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NRA: Stand and Fight

Posted: May 3, 2013

The theme of the NRA's annual convention this year is “Stand and Fight.” From NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam: “From our perspective, this is not over. This is a fight that will take years. And what happened a couple of weeks ago [in the Senate] was the first battle in what will be many battles. But we're prepared for a very long and extensive war.” Battle. Wow.;

preparing for the battle - Effie

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Guess thats why they have to arm those 5 year olds.

about the spokesman - battle. wow.

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Evidently, Andrew Arulanandam is the NRA's Director of Public Affairs, and a previous Executive Director of the Idaho Republican Party.

Other than that, I can't find any other information about this man. I can't even find a simple biography. I think that's kind of interesting.

Bout time someone states it as it is - "battle" YES, OF COURSE

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Battle is a correct word to use in this case.

but why? what is the battle? - nm

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You really don't know? Wow - Here, let me help you understand - sm

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A battle isn't always hand-to-hand combat. There are many forms of battle. Some people even say life is a battle.

But fighting for gun rights IS a battle. When you have a government trying to take away those rights and seize guns, as they are doing now, yes, you could say this fight is a battle.

There is something called The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What that means is we have the right to own and carry firearms (or knives, swords or whatever weapons we want). It is a right that our founding fathers gave to every American when they wrote the constitution. Most people have them for personal protection or for hunting.

Either way it was written for a purpose. It was written because the founders believed so strongly in this. They believed that the people should be able to defend themselves and their liberties from a government that could become corrupt (which remarkably they could see what would happen in the future). They believed that a corrupt government, if they were to take away our weapons we would not be able to defend ourselves. Someone once wrote "with arms we are citizens, without them we are subjects" (forget where I read that). They could impose any laws and do anything to us and if we have no way to protect ourselves it's over for us.

Read the words of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry and others. This is a very important issue to many whether or not they own a weapon. We cannot let tyrants seize the government, remove our means of protecting ourselves and enslave us whatever way they want.

Fighting against the government to uphold the second amendment is indeed a battle. One that the government will not win.

Please cite one instance of someone taking away - someone's gun NM

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Tyrants seizing the government? Wow.

Unless the NRA is the tyrant seizing the government because in case you haven't noticed they own Congress.

I think the rest of us who just want to live peacefully and safely free of uzi-toting tyrants should have that right.

Challenge accepted - sm

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Here are just two - but two is more than enough.

SAFE Act mistake leads to illegal pistol permit seizure: http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/210049/37/SAFE-Act-Mistake-Leads-to-Pistol-Permit-Seizure Another article on the same occurrence: http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/David-DiPietro/story/51925/ Note that the man's medical history has now been made public.

Police illegally seized hundreds of firearms in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, then had to give them back: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-08-nra-katrina_N.htm There was also at least one book written about this, and it resulted in a LA law that police cannot seize guns from law-abiding citizens during a state of emergency.

Both were rectified legally and guns returned. - So that's zero (nm)

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No, that would be two (at least) - sm

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The point is they seized the guns. It does not make a difference if they returned them. The fact is they seized them to begin with. So that's two.

They got them back. - sm

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The NRA-inciting context is the government is going to take away all guns and the owners will never get them back. Confiscation being a final entity, not confiscating a gun accidentally because law enforcement was unsure of a new law, or confiscating guns after a natural disaster (which was all but ignored by the administration in office at the time) to prevent crime (because the administration in office could care less about the people affected by the natural disaster).

Many Katrina guns were probably rusted beyond repair - sm

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...so they could not be returned in the same condition they were illegally seized.

It was widely reported that they were stored in a trailer without climate control, which means that they turned into rusty metal and rotting wood in the southern Louisiana climate.

There were plenty of true stories of guns held by law-abiding citizens during that time saving lives by deterring crime.

Anyway, such illegal seizures are one of the reasons many gun owners do not want national registration. When guns are likely to be illegally seized by law enforcement, who wants them to know what you have?

Illegal seizure instance #3 - but it never happens, right? - sm

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Guns were illegally seized by law enforcement after tornado in Greensburg, KS: http://www.gunweek.com/2008/feature0501.html Money quote: "But he knows from neighbors who had been monitoring police radio transmissions that night that lawmen had gone to his home and were trying to get into his gun safe."

This incident also prompted a law to protect law-abiding gun owners in Kansas from illegal seizure in the event of a disaster or emergency.

So you see, it's difficult to believe that the anti-gun/"gun control" faction is worried about the children and only wants to pass laws to make us safer. Because every time there's an excuse, law enforcement - at the behest, perhaps, of an anti-gun governor or mayor - pounds on the door and illegally seizes guns.

I for one would definitely rather have guns in the hands of looters - than law enforcement

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Yes, I read the article. It never ceases to amaze me how perfect everyone expects first responders to be, anywhere from securing a perimeter immediately after the disaster to trying to save lives of people that could have been injured. Everything should be done right now and no mistakes allowed.

