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National Fiscal Hypocrisy Week


Posted: Dec 1, 2010

National Fiscal Hypocrisy Week Robert Reich, professor of public policy | 11/29/10 | 4 comments | Leave a comment Robert Reich Welcome to National Fiscal Hypocrisy Week. Today (Monday), Congress takes up a measure delaying by one month a scheduled 23% cut in federal reimbursements to doctors. The cut will automatically go into effect unless Congress acts. But of course Congress will act. Doctors threaten to drop Medicare patients if their rates are cut. Congress has delayed scheduled Medicare cuts for years. The best outcome would be an agreement to contain future health-care costs by allowing Medicare to use its bargaining power with drug companies and medical suppliers to reduce rates; by allowing Americans to buy drugs from Canada; by applying the antitrust laws to health insurers; and by giving the public an option to buy their health care from a government-run public option. Likelihood of any of this happening over Republican and DINO objections is zero. Tuesday, the President meets with Republican and Democratic congressional leaders to begin working out a compromise for extending the Bush tax cuts. Both parties say they want to preserve the tax cuts for lower- and middle-income families. But this would cost $3 trillion over the next decade. Republicans also want to extend them permanently for the top 2 percent of earners, for an added $700 billion. The top don’t need the cuts, don’t deserve them, and won’t spend the windfall (and thereby stimulate the economy). The best outcome would be an agreement to extend the tax cuts for the bottom 99 percent, for two years. This would stimulate the economy in the short term when it most needs it, and reduce the long-term deficit. Likelihood of this happening over Republican and DINO objections is zero. Meanwhile, unless Congress agrees to extend unemployment benefits by Tuesday, 800,000 long-term unemployed will start running out. Extended benefits are not only necessary given the record number and level of long-term unemployed, but they’re also one of the best means of stimulating spending. The unemployed will spend every dollar of benefits they receive. The best outcome would be another six-month extension, at a cost of $34 billion. This would help an additional 4 million long-term jobless who would otherwise run out of benefits over the next few months. Add in a new WPA that offers work to the jobless — everything from teacher’s aides to improving public parks and installing insulation in public buildings. Likelihood of this happening over Republican and DINO objections is zero. Finally, on Wednesday, the President’s deficit commission will issue a report on how to reduce the nation’s long-term deficit. The initial draft was regressive — cutting $3 of spending for every $1 of tax increase, and decimating the Earned Income Tax Credit, among other things. The best outcome would be a unanimous report that focused on taming rising health-care costs (see first item above), rejected Republican calls to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy (see second item above), and supported extending unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless and a new WPA (third item). Ideally, the report would also call for new investments in infrastructure and education that would grow the economy and thereby shrink the deficit as a share of GDP. Likelihood, zero. National Fiscal Hypocrisy Week may be carried over into next week, too.;

Ahhh...Robert Reich, darling of the uber left.... - sam

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professor at UC Berkeley (doesn't get any further left than Berkeley...lol). And amidst all that yaya we have all heard before, and going after the middle and more conservative members of his own party (DINOs, how cute), out pops something that I can actually start to agree with. Oh my. Alert the media.

Note the reference to the new WPA? They stole my idea...lol. Extending the unemployment but putting the people to work in infrastructure jobs...only they use the word "offer" where I think it should be mandatory. It you want to continue to draw the money, work for it. I also think it should be taxed if if is enought that it would be taxed if it were regular income as well, but that probably won't happen. Rest of it, same old same old. Dems want to raise taxes, Republicans don't and apparently some of the more moderate and conservative Dems don't want to either...and Reich is the tool to start beating them over the head. Robert says shame on you DINOS. Shame on you!

I don't think Robert understood the midterms either. I think the DINOS did. They would like to keep their jobs. Go DINOS, take your party back!

Do you believe the world is flat, too? - s/m

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You would do well to read this and absorb it rather than dismissing it and trivializing it with your usual, what do you call it? Yada, yada, yada.

Bio: Robert Reich is an American political economist, professor, author, and political commentator. He served in three national administrations, including that of Presidents Ford, Carter, and as Secretary of Labor under President Bill Clinton, from 1993 to 1997. A graduate of Dartmouth College, Oxford University and Yale Law School, he has been considered one of America\'s foremost political economists.

Is there enough air up there on your lofty perch? - Thinking maybe not.

