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For those happy with PA's Voter ID ON HOLD-----


Posted: Oct 2, 2012

Maybe you all should just read the requirements for photo ID posted on the PA web site.

BTW, PA had also advertised that they would pick people up and take them to DMV Centers if they had no transportation or money.

There is no such thing as a poll tax in the PA voter ID law. It's free. Facts are facts.

 

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I heard a report that it - wasn't just...(sm)

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....the inconvenience (or, for some people, the great difficulty) of getting to the DMV to get the I.D. For some people, if they don't have their original driver's licenses and they are extremely poor, even the cost of obtaining a copy of their birth certificate is a burden for them. It probably depends on the state of your birth, but for one person, they said they would be very hard pressed to come up with the $27 it costs them to get the copy of their birth certificate so they could then get the I.D. So, even if the state advertises that they will pick you up and take you to the DMV, that's only part of the problem for some.

I bet there are more than a few MTs on this site who can understand the issue of finding an extra $27 (or whatever their state's cost) for something other than a life-sustaining necessity.

"...their original driver's licenses" ??? - (sm)

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Sorry...don't know where THAT came from in my last post (LOL). I meant to say (and in my HEAD I was typing) "...their original birth certificates...." That makes a whole lot of difference in what I was trying to convey. :-(

I swear -- this job has left me missing a little piece of my brain! :-D

Guess you didn't bother to read how to obtain voter ID in PA - backwards typist

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You're listening again, not reading. The STATE OF PA put up the rules of the link I posted.

Sorry, I know your OP was - regarding PA....(sm)

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....and I was speaking about the problem, in general, for some people to obtain an original birth certificate, which applies in some other states.

I do see, in the link you posted, the state's process for obtaining the I.D. for voting purposes only, which doesn't require a birth certificate. It still sounds like it will be a fairly time-consuming process, though (the applicant waits while the agency CALLS to confirm them....on EACH applicant!?), and one which I can imagine a lot of really elderly citizens would have trouble conducting. If you don't think so, you don't know some of the very elderly citizens I've seen and known!

It appears that maybe the possibility of voter restriction (or making it next-to-impossible for some people to vote) has been resolved for the state of PA; and for that, I'm very, very appreciative. If the officials want to be sure they don't appear to be playing politics, things like this (voter I.D. requirements) need to be put into place right AFTER a huge election....not just before.
Okay, thought you were just talking about PA. - backwards typist
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I think what they might do is set up some sort of 'phone bank' where there are a lot of people who would make calls.

This is pretty new and they have been tweaking it all along, so they may come up with a better way after election. I think that's one of the reasons the judge put a hold on it.

Other states are watching PA and may implement the same type of rules if this takes effect. PA's ID rules are the toughest in the nation.

BTW, the judge states the law is constitutional and is upheld. - backwards typist

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The only reason he's putting it on hold is because he thought there would be more IDs completed by this time.

It is not outlawed, just can't be done for this election.

I thought the judge originally - upheld the law,

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then the PA Supreme Court sent it back to the judge to rewrite it. Now the time issue is in play, though originally it was upheld in plenty of time to be implemented before the election. Did I misunderstand?
I don't know about rewriting it. I just heard that it didn't belong in the Supreme Court. - backwards typist
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Maybe they were to rewrite part of the ways to obtain proof of citizenship and maybe that's why they kept tweaking it up to now.

I guess all we can do is watch and wait to see the final outcome.

If only the judge had known all this. - Dang! Keep trying, BW. NM

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Do they pay you for your work time you have to take off? - ? nm

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I heard address has to match, so if you are divorced - Hang to your rights!

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or separated, or for some reason your name or address has changed, you might not be able to vote. I guess homeless people will lose their rights too because they don't have a permanent address.

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