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Posted: Oct 7, 2012

The American Legislative Exchange Council is made up of a bunch of extremely wealthy individuals and corporations, including the Koch brothers. They've worked quietly ever since the 1970s to influence the direction of our country--not just economic but what they feel should be our moral and social direction. Now they are running candidates for President and Vice President. Romney came under their influence when he accepted ALEC's candidate Paul Ryan as his running mate, and with him their backing.

You'll recognize how ALEC's agenda has become our nation's here in this list.

"ALEC’s agenda extends into almost all areas of law. Its bills undermine
environmental regulations and deny climate change
support school privatization;
undercut health care reform
defund unions and limit their political influence
restrain legislatures’ abilities to raise revenue through taxes
mandate strict election laws that disenfranchise voters
increase incarceration to benefit the private prison industryamong many other issues."

From Bloomberg Business Week: “The American Legislative Exchange Council, a nonprofit based in Washington, brings together state legislators, companies, and advocacy groups to shape “model legislation.” The legislators then take these models back to their own states.About 1,000 times a year, according to ALEC, a state legislator introduces a bill from its library of more than 800 models. About 200 times a year, one of them becomes law. The council, in essence, makes national policy, state by state.”

From SourceWatch.org: "ALEC is a corporate bill mill. It is not just a lobby or a front group; it is much more powerful than that. Through ALEC, corporations hand state legislators their wishlists to benefit their bottom line. Corporations fund almost all of ALEC's operations. They pay for a seat on ALEC task forces where corporate lobbyists and special interest reps vote with elected officials to approve “model” bills.

The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) describes itself as the largest “membership association of state legislators,” but over 98% of its revenue comes from sources other than legislative dues, primarily from corporations and corporate foundations.[1] After the 2010 congressional midterm elections, ALEC boasted that “among those who won their elections, three of the four former state legislators newly-elected to the U.S. Senate are ALEC Alumni and 27 of the 42 former state legislators newly-elected to the U.S. House are ALEC Alumni.”

From the NY Times: “We know its mission is to bring together corporations and state legislators to draft profit-driven, anti-public-interest legislation, and then help those elected officials pass the bills in statehouses from coast to coast,” said the president of Common Cause, Bob Edgar. “If that’s not lobbying, what is?”

From Right Wing Watch: "Founded in the early 1970s to promote right-wing policies at the state level, the American Legislative Exchange Council's focus has shifted to favor the promotion of state legislation and regulation that benefits its corporate sponsors. A fact that should come as no surprise given its funding by right-wing foundations and corporate membership fees ranging from $5000 to $50,000. The council boasts a large clearinghouse of research, model bills, and legislative strategies to promote its agenda."

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I've heard this a million times before and (sm) - nm

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even read up on it quite extensively. Bottom line for me is I'd rather this then Communism. It's that simple.

ALEC has and does operate as secretly as possible and only recently have media - felt they could safely talk about it. BTW,

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you can be sure they're pretty careful about what they say still. I'm sure they know a lot they can't document well enough yet.

ITM, enough has gotten out that several large corporations are dissociating from it and the IRS may be investigating. It's always had tax-exempt status.

Those aren't necessarily bad things... - SK1

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environmental regulations and deny climate change


Overzealous environmental regulatoins are killing our economy.  And there are many credible scientists who agree that the climate change we are experiencing is a natural part of the Earth's evolutionary cycle. 


support school privatization;


I don't think school privitization is necessarily a bad thing.  Look for articles on the success of New Orleans' school system when they privitized after Katrina.


undercut health care reform


I agree that the CURRENT health care reform needs to be undercut.  We need reform, just not the way Obama has instituted it.


defund unions and limit their political influence


Unions, at their inception, were a good thing, protecting workers from unscrupulous employers.  They have since taken on a life of their own and have become big business, outside of their members.  Unreasonable union demands have put a stranglehold on American economy and, in my humble opinion, protect inferior employees and don't let superior employees excel. 


restrain legislatures’ abilities to raise revenue through taxes


Our tax system is out of control. 


mandate strict election laws that disenfranchise voters


I'm so tired of hearing about the disenfranchisement of voters. 


increase incarceration to benefit the private prison industryamong many other issues."


