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Some Bin Laden/Terror Attack Info-scary


Posted: Dec 30, 2009

Ran across this article a couple minutes ago. There is much, much more in this report that I did not include here, including about Islam. Bin Laden's world view. the rise of Bin Laden and Al Queda, building the organization and declaring war on the U.S., and some attacks that have taken place.

Now, a question: IF HE DECLARED WAR ON THE U.S., SHOULDN'T WE DO THE SAME (declare war on him)? We are fighting without a definite declaration and so, our hands are tied with what we can and can't do.

THE FOUNDATION OF THE NEW TERRORISM

 

2.1 A DECLARATION OF WAR

In February 1998, the 40-year-old Saudi exile Usama Bin Ladin and a fugitive Egyptian physician, Ayman al Zawahiri, arranged from their Afghan headquarters for an Arabic newspaper in London to publish what they termed a fatwa issued in the name of a "World Islamic Front." A fatwa is normally an interpretation of Islamic law by a respected Islamic authority, but neither Bin Ladin, Zawahiri, nor the three others who signed this statement were scholars of Islamic law. Claiming that America had declared war against God and his messenger, they called for the murder of any American, anywhere on earth, as the "individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it."1

Three months later, when interviewed in Afghanistan by ABC-TV, Bin Ladin enlarged on these themes.2 He claimed it was more important for Muslims to kill Americans than to kill other infidels. "It is far better for anyone to kill a single American soldier than to squander his efforts on other activities," he said. Asked whether he approved of terrorism and of attacks on civilians, he replied: "We believe that the worst thieves in the world today and the worst terrorists are the Americans. Nothing could stop you except perhaps retaliation in kind. We do not have to differentiate between military or civilian. As far as we are concerned, they are all targets."

Note: Islamic names often do not follow the Western practice of the consistent use of surnames. Given the variety of names we mention, we chose to refer to individuals by the last word in the names by which they are known: Nawaf al Hazmi as Hazmi, for instance, omitting the article "al" that would be part of their name in their own societies. We generally make an exception for the more familiar English usage of "Bin" as part of a last name, as in Bin Ladin. Further, there is no universally accepted way to transliterate Arabic words and names into English. We have relied on a mix of common sense, the sound of the name in Arabic, and common usage in source materials, the press, or government documents. When we quote from a source document, we use its transliteration, e.g ,"al Qida" instead of al Qaeda.

Though novel for its open endorsement of indiscriminate killing, Bin Ladin's 1998 declaration was only the latest in the long series of his public and private calls since 1992 that singled out the United States for attack.

In August 1996, Bin Ladin had issued his own self-styled fatwa calling on Muslims to drive American soldiers out of Saudi Arabia. The long, disjointed document condemned the Saudi monarchy for allowing the presence of an army of infidels in a land with the sites most sacred to Islam, and celebrated recent suicide bombings of American military facilities in the Kingdom. It praised the 1983 suicide bombing in Beirut that killed 241 U.S. Marines, the 1992 bombing in Aden, and especially the 1993 firefight in Somalia after which the United States "left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you."3

Bin Ladin said in his ABC interview that he and his followers had been preparing in Somalia for another long struggle, like that against the Soviets in Afghanistan, but "the United States rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace." Citing the Soviet army's withdrawal from Afghanistan as proof that a ragged army of dedicated Muslims could overcome a superpower, he told the interviewer: "We are certain that we shall-with the grace of Allah-prevail over the Americans." He went on to warn that "If the present injustice continues . . . , it will inevitably move the battle to American soil."4

Plans to attack the United States were developed with unwavering single-mindedness throughout the 1990s. Bin Ladin saw himself as called "to follow in the footsteps of the Messenger and to communicate his message to all nations,"5 and to serve as the rallying point and organizer of a new kind of war to destroy America and bring the world to Islam.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2.2 BIN LADIN'S APPEAL IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD

It is the story of eccentric and violent ideas sprouting in the fertile ground of political and social turmoil. It is the story of an organization poised to seize its historical moment. How did Bin Ladin-with his call for the indiscriminate killing of Americans-win thousands of followers and some degree of approval from millions more?

The history, culture, and body of beliefs from which Bin Ladin has shaped and spread his message are largely unknown to many Americans. Seizing on symbols of Islam's past greatness, he promises to restore pride to people who consider themselves the victims of successive foreign masters. He uses cultural and religious allusions to the holy Qur'an and some of its interpreters. He appeals to people disoriented by cyclonic change as they confront modernity and globalization. His rhetoric selectively draws from multiple sources-Islam, history, and the region's political and economic malaise. He also stresses grievances against the United States widely shared in the Muslim world. He 

inveighed against the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam's holiest sites. He spoke of the suffering of the Iraqi people as a result of sanctions imposed after the Gulf War, and he protested U.S. support of Israel.

 

More Here:

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Ch2.htm

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War - NJ

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I think the problem is that bin Laden does not govern a country, and that makes it impossible to declare war against him. I mean, it's impossible to declare war against a person instead of a country.

Neither can we declare war against Muslims in general, although we are fighting radical Islamists and al qaeda.

I'm not sure what "declaring war" would do in terms of changing our strategies. We are going after him, al qaeda, and the Taliban now in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, he and they are able to just move across borders with seeming impunity in that part of the world. Afghanistan and Pakistan both have formidable terrain which serves him nicely.

I think we're still using drone planes to try to spot him/them and calling in air attacks. If there were a military option that would end this mess for sure, we would be using it. But, like cancer, this needed to be addressed before it metastasized. As it stands now, even if we cut out the original tumor, the cancer has spread. We don't know every place it is now in, and we probably wouldn't have the resources to deal with it if we did. We can only hope to keep it in check while we slowly eradicate it, lump by deadly lump.

Not a pretty picture to start the new year/decade.

NJ

OBL IS DEAD!/Al-CIAda - Anonymous

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FACT: Just like the Taliban, Al Queda was CREATED BY THE CIA. Open your mind enough to research it, and you will learn that this is THE TRUTH.

FACT: Osama bin Laden is DEAD. Or maybe you have some other explanation for how a guy in renal failure requiring dialysis managed to hide out in caves? Or WHY the videos of him HAD DOUBLES IN THEM?

Open your mind. Stop being a sheep and believing everything your LYING government disseminates. (EVERY government on earth LIES to its populace, not just ours.)

I'll take some proof on you post please. Show me. - Backwards Typist

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Unless you can prove a CREDIBLE source for what you posted, then YOU should do some research like most of us on this board does.

Exactly right! I would love to hear OBL is dead, but - the poster has NO idea.nm

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Please see video in link provided (from Pat Buchanan's site) - Nikki

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I'm not saying this is proof that bin Laden is dead (though, per other post, his medical condition might lead one to believe he is).


I've seen this video before, and it's always astounded me that David Frost did not follow up/confirm/clarify the incredible statement that Benazir Butto made.


To think that he's really dead and somebody doesn't want us to know it wouldn't surprise me a bit.


Again, this is from Pat Buchanan's site. He is hardly a liberal.


http://buchanan.org/blog/video-benazir-bhutto-osama-bin-laden-is-dead-3222


 


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