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Officials say Al-Qaida Making a Comeback
Posted: Oct 10, 2012
Obama claims the Iraq war is over and is proud that our troops are out of there. Military officials had stated it was too soon, Iraq was not ready to completely take over and protect their country from Al Qaida but Obama didn't listen. Now we have this:
BAGHDAD — Al-Qaida is rebuilding in Iraq and has set up training camps for insurgents in the nation's western deserts as the extremist group seizes on regional instability and government security failures to regain strength, officials say.
Iraq has seen a jump in al-Qaida attacks over the last 10 weeks, and officials believe most of the fighters are former prisoners who have either escaped from jail or were released by Iraqi authorities for lack of evidence after the U.S. military withdrawal last December. Many are said to be Saudi or from Sunni-dominated Gulf states.
During the war and its aftermath, U.S. forces, joined by allied Sunni groups and later by Iraqi counterterror forces, managed to beat back al-Qaida's Iraqi branch.
But now, Iraqi and U.S. officials say, the insurgent group has more than doubled in numbers from a year ago — from about 1,000 to 2,500 fighters. And it is carrying out an average of 140 attacks each week across Iraq, up from 75 attacks each week earlier this year, according to Pentagon data.
"AQI is coming back," U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina, declared in an interview last month while visiting Baghdad.
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We killed or "neutralized" approximately 90%. Of - course it's not dead. The only way to limit
[ In Reply To ..]the growth of vicious fringe elements is to stabilize a nation and make the people in it happy and secure. Then they take of the troublemakers
Sad fact it, the more scared and unhappy a people get, the more conservative and self protective they all become. BUT a large portion, already good at resentment and bigotry, also become very angry and mean and look for enemies to blame and attack. They can also pretty much be counted on to fixate on whoever they hated before, not their real problems.
Look at a couple of people here who've decided Obama is the cause of all our problems and would like to see him dead. The big difference between them and the sort who join Al-Quaida is between hot air and action.
Sorry, I must have missed the poster that wished Obama dead. - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]Not familiar with anyone wishing Obama dead, just wished he'd go back to Chicago, Hawaii, or wherever he wants to go...except another stint in the White House.
What makes - you
[ In Reply To ..]think Obama or anybody is going to change those people over there. They have been fighting for thousands of years and anyone who thinks we are going to stop that is wrong. We should have never invaded Iraq in the first place. This is one of those useless wars like Vietnam was and we should bring our troops home. Do you think we should be at a constant war with these people? If we managed to wipe them all out, there would be more. We have a lot of things we need to be doing in our country and not trying to fix people that don't want to be fixed.
Don't think you're gonna like my answers, but what the heck, here goes... - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]No, I don't think anyone is going to change "those people" over there. We never should have tried "way back when" meddling in foreign governments. But, back then, when an ally asked for help, you helped them...and a lot of these countries were our allies back then.
I just read an article today that, in 2001, I think it was the CIA who stated both the Taliban and Al-Quaida had their base there and that's why we went into Iraq. (Going from memory here-already threw that paper out- but I'm sure if you want to, you could do a search and find out for sure).
IF the government would have listened to the professional soldiers (you know, the generals and colonels), this mess would have been over and done with a long time ago. But, of course, Congress and the other desk sitters think they know it all.
Oh good grief. - RC
[ In Reply To ..]Well then, let's just keep our troops in Iraq for 156,215,157 years.
While we're at it, let's also squash all that lame solar power, too. Might as well keep the Middle East afloat to our detriment.
Mixed feelings.... - SK1
[ In Reply To ..]On one hand, I agree that this is a civil war and we have no business being butinskis into their issues.
On the other hand, they do present a national security issue for us and have the ability to do great damage to our country (evidence 9/11).
On a third hand (if I had one -- often wished I did), there's also a human rights element that I struggle with and that's the Taliban's treatment of women, the horrors of which can be read about on the Internet, if you have the stomach for it. Are we abandoning these women by pulling out entire and letting Al Qaeda run amok?
It's a conundrum.
As much as we moan and groan - RC
[ In Reply To ..]About the state of the US, I cannot imagine being a woman in the Middle East.
Those living in peace as part of a good family wonder - the same about us. :) It's the others--the on
[ In Reply To ..]don't have a snug fit, and of course all those living in areas taken over by fundamentalist religious extremists determined to destroy cultures that date back literally thousands of years in that part of the world.
It is - horrible
[ In Reply To ..]how women are treated in that country and other countries, including many in our country, but do you really think we can fix that? People need to get over thinking we can fix the world. Our country's responsibility is to take care of our citizens first. Somewhere along the way, that seems to have been forgotten. Look at our country and tell me why we should be worrying about everybody else right now.
It's hard to know what to do in these situations - Fanatical Hypocrite
[ In Reply To ..]I feel similarly about our foreign interventionism. For me though, I just don't think it's worth it. I hate to abandon all the people over there, especially since we basically promised to fix all their problems after invading them, but I feel we were writing checks we can't cash on that one. Any chance of peace for the Middle East was destroyed with colonialism when they redrew the borders to encompass multiple ethnic groups in each country. Though in a way it was mother nature that killed them. Human natural + oil = endless suffering. The only good news for the Middle East is that their oil (which also happens to be the sole thing they've got going for them) is going to run out fast with the way we're eating it up.
Horrific sexism, racism, theocracy, institutionalized murder, genocide and so many other terrible things are happening in these countries, yet we seem ultimately powerless to stop it. All we do is throw our own young men and women into that abyss.
And while I'm glad Saddam is dead, there's a new dictator every second somewhere in the world. You hang one and more pop up. You have to treat the problem at its root: Education, humanitarian aid and not carpet bombing their stuff, but try building schools and hospitals while someone is blowing them up. Unfortunately, the only ones who can fix the Middle East are its own people.
If 200 years ago the French had swooped in, blown up the British and most of our population, then freed us and occupied us, built our country for us and made us vote, we'd probably still be a smoking crater. In the end, freedom is one of those things you have to do together. Neighbor with neighbor, family with family. Otherwise it's just a puppet show.
Meanwhile, China is a dictatorship, Russia is a giant organized crime syndicate, India is trapped in a caste system, even our own southern states are filled with terrorists (KKK, confederates and other hate groups). Hopefully, aliens can invade the whole planet and occupy every country at once:)
As usual, Backwards, is just using anything to disparage. - If we were still there, THAT'd be her beef. N
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You can share your opinion/information, too..... - SK1
[ In Reply To ..]Isn't that what a forum is for? Of course, maybe that's what you're doing by disparaging another forum member, but why? I would much rather hear what you have to say about Al Qaeda.
This is a very well-established political ploy, its purpose to - disgust opponents into not voting. On
[ In Reply To ..]this forum, most without the stomach for reading this stuff, much less engaging, leave the political board and don't return. "Victory" for that tactic through degradation of the process.
I guess I missed it. They left? - nm
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