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I don't think.... - see message

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You should have given Wikipedia credit for what you copied and pasted here. In my opinion I don't care how much education someone has. I know a lot of people who have degrees but their ideologies are just on the wrong track. Especially reading (on Wikipedia) about his bio. His serving under both Carter and Clinton tells me all I need to know. So, he can have the highest degree offered for all I care, what is disturbing is his ideologies/beliefs. Soros also has a lot of education too, but he is also an evil person. He also believes the world should be a one world government (with him in charge of course), and his ideas about the people who live in these countries and what should happen to them is not in good standing for the country. For me it's not so much what job they held, or how many tests they have sat through and passed to get their degree, but what they have done in their lives, what their beliefs are, and what ideologies they are trying to push that makes me concerned. And on top of that he is associated with Daily Kos, Olberman and Matthews. There is nothing he could say that I would agree with. I don't care if he has the highest education level there is. It's his beliefs I don't agree with.

What an incredibly intelligent man. This - makes more sense

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than anything posted on this board to date. It is such a shame that people harbor so many preconceived notions and have such a hard time digesting anything that doesn't fit.

I wonder how many times he has heard..."UC Berkeley, you can't get any more left than that," which isn't bad in and of itself, it's what follows. Talk to the hand! :/

Thank you for wisdom oh student of.... - Obi Wan Reich.

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I stand in awe. Well, not really. lol.

You're welcome. Looks like you could use a - lot more.

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Keep visiting. :)

As long as we are talking about hypocrisy... - sam

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why stand on ceremony and hold up the unemployment benefits when all the other side wants are cost cutting measures to offset so it is not a further addition to the already massive debt? When even members of their own party are open to that, the hard left just says no.

Extending the tax cuts for rich that increase the deficit by 700 billion - the biggest hypocrisy - Bah, humbug!

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and then turn around and hold up the unemployment benefits because they should be paid for. How blatant in-the-pocket of campaingn donations is that?

About as blatant as the President asking for wage freezes... - sam

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and the union getting in his face immediately. ALL about donations. LOL. Again, the elephant in the room here is if you CUT costs you won't have to tax anybody, and the deficit STILL goes down. Imagine that!!!

...hypocrite ball back in YOUR court now. lol.
What's your point? If it works then maybe you'll - have one
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So far, "getting in his face" doesn't mean much.
Except that the union and the Democrats who run it... - sam
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are hypocritical. Taxes, yes. Cut costs, no. Remember? This would actually cut costs and help the deficit shrink instead of getting larger. Federal employees are already among the better wage earners among us, and the union can't wait a measly 2 years to hit we the taxpayers again?

Yep, I would say that places them firmly in the hypocritical column for getting in his face. And if he caves, then HE falls in the column right with them. If he bucks the union on this one and the Dems in Congress do the same, then kudos to them. Until they DO, remain in the hypocrite column.

Thanks for your input!
You have still made no point - Unless
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you are saying Democrats do not disagree with each other.

Who held up the unemployment benefits? - Backwards Typist

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It hasn't even come up in the past 7 days. In fact, they spent that time working on FDA food safety.

I would say BOTH parties are to blame for this, not one more than the other. If the dems wanted to extend the benefits why didn't they bring it up for a vote?

Was food safety more important? Evidently so.
The Republicans are holding up the vote on unemployment - sm
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Democrats are trying to get the votes needed lined up and it won't happen unless the 'pubs quit pouting.
...and they are holding it up, why....? - sam
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because of the almost pathological aversion the hard left Dems have to include any method of paying for it with the extension. Oh shoot, what's another 6 or 7 billion on top of the trillions of deficit already...that's chump change!

All the Democrats have to do is agree to cutting spending somewhere to pay for it. That's it. Not rocket science. Not unreasonable either. You have to do it in your daily life, right? I don't want think just go buy what you want when you want it, even if you are paying for it with hot checks. Don't you eventually have to decide what things you want more and cut back somewhere else so you will have the money for those things?
The pubs just want to know where the money is - coming from. Dems dont care about it.
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Dems are like little kids who have no idea what it really means to be in debt. I guess their parents never taught them to be adults, which is why our country is having so much trouble getting out of this dark hole.
The dems are "trying to get the votes needed"? - Backwards Typist
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Come on. The dems still control Congress. That's a poor excuse. In fact, it's no excuse. They still rule until the end of the month, not the pubs. They should have had no problem passing an extension unless, heaven forbid, they are grandstanding trying to make the pubs look evil once more.

That excuse doesn't hold water with me.
There is a small mutiny in the Dem ranks. - sam
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Robert Reich referred to them in that article as DINOS. There are some moderate and conservative Democrats who are kinda waffling because apparently SOME of them got the message of the midterms and want to keep their jobs, so maybe the Dems DON'T have the votes.

But...you are probably right. It is an exercise to blame the Republicans for starving all those people who have been on unemployment for a little over 2 years already. That could be a campaign slogan for 2012.

