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USA credit rating downgrade


Posted: Aug 8, 2011

In case you're unclear why the USA credit rating has been downgraded, Here's an understandable explanation of our problem! 

  

To most of the people this is addressed to, you already know that the USA is in trouble and you understand the magnitude of the problem.  However, this breakdown is so simple that it’s worth sending onto those in our address books who may not yet been able to put in perspective, just what is really going on.  By removing some zero’s it becomes pretty clear.  So pass it on as you see fit. 

Federal Budget 101 

The U.S. Congress sets a federal budget every year in the trillions of dollars. Few people know how much money that is so we created a breakdown of federal spending in simple terms. Let's put the 2011 federal budget into perspective:  

·   U.S. income: $2,170,000,000,000

·   Federal budget: $3,820,000,000,000

·   New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000

·   National debt: $14,271,000,000,000

·   Recent budget cut: $ 91,700,000,000 (based on news reports about 1 percent of the budget)

It helps to think about these numbers in terms that we can relate to. Let's remove eight zeros from these numbers and pretend this is the household budget for the fictitious Jones family.

·   Total annual income for the Jones family: $21,700

·   Amount of money the Jones family spent: $38,200 

·   Amount of new debt added to the credit card: $16,500 

·   Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710

·   Amount cut from the budget: $917 [based on news reports of deficit legislation]

So in effect last month Congress, or in this example the Jones family, sat down at the kitchen table and agreed to cut $917 from its annual budget. What family would cut $917 of spending in order to solve $16,500 in deficit spending for the year?

Now after years of this budget smoke and mirror game, the Jones family has $142,710 of debt on its credit card (which is the equivalent of the national debt).  They are in serious trouble but are still managing to make the monthly minimum payment to keep the card active.   You would think the Jones family would recognize and address this situation, but it does not. Neither does Congress.

In effect, what we have is a reverse mortgage on the country. The problem is that the voters have become addicted to the money. Moreover, the American voters are still in the denial stage, and do not want to face the possibility of going into rehab. 

Congress?  Well I don’t have to explain that to you.  There aren’t enough of them that are smart enough and/or courageous enough to do what needs to be done. 

This can ONLY get worse for our kids and grandkids.

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The Jones family needs to raise some revenue - by getting the rich in-laws to pay fair share.

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And the crazy old uncle Jones should quit threatening to quit paying his bills and put his guns and ammo back into the closet.

How much would be fair? 80%, 90% - I have a better idea

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Heck, why not just take 100%. After all Mr. Jones has put in 60 hour weeks because he needs the extra money cos his daughter has to now get braces. But golly gee, that's not fair that he gets the extra money, so lets just take the whole 100% of his income in taxes. After all he doesn't deserve it as he is now classified by someone as "rich". He can't afford the things he needs to provide for his family, his son with a terminal illness and daughter who needs braces, but hey, he makes $1000 a year more then the rest of us, so he's classified as rich and doesn't deserve any of it.

I have a better idea. How about redistribution of wealth of all the politicians who are trying to pass the redistribution of wealth. I'll be more than happy to redistribute, but they go first. Oh wait, I'm already redistributing my wealth because half my family is out of work and I'm helping subsidize them so they can get some food until they can get a job. But, hey, $20K a year is way too much to make that needs to be redistributed.

Understand?

Tired of the rich in-laws mooching and then bragging - sm

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They show up for dinner without bringing anything to the table. We offer them what would be best for all of us, but they insist on their caviar. They never leave a tip, borrow the car, but never fill it up, and are spending their summer in India and China. They will come home and brag about how they saved all their money cuz "the help" is so cheap there.
I'd be looking for me some new in-laws. I've - never been around rich
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people who were like that, quite the opposite. I've met the nice ones that would do anything for you, and then, I've met the ones who wanted you to know how much they have so they would never do these things just because they want you to know how much they have. Being a Republican, the scenario you mentioned there really resembles more of a liberal view. Maybe the in-laws are Democrats.
Nope. 100% Teaparty Republican - and don't like to pay their bills
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Just like the ones who sent the economy down the hole again. But they are nice to your face and smile their expensive orthodontic pearly whites while they are picking your pocket.
I think the majority of the Tea Party is financed by the - rich and look at the harm (sm)
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they've done to our country so far. Standard and Poors got it right. The entire world is looking at us and our Congress, and we certainly don't demonstrate a country to have confidence in. The Tea Party won't be happy until they've driven this country off a cliff.

I wonder why they hate America.
You have it all wrong. It is Obama and his spending - driving us off the cliff now!
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TEA Party was trying to halt his spending. S and P downgraded us because not enough cuts were made.
Not wrong. The tea party has - more than its share of wealthy.
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and the rest of the post reflects not only S&P's take on the debt deal, but also what the polls were showing in the last few days before it was passed. You simply cannot ignore the multiple paragraphs the S&P analysis devoted to revenues, tax reform and their assertion that allowing Ws tax cuts to expire is essentially a precondition to the ultimate long-term solution of the debt problem, which they specifically said they believed would be hindered/impeded by certian factions of the GOP. It seems a you need a reminder that the GOP soundly rejected Obama's larger plans (with more spending cuts).
You have to be kidding. Obama and "more spending - cuts" do not exist together.. period! nm
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$4 trillion plan included cuts to entitlements. Boehner rejected it. - No kidding! nm
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You can say the same thing about the democrats and repubicans - sm
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Both democrat and republican party is financed by the rich. AND look at the harm they've done in those parties.