Sounds like this was a pretty gun-intensive community so I'm sure law enforcement wasn't out to confiscate guns for no reason. Law enforcement individuals probably had a good personal stock of their own. So it seems they would be sympathetic to the gun owners of the community.

All these examples are from circumstances where the motivation was to protect people, not to use it as an excuse to seize guns... Like oh, "Here comes a tornado, this is our chance to take away everyone's gun!!!"

Shame those people were only concerned about their precious guns. No mention of concern for life.

And looks like they changed the law to prevent seizing guns in the wake of a disaster since that tornado way back in 2007. So things are swinging your way all the time.

"No mention of concern for life"? Meaning what? - sm

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At that point, some homeowners/gun owners wanted to go back and secure their own property, including their guns.

The police in Greensburg may have been looters - as some cops were during Katrina. I can think of no other reason why they would be trying to get into somebody's gun safe, nor why nobody knows who gave the order to "secure" guns. Also, if they were securing guns for safety, they would have made attempts to return them to their owners after the emergency, which it appears they did not do.

From the article previously linked:

"But according to residents who spoke with Gun Week, insult was added to injury when guns were removed not only from wrecked homes but from homes that survived, even from secure cabinets and lockers. These firearms were stored in a tractor trailer, where they quickly deteriorated from heat and humidity. Officers, apparently from various agencies in the area, allegedly claimed that martial law had been imposed when it had not, and ordered all residents to leave the town. Some guns have never been recovered, others were damaged beyond repair."

This wasn't about safety - it was about theft. Theft under cover of a badge.

As in, "we're thankful we're alive." All they seem to be concerned - about is their guns nm

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lol! - sm

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And you gun-grabbers are completely unconcerned that they had their property stolen by police - and not returned.

Got it.

Did I say that? Please don't put words into my - mouth. thx NM

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I'm only saying that personally I would be more concerned about my family and neighbors rather than any personal possessions. I just found it strange that there was no mention that their loved ones were alive.

I guess if you see a tornado coming you'll protect your gun before your family.

Got it.

message in above post disregard the NM - No message in this one

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The interview was about the gun grab - - not the storm - sm

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So I wouldn't have expected to see any of them quoted about anything but the topic at hand.

I don't think we would be having this conv. if the cops had locked down the town and then stolen their family heirlooms, or the children's Xboxes. You and other gun-grabbers would probably be outraged.

But it's okay if it's their guns. Because you think you've proven that the gun owners didn't have enough reverence for life - in an article that was not about the storm per se, or the injuries and deaths, but about the illegal gun seizure.

After a disaster like this, the first thing many people do is attempt to secure their property. Most law-abiding gun owners are horrified at the thought that their weapons may fall into the hands of bad guys, and so yes, they would want to secure all their property, including their guns.

I also note your lack of outrage that the police broke into undamaged and secure homes in and near Greensburg, KS to steal guns.

You ought to admit defeat. You claimed guns were never illegally seized. "Show me one instance." I showed three. In 2 of those, at least, the gun owners had to sue or hire attorneys to have their property - stolen by the cops - returned.

Which can kill or use to loot, a gun or an heirloom - again

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Would you rather the police have the guns or looters?

If the police could break into those homes, so could a criminal. Again, if the criminal stole the heirlooms, what harm could the heirloom do? If the criminal stole the gun, what harm could the gun do?

Again, the government isn't sitting around waiting for a natural disaster to occur as an excuse to confiscate guns.

Ya'll are letting Wayne and the other gun-toting, guns-for-everyone tyrants whip you up into a frenzy. I don't get how otherwise intelligent people would follow lock-step with such an absurd notion.

I understand all that - battle

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I do not oppose the 2nd amendment. People are allowed to have guns.

I read with interest that Wayne LaPierre recently asked "How many Bostonians wished they had a gun two weeks ago?"

I imagine the Bostonians who wanted guns two weeks ago had them. People tend to know if they want or need a gun, and they can buy one.

LaPierre made it sound like this somehow isn't the case, and it seems to sway a lot of people - even you seem to think that rights are being taken away and guns are being seized.

If someone wants to make a case that there should be no background checks, or that citizens should be allowed to have assault weapons - fine. They should make their case. But they shouldn't escalate it into a constitutional frenzy. It serves no good purpose to mislead others by speaking in hyperbolic terms.

"Fighting against the government to uphold the second amendment" sounds like a statement with a chip on its shoulder and a mean walk.

I just don't see tyrants seizing the government, taking away our gun rights, or enslaving us (for goodness sake). The 2nd amendment is not in danger. You spoke knowledgeably of the constitution in your post above, so I know you realize that.

Thank you! I've been trying to make that point. Very - well stated TY again NM

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