What they don't get is that was another thing that people said at the midterms...that they were sick of the finger pointing on both sides and blaming the other guy, just DO something. Also, universally they said STOP SPENDING. I still have visions of the hard left Dems with fingers in their ears saying "la la la la WE DON'T HEAR YOU."

All they would have to do is agree to cut spending somewhere else to pay for the extension and the Republicans would be on board. It's like the Dems think they are going to be struck by lightning if they cut spending.
Filibuster-proof?--What a memory you have. - I hope you bookmarked your research.
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I wish I could agree...however, I don't see why the Dems... - sam
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won't even talk to the Republicans about adding some cost cutting in with it so that it doesn't add another 6 or 7 billion to the deficit. It's not that the Republicans don't want to extend them, they just want it be paid for. They would probably settle for SOME of it being paid for. I just do not understand that bull-headedness and almost pathological aversion of the hard left Democrats to cutting costs at the same time they want to spend. That is good common fiscal sense for ANY of us. Don't we have to make those decisions in our daily lives and decide what we will have to give up to have something else so we don't go broke? Why is that unreasonable?

It just looks to me like the Republicans are sticking to their guns and listening to the people who send them there who said, among other things, STOP SPENDING. I have to agree with them on that point.

Just so you know. - You make absolutely no sense.

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The TAX money already belonged to the PEOPLE who earned that money!!! I am so sick of you people who act otherwise. Shame on you. Also, most of the people who will be cut off on unemployment have had it for a year and a half to two years. If we cant at least use some of this useless stimulus money or have funds for it, we should NOT add to our debt for this any longer. There has to be a limit. These are two completely different issues, but like the usual liberal hypocrite, you try your best to categorize as one issue. -pitiful.
Just so you know - you completely missed the point - Try again
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but read the string first.

Someone please explain to me how... - Zville MT

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letting people keep more of their own money is increasing the deficit? I keep hearing everyone say that and I don't get it. I mean, isn't that sort of like running up your credit card and then whining to your boss because he won't give you a raise? I truly don't understand this arguement.

And the tax cuts aren't just for the rich - I'm far from it and just for starters, the child tax credit will go down by half, which means an extra $1000 on my taxes.
Tax cuts - lml
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are reductions in tax. Tax is paid to the government and that is where the money comes from. If there isn't enough money to cover what the government spends, the deficit grows.

Tax cuts = less tax. The idea behind letting the "rich" keep their money and having the middle class pay for it was an incentive to keep jobs here, among other things. Most of the "rich" are not employers and it has also been found that they do not put the tax savings back into the economy as a rule.

There are big differences between individual income tax and corporate income tax. Businesses can be treated as individuals, etc. There are many many loopholes for businesses, and some for individuals.

The issue is very very complicated and is not as simple as more income = more tax.
You're right, it's not simple - Zville MT
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But it should be. The government should be run like a household - you get $X to spend and no more. If you spend more, you have to borrow it and then pay the interest on the loan. If you continue to spend more than your income, you continue to borrow and pay more in interest. It's not too long before you realize you can't pay the interest, let alone pay back the money you borrowed, and you go to bankruptcy court.

The government is now realizing that it can't afford all the money they've borrowed and now we have to pay the bill in the form of higher taxes? Again I say it's not just the "rich" that are going to suffer from this. It sounds to me that the government thinks it's their money and somehow we're not giving it to them, so they have to force it from us!

We all know there are other things that could be cut from their spending besides policemen, fire fighters, etc, stupid things that the government should never have been given the power to pay for. If you've never seen the movie Dave, see it - we need to cut money going to things like making people feel better about a car they already own.

Leaving tax cuts in place would not increase the deficit...if they would CUT spending. - sam
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but the hard left Democrats won't even talk about that. To me that is common sense. You and I have to make that decision every day. We only have a certain amount of money to spend. We have to prioritize what is most important and spend there, which usually means you have to spend LESS somewhere else. The Democrats either don't understand that or do understand it and don't give a darn.

I would like to see figures that say most of the "rich" are not employers. Remember, The Democrats define "rich" as $250,000 a year or above. You know as well as I do a lot of people in that bracket are employers. You and I are the middle class. How many employees do you have?

People throw statements like that out with absolutely nothing to back it up, and expect people just accept it on face value. The midterms should show them people are not willing to do that anymore. We ask questions. We educate ourselves. And by golly, we expect the people in charge to spend OUR money wisely and the government to live within its means.

You can't just keep spending, spending, spending and raising taxes to meet it. It is time to STOP the madness. When they want to spend, they need to find a cut somewhere else to compensate it, otherwise the deficit is NOT going to go down. Taxing the rich at higher rates is not the answer, and it won't be enough. If they let the rest of the tax cuts expire we will ALL have higher taxes, not just the rich.

