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Posted: Jul 1, 2014

I know when I was young and needed it most people actually had some money left over to pay for stuff like that after your essentials came out - can any of us MTs honestly say we could afford birth control today if we had to use it?

And we are not the only ones who have been victims of corporations lowering and lowering your pay while prices in the real world went up and up.

I do think free contraception is a good thing. Contraception stops unwanted pregnancy = prevents abortion.

I think this ruling is ominous and unfair. Corporations are NOT people and the Supreme Court should NOT be pro-corporation and anti-indivual, which I truly believe it is at the moment.

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To change 5-4 balance on SCOTUS - wheres_my_job

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Elect a Democratic president. If the balance on court becomes even more lopsided, I hate to think what will come out of it.

Morality. - nm

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NM

what? - morality what?

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Please explain.
Answer to question from above poster. - nm
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If the balance on court becomes even more lopsided, I hate to think what will come out of it.

My Comment:
Morality.

Many people today want everything they do to be accepted - without being "judged" and then

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want others to pay for the consequences.
Like smoking? How many Christians smoke? Should they be judged? - and
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should I be forced to pay for their cancer treatment?
Like the Catholics? - And homobphobic "Christians"?
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Such hypocrites.

SC is supposed to interpret law and uphold The Constitution, - not politics. sm

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See how far we have come. This is such a divided country; part wants the government to do EVERYTHING for them which means it has to intrude on someone else's rights because the government produces nothing, and the other part wants limited government. We need to start relying on people and not politicians, because they only want to get re-elected and power.

Think about that this July 4. Think about people as individuals. Politicians use deceptive words. The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their correct names.

I keep thinking of a term we used back in the day, - MT62

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"watermelon", meaning green on the outside but red on the inside.

"The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their correct names." - sm

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I agree with that statement so let's call things by their correct name.

Corporations are not people; they are corporations. Corporations also are not religious institutions and should not be given rights to make decisions for their employees based on religious beliefs of their owners. Any Supreme Court that defines a corporation as a person with rights of an individual and as a religious institution is merely playing politics and ignoring the Constitution.

You are free, of course, to despise government to your heart's content, but to say that "government produces nothing" reveals a lack of knowledge regarding government and it's function at local, state, and national levels. Government produces things such as law and order, flow of commerce, public safety, research, and defense. Politicians are merely representatives of their constituents, the people. We can't all individually cram onto the House or Senate floors and be heard, and it is their role to collectively be our voice. If you don't like your representative in Washington, exercise your right to vote to replace them with someone you'd rather have represent you.

Government: It's a pretty basic concept and just really not the sinister evil institution that some people would have you to believe.
Government is made up of people just like - corporations; one is made
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up of politicians trying to get your vote to keep them in power. I don't trust the government no matter who is in power.

Big business, unions, "factions" as the Constitution calls (we call them special interest )are dangerous. Big corporations donate money to both parties so they wound pass regulations against them. It's called fascism in some places. Think GM.

This country was founded on the principles that individuals could run their own lives, not governments and not corporations.
Our laws and the inspiration came from the Bible. - Politics is nothing more than
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a value system. Do you think we have the value system of the Bible?
I you don't believe me, go back and read the - early history of this country,
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read about how George Washington prayed during the Revolutionary War, how our Founding Fathers prayed during the drafting of the Constitution, etc.

I'm not trying to start a heated debate, but it is a fact. Our Constitution is based on the Biblical Law.
Obama prays. What is your point? Are you advocating the law of the land should be - Bliblical Law?
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Are you aware of why we are America?
Muslims in this country are free to worship anyway they please, - but our country was founded on
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Judeo-Christian principles. You can argue with that all you want, but its true.
Free Masons to be exact and their secret societies - what is your point
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Is that the law of the land? Principles do not dictate that all Americans adhere to the doctrines of ANY religion, nor does the constitution.

Principles of all religions align with moral values. However, when one religion forces itself upon the rest of the community, we run into deep trouble (see history).
Who is forcing you? If you are talking about HL, - no one is forcing you to shop there
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work there.

Just because the messenger if flawed, doesn't mean the message is wrong.
I did not even know HL existed until this lawsuit. It has nothing to do with - shopping there
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It has to do with the flawed message and everything to do with the fact that those who condone the flawed message should not be allowed to limit health coverage to anyone the company chooses to hire outside of their belief system.
If I use peyote for medical reasons, should that be paid for - too, no matter what? sm
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This law was based on RFRA which was passed by Bill Clinton with all the democrats support in 1993.
Sure! Is it FDA approved like the pill? - sm
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Does it help in family planning, as in avoiding undesired pregnancies?

Does it eliminate abortions due to women who can't afford BC?

Does it eliminate children born to poor couples on welfare who now are also in the system?

Does it aid in all the other reasons women are prescribed BC for medical reasons?

Maybe you should ask your insurance company if they will pay for peyote.

I have no problem with peyote being paid for if it has medicinal or therapeutic values or comforts those who are suffering.
Actually, the history of the SC ruling was based on - peyote using by Native Americans
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as religious, and passed by Bill Clinton and overwhelmingly supported by the democrats in 1993.

"The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the government's contraception mandate as applied to closely held corporations was a violation of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which was signed into law by Bill Clinton in 1993."

You can read the history of RFRA, but it was because of peyote that it came into being. And by the way, the government does not have the right to unilaterally slap down a federal statute with an executive order.

How far we have come.
And who is going to pay for it. Someone has to pay for it - Your losing an argument
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You keep saying this stuff should be provided for free. Nothing is for free. Someone has to pay for it. You don't just give away stuff for free.

You want it you pay for it. It is not an employee's duty to pay for something that is not a medical necessity. They don't pay for rubbers they should not pay for bc. Bc is a personal choice for a lifestyle that not everyone shares.

You expect they should pay for your movies, dinners out, ball games, theme park admission, etc? No. You want something you pay for it.
No you are losing the argument - sm
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I said I didn't mind paying for it if it is approved as medically efficacious including comfort (as in marijuana).

Please explain lifestyle. Married couples having sex. Is that a lifestyle?

Poor married couples having sex? Is that a problem? You want their kids in the system? Do you want to pay for that?

Christians never have sex outside of marriage, I know, so that is not an issue.

Movies, dinners, ball games, and the rest of your list is not considered health care, so why do you bring it up?
Who. losing the argument here. BC is still covered - Truthhurts
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only 4 abortion drugs are not via HL case.

There are still 16 BC options in ACA. In fact, even if they would have wanted the BC pills out of the ACA, they could still BUY them. If a person doesn't have $15-$50 a MONTH for BC, then there's a problem with their lifestyle choices $$-wise.

But, let's not forget Planned Parenthood. I'm