came from the same backgrounds as we did and are involved in helping things like poverty, child abuse, domestic violence, etc. and I think many of them were also fooled by Hillary playing on those issues. But, they are not the ones that are making laws or buying laws to support their causes. If that makes sense.

Those protests in the streets should be all of us standing together, white, black, legal immigrants, Christian, Muslim, atheist, gay, transgender, straight, and we all should be protesting the injustice that the wealthy elitists have been forcing on us and using us to turn on each other.

I avoid Clint Eastwood, Chuck Norris, Ted Nugent, Tim Allen, Scott Baio - deplorable.

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There are definitely a lot of deplorables out there.

Deplorable for a political view that differs - from yours?

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Now that's deplorable.

Long but worth reading. For those that don't make it...sm - VTMT

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to the end, here are the final few paragraphs.

“The Revolution is coming and it is a very beautiful revolution.”

“There must be better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.”

One of these quotes is from Martin Luther King Jr. in 1966; the other is from Bernie Sanders in 1969.

Bernie Sanders was born into a working-class home. His father dropped out of high school and supported the family as a paint salesman after coming to the U.S. from Poland and struggling through the Great Depression. Later, after the war, they would find out most of his family died in the Holocaust. From this, Bernie Sanders learned a life lesson, “An election in 1932 ended up killing 50 million people around the world.”

By the time Bernie graduated from college, he was alone. His brother had moved to England for work, and both of his parents had died. He moved to Vermont and held a variety of low-wage jobs, spending many of the following years broke. He is quoted in a New Yorker article as saying, “I do know what it’s like when the electric company shuts off the electricity and the phone company shuts off the phone — all that stuff. So, for me, to talk to working-class people is not very hard.”

He bootstrapped his way into politics and has remained loyal to the poor and working class for more than thirty years. He is not a millionaire. He has not built a fortune from his position holding office. He doesn’t make money by keeping others poor or sending them to war. He doesn’t gain power by keeping people silent. Donald Trump would have you believe Sanders is a “loser” for not taking financial advantage of his position. I prefer to call him one of our own.

Bernie Sanders doesn’t say that if you are poor, it’s your own damn fault. He says if you are poor, take my hand. Together we can lift you up. His campaign isn’t about freebies or handouts. It’s about opportunity. It’s about believing that, given a chance and an even playing field, the poor and working class can achieve their dreams. He knows this because he has lived it.

Sanders’ revolution is about lifting the hand of oppression so we can all move forward in equality. It is about everyone having the same opportunity to paint their walls in shades of possibility.

When we have been pushed down for so long, it can become impossible to see whose hands are keeping us there. Is it really welfare queens or immigrant laborers or Muslims, as Trump claims? I say no, because those people have so little power. Maybe the answer lies not in looking up, but in looking sideways and recognizing that our poor neighbors, who may be different than us, are struggling too. Maybe if we all look up together, we can see more clearly that the hand of oppression belongs only to those who have always had money, power, and control. Those are the real enemies.

The real enemies fear us. They know that if we come together, we will have the numbers on our side. They’ve always known this and it terrifies them. We must stop doing what they want: fighting among ourselves and allowing ourselves to be held down by their fear. We must direct a truly united voice against those who, four hundred years ago, created the American Dream and then held it out of reach. We must join together and fight back against the wealthy elite and corporate politicians. We must build a new country that belongs to all of us, a country where no one ever has to feel like just a poor motherfucker no one cares about.

I think the most worthwhile premise of the article - how the rich divide us

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I have often wondered why people hate immigrants so much, but why do they not hate the corporations that profit from immigrants?

I have always been totally amazed that there has not been a - MT2

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revolution in this country honestly. It may be we may see one as there are more and more demonstrators out there today than before. People are sick and tired of the BS and are starting to fight back finally.

That's the problem today, people vote for their own self - interest and not the county and it's

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founding principles. This transcends income.

This was a flagship Bernie Sanders - argument

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Except Bernie went full Democrat on us...in the end. I understand that for him personally, but not the movement. Progressive movement will live without him and keep championing these thoughts.

I think women are going to pick up the banner - against the deplorables - nm

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