I do NOT understand this pathological aversion the Dems have to controlling spending. Obama ran on the promise he was going to cut programs that don't work. Lord knows there are thousands of those. Just another promise to be broken I suppose. He has a lot of those as well.

Sorry to get so verbose. It just irritates me that the Democrats seem so unwilling to even TALK about cutting spending.
Where do you find information that dems refuse to talk about - cutting spending?
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Factual information like the kind you speak of.
I have factual information in that...they aren't doing it. - sam
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Haven't you been reading the newspapers, watching TV coverage? If you are a Democrat, this should not surprise you. Democrats do not want to cut any programs, ever. One of Obama's big campaign promises was to go through the programs one by one and cut the ones that are not working (and that would be a whopping list). I actually thought THEN that a Democrat might actually be willing to do that. But it was just that, a campaign promise, meant to appeal to the moderate and conservative portions of his party. Just another one of the promises he broke. Which also lost him a lot of that moderate and conservative vote at the midterms.

If you are a Democrat, you know this. You don't need it proven to you...anyone who has been watching these last two years especially will show you that the Democrats in Washington are not interested in cutting costs.
I haven't seen anything factual saying they refuse to TALK - about it
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As you are saying is the case.

By the way, what are the republican's solid ideas for cutting spending, besides cutting public education funding that is.

I've seen good ideas on cutting spending, and keeping the GDP around 16, but not from the pubs directly.
Here it is... - sam
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The rolling spending back to 2008 levels looks good to me. The freezing of tax rates (meaning no tax hikes for anybody) looks good to me. We are in a really bad place economically, and we are not going to dig out of this hole unless spending is cut BACK. That is not a Dem or Pub thing, that is COMMON SENSE.
Okay, but what constitutes your saying the dems refuse to TALK about - it?
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Does "talking about it" mean doing it just as the pubs say?
Well, they didn't talk to them about Obamacare, now did they? - sam
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all backdoor meetings and deal making going on, even at the White House level. Again..if you ever read anything with a slant other than left, you would be aware of this. Do you see the Democrats in Congress reaching out to Republicans at all? Do you see anything in the press about it? Of course not. Any time a Democrat even makes a noise about maybe compromising, the hard left comes in with the "DINOs" remarks and "caving in."

I have seen the "caving in" posts on this board.

There is absolutely no evidence that the hard left is interested in compromise at all. If you can find anything, please point me in that direction.

No, compromise means listening to the PEOPLE. The PEOPLE spoke at midterms, and one of the loud messages was STOP SPENDING. And for the millionith time, it was not only "pubs" who caused that shellacking. What about that is so hard for the hard left Democrats to understand? The moderate and conservative Democrats got it. However, they are sorely outnumbered and now have become "DINOs" and get ridiculed for "caving" in if they show any SIGN of compromise.

Geez. lol.
Yes they did. When you hit a brick wall...well - sometimes
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you just have to go around it, and how in the heck did that public option get outta there?
That public option got outta there because.... - sam
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enough of the conservative and moderate Democrats listened to their constituents and said they wouldn't vote for it either with the public option in there. If they hadn't crossed over, the Dems could have put it through no matter what the Republicans said. They did not have to "talk" to know that the Republicans were against the public option, all they had to do was "listen," and apparently some of them did.

Yes, "going around the brick wall" is the Democrat form of bipartisanship. Not getting together to take down the wall, just go around the darn thing, tell them to talk to the hand.
Oh my, now there's a breakthrough. - An
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actual admission they listened. Couldn't find it within yourself to call it what it is. So, hmmmm, you think the Dems "caved" due to pressure. You think that fits here? Hypocrisy!!!!

Hypocrisy: Tax cuts for the rich that add to the budget deficit - No unemployment benefits for food and shelter

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Hypocrisy - the complete inability to compromise or to... - accept any fiscal responsibility.

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White liberal hypocrisy on race is so delightful for conservatives. White conservatives are always on defense against charges of hating President Obama because he is black; suppressing minority voters and indifference to the difficulty minorities have living everyday with the legacy of slavery and a culture filled with stereotypes of black inferiority. This week white conservatives can take a break, step out of the dock and make way for white liberals. I know from personal experience at N ...

Anybody See The Article On The National Debt?Jan 17, 2011
$14T and growing at a rate of $4 billion a day! Isn't that just ducky! The government borrows 41 cents for every dollar it spends and we, the people,  every man, woman, and child, equals $45,300. I'm so glad my 3-yo grandson will have a good life. Has the TARP money been applied to this debt? I didn't see anything in any article on that. What to do? Raising the debt ceiling will keep us "solvent" for a little while, but what happens when that limit is reached? Will they rais ...

Critics Say There Is No National Debt Dec 04, 2010
Very interesting article ...