What does that even mean?

What a shame most of us didn't choose them for - ourselves 30 years ago instead of them.

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Tell me, which came first, the Koch brothers' and ALEC's agenda in the 1970s or ***

Public school systems are the pride of developing countries as they move from the inevitable inadequacies of each for his own. Which came first, the Koch brothers' decision that education is empowering and therefore is best limited or *** privatizing our schools is a good thing?

You're bored with worrying about voting rights. No comment.

Any healthcare reform but the system agreed upon by the Republicans and Democrats. No comment.

Defund and limit unions. They are defunded and limited, not just by ALEC's ongoing efforts since the 1970s, but by people who no longer believed in belonging to corrupted unions. At what point did *** our power to unionize needed to be killed off altogether? Before or after ALEC did in the 1970s?

Restrain our ability to raise taxes. As a way of increasing our control over our destiny? Interesting concept.

You don't know that private prison management corporations lobby "our" representatives for stricter laws and longer sentences. ***

I don't respond to snark.... - SK1

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If you wanted to have a discussion about the issues, the sarcasm wouldn't have been included. Consequently, this is the only response I'll give to your post.
But maybe you got the idea that this anti-democratic group might be - enormously corrupting and damaging? NM
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Don't know enough about it.... - SK1
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I don't have an opinion about a group that I haven't looked at independent of the articles posted decrying them. So no, I don't know that they're an anti-democratic group that might be enormously corrupting and damaging.

I spoke merely to the individual issues cited in the original post.
"27 of the 42 former state legislators newly-elected - to the U.S. House are ALEC Alumni.” !!NM
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Too bad. I was hoping you'd get mad at them. - ***. NM
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Hope I'd get mad at whom? - SK1
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ALEC? As I stated in my above post, I don't know enough about them to have an opinion.

I don't "run" with anybody. I do my own research and base my opinions and stances on what I find. I don't let other people do my thinking for me.
Posters beware - Moderator - see message
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Bullying up on posters is not tolerated. Every poster has the right to post their opinion and should be free from snarky, belittling, intimidating, or bullying.

Keep it civil.

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You don't even know what the private prison industry - sm

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is? It's outsourcing or jobs to private groups. Romney's group wants to arrest and incarcerate as many people as possible in order to keep the "prison industry" alive and well.

One of the many things that the Pubs want to privatize.

Nope, haven't looked into it. - SK1

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And I'm not afraid to admit when I don't know about something.

I hope that's a bit much to ascribe to Romney himself. He's just too oriented - to business interests, doubt actively evil. Now,

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is he a strong man who will stand up to evil and put a stop to it? I doubt that too, unfortunately. If he gets elected he'll have all he can do to get anything done, unless it's what the various hard right groups in and out of Congress want. Like Obama.

It's very interesting that Paul Weyrich, founder of ALEC, Koch - bros, and Ryan are all libertarian or

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libertarian leaning. The marriage between the social right wing and libertarianism, though, is kinda scary. Back when I was young and looking at this stuff, there was a lot more emphasis on individual civil liberties and a lot less on social engineering at a national level.

Some political scientist was saying the real divide isn't a phony - left-right but now insider-outsider. Those

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with access to power are insiders. The rest of us, regardless of party, are outsider.

OTOH, briefly, but very real, right now we as a group very much have "access" to power. Be sure to go vote.

That makes a lot of sense. - SK1

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You hear about the "extreme right" on this forum all the time, less often about the "extreme left," though I know it exists. It makes sense that the divide is both of those sides wielding their power with us stuck in the middle screaming, "help!"

SK1, I think the divide is between wealth power and - the common citizen. $$$, NM

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Oh, maybe I misunderstood. (nm) - SK1
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...and the object is to pit us one against the other... - sm

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Meanwhile, we will be so busy fighting and trying to be right that we won't notice when all our liberties are gone.
So true! Look at all the people who think stopping - "liberals" will save the country. NM
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