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PA’s strict new voter ID law lands in court


Posted: Jul 25, 2012

One of the first orders of business will be for Commonwealth Court Judge Robert Simpson to decide whether to block the law from taking effect in this year's election.  Yipppppeeeee!!!!!

Those who follow this issue will recall when PA’s state House Republican floor leader Mike Turzai boasted to constituents in a closed party meeting in June that it would allow GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney to win Pennsylvania in the fall, thus disclosing the underlying motives for introducing the measure.  Furthermore, there's no track record of fraud in the state that it would prevent, so the existence of voter fraud cannot be argued in the court hearing.

The law has the potential to disenfranchise 1 million voters who lack the required documentation to obtain the photo ID, such as 93-year-old Vivian Applewhite, one of the plaintiffs who does not drive and cannot obtain her birth certificate, required to apply for the state photo ID.   Registration of birth was not compulsory in many states in the early 1900s, especially for those born at home.  More than 8 million voters are unaware of the proposed changes. 

No matter the outcome, it would serve the interests of the state, those who the GOP seeks to prevent from voting, and the larger question of the law’s constitutionality, for the judge to place and injunction on the measure until after the election.  It would be just the right karma Turzai deserves for his zealous, overly confident declaration behind closed doors.    

http://www.islandpacket.com/2012/07/25/2146136/pas-tough-new-voter-id-law-lands.html

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If this law stands.....sm - JTBB

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(and there are several other states going through the same sort of thing) they need to have cameras at every voting site so they can capture what it looks like when legitimate citizens are turned away from the polls and not allowed to vote. Oh wait....we already know what that looks like...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwNQOWsYhw8

powerful - ctmt

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I would urge everyone who cares about America to check out this illuminating video.

Ahhhh yes, the good ole days. - Thanks for reminding me

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why I decided to become a liberal 6 years before I was old enough to vote and have been one ever since. Having grown up in the South as a teen during the 60s, those images are just as fresh in my mind today as they were 50 years ago. Unbelievable to me we are dealing with a 21st century recycled version of the poll tax. Here's hoping the judge will do the right thing and stop this dead in is tracks in Pennsylvania.

Have you ever read the book "Five Smooth Stones"? sm - VTMT

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I highly recommend it. I read it many years ago and it impressed me greatly. I recently ordered it for my Kindle so I can read it again. Those were dark times indeed. I sure hope we don't repeat the same mistakes of those years.
Not yet, but always down for a good book rec. - I'll check it out. Thanks. nm
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nm

Black panther intimidation, anyone? - Talk about voter disinfranchisement.

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Especially because they were given a pass by Holder. Voter ID had nothing to do with it.

Yes, that sure was a debacle. - Complete with batons and scowls.

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Since they got away with it last election,they will probably be out in full force this one.

Black Panthers case was WON by courts - then Holder stepped in, refused

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to allow full process. Sick of Holder. Nothing but a lap dog for Obama and both of them are so racist, it's gaggy.

The video trip down memory lane - sm

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helps put his decision in its proper perspective and (wait for it...here comes that word again) historical CONTEXT. No matter how hard the wingers try to push this notion, they will never succeed in justifying what is obviously an orchestrated effort to suppress millions of votes nationwide in an effort to prop up a weak candidate they evidently believe cannot win in a fair election.

IMO, considering how much blood has been spilled over the past 130+ years to secure voting rights for women and minorities during the suffrage and civil rights struggles, and how many lives have been lost on battlefields across the globe defending American ideals, they ought to be ashamed of themselves. There is nothing patriotic about voter suppression.

Obama racist? sm - JTBB

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So, Obama is racist against himself? LOLOLOL...which part is the bad part?

no, actually, it was not - ctmt

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" A criminal investigation into the incident was dropped by the Bush administration, but the Justice Department under President Obama obtained a narrower civil court order against the conduct than Bush officials had sought."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/us/26panther.html?_r=2
Wrong as usual - It was for Obama 2008 election
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New Flash - Obama ran against McCain, not Bush. That was the Black Panther case being referred to. Can Google it to bring info/post up to speed and stay on topic.
like, did you really think this through? - ctmt
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Mr. Bush was the president at the time of the 2008 elections. I posted a reference for you. You are a click away from being up to speed.
Like Uhhh did you..no - Holder was the issue- keep up now dear
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Go to your search bar, use search engine of your choice. Enter Holder + Black Panthers, Black Panthers + Holder, or any combination thereof. Lo and behold, thanks to Gore, another delusional Dem, inventing the Internet, you can read the actual case info, the liberal blogs or continue to invoke Bush. Due to untreated Bush Derangement Syndrome, outcome is predictable.

So how many Black Panthers live in Pennsylvania? - Just curious. nm

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Good question -- could be googled, I suppose. - If none, they could be trucked in.

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Should anyone try that defense in front of the PA judge, - they'd be lucky
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if they were only laughed out the door. He just might them in contempt, but it is par for the course when it comes to GOP lame excuses for trying to throw the election.
Only elections "thrown " in Pa were by Dems - Contemptible indeed, but typical Dems
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O won PA by 11% in 2008. Last time they went for GOP prez - was in 1988
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and that republican by today's standards would be considered borderline socialist. Are you suggesting the dems threw ALL those elections? Silly rabbit.
Romney gaining in PA - Imperial Wizard - lost double digit, within biting distance now
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Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Romney (R) Spread
RCP Average 6/19 - 7/23 -- 47.3 41.5 Obama +5.8
PPP (D) 7/21 - 7/23 758 RV 49 43 Obama +6
Rasmussen Reports 7/18 - 7/18 500 LV 48 44 Obama +4
WeAskAmerica 7/9 - 7/10 1227 LV 47 40 Obama +7
Quinnipiac 6/19 - 6/25 1252 RV 45 39 Obama +6
Evidently not enough for state GOP pols - to take a chance on
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a fair election sans voter supression. I'm content to wait and see what happens with the court case and look at concete results in November.

When reading about PA's presidential election history, I paid attention to which GOP candidates they did go for prior to 1988 and which ones they rejected. They don't ever support winger types, which means that if the Romney camp is deluded enough to think they are going to close that gap, they will have to either take a sharp turn toward the center into RINO "socialist" territory or suppress millions of votes by finding a judge they can bribe between now and then so Turzai's measure can work its magic. They obviously realize traditional campaign strategies such as running on the candidate's leadership skills, policy issues and party platform can't get him past go, let alone anywhere near the finish line.
BPs trucked in to disrupt, threaten in Pa - Would not be the first time
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Plenty - Do you know how to Google - You will find all the org. info

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you so desperately seek from others.
Not into wild goose chases. PA courts will require - something a bit more concrete
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than wild rants coming from the finge hinterlands.
let me google that for you... - ctmt
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=there+is+no+new+black+panther+party

Voter suppresion of .....sm - JTBB

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millions versus a few uneducated white folks who are scared cuz "them blacks are gonna get us" don't really add up.

Wondering... - kp

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Does one need picture ID to request an absentee ballot? Our state is vote by mail only and I never have to show ID to vote.

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