You've got it wrong about the tea party. I don't know why there is such intolerable hatred for them. The country went down the tubes long before they came about. And the reason they came about is because of all the stuff you mentioned. The tea party is trying to restore balance to our government. I guess that's why they are a threat. Without the TP most of the stuff people would not know is going on

Are you for real? How pitiful. Did you see the dow - dropped 200 more pts after Obama spoke?

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What we need is a new leader who knows something about running a business. We cant spend our way out of debt.

Take from the rich to give to the poor. - hmmm

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Watch this video about taxation... You could tax high earners and large companies 100% and there wouldn't be enough money to run the US Gov't for 1 year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY8LKII_MNA

Don't be so ridiculous. It fell because of the downgrade, its - global ripple effects, deepening European debt cri

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as emergency talks about Italy's risk for default began, fears that the initial October phase of US federal spending cuts would weaken the recovery, China's out-of-control inflationary spiral, etc., not to mention a 48-hour media marathon of breathless fearful speculation over the effect of the downgrade, aimed a spiking a fleeting ratings boost.

Stupid political hay-making statements such as yours only aggravate the divisions cited by S&P that plague Congress as they approach these issues, and ultimately pols end up losing sight of what's good for the country. Instead, they transform bill after bill after bill into 2012 campaign bargaining chips, since it's much easier to play to the base rather than tackle the problems at hand in earnest.

I think the entire country is sick and tired of watching the school-yard-bully delegation run amok setting random widespread wildfires, then loitering on the sidelines in their various gang turf locales, jumping up and down, pointing fingers at the president. This juvenile tactic not only is getting older than old, but it now is having economically devastating fall-out that reaches far beyond the parochial fringes where the instigators dwell. Do not think for a moment that the underpinning ignorance that launches such rhetorical missiles escapes the notice of the electorate-at-large who realize the depth and scope of the economic crisis, its origins, causes and effects. Perhaps the most asinine notion of them all is the one that expects us to believe that Obama is the root of all evil and single-handedly caused the market to nosedive simply by opening his mouth. Beyond absurd.


http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2011/0804/Stocks-plunge-four-factors-behind-investor-pessimism/China-remains-locked-in-a-struggle-to-subdue-inflation
Wow...touchy about Obama, huh? - sm
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It is fact that it dropped only moments after Obama gave his speech. It may not have been him, but I must say these speeches he gives over and over again without any real solution to our economic problems does not give many Americans any real hope for change here. All I hear when he speaks is that he wants more spending but it isn't his fault.

Obama is part of the problem here....whether some of you like to admit it or not. Bush was part of the problem as well. Both republicans and democrats are to blame for our current situation.

When our credit rating was downgraded, it was a combination of raising our debt ceiling this last time with our lack of spending cuts and the need to generate for tax revenue....it doesn't help matters when our president merely states he wants to spend more money. I say NO to extending unemployment. I also say YES to raising more tax revenue but doing it by lowering the tax rate and closing loopholes. That will bring in more revenue.

And even if we raised taxes and made the rich pay more...do you really think that would keep our government from spending more than we bring in? If you do you are seriously delusional. The more money taxpayers pay...the more money this administration is gonna spend.

I just don't understand why so many of you get your panties in a twist at the very mention of Obama having some fault in this....because he does. He shouldn't get all the blame but he shouldn't get a free pass like some of you are trying to give him.
Huh? - sm
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You wrote: "I also say YES to raising more tax revenue but doing it by lowering the tax rate and closing loopholes. That will bring in more revenue."

I don't understand how more TAX REVENUE can result from LOWERING the tax rate. Please explain what you mean.

However, the Republicans stubbornly refuse to raise taxes on the richest in this country. Perhaps they themselves are so wealthy it wouldn't be in their best interests to do so.

As far as loopholes, the Republicans have never seen a loophole they didn't love.

As far as Obama is concerned, he SHOULD present his own plan and go into it in a lot of detail.

But as far as those who are BAD for our country and our citizens, that would be Republicans in general and Tea Partiers in particular.

Presumptions - sm
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in this post have you arguing with yourself. The OP did not say Obama should get a free pass. It talked about the real reasons the stock market fell and made points about the GOP and tea party's exasperating behaviors that are shared by many. It criticized the results of their policies the rest of us are having to deal with.

It is a fact that the market had been in free fall since the opening bell hours before the speech. I watched the coverage all day. The speech did not affect it one way or the other. It just kept on doing what it had been doing all day.

It is wrong to say the speech made the market go down. I totally agree with the OP who said as much. That is not the same thing as saying Obama does not share responsibility. Your post is based on a false premise.
There is that certain population that tries to get a faux sound byte - sm
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or some kind of subliminal message out by doing a drive-by lie. Same kind of person who sends out those ignorant e-mails that are so easily debunked. Koch brother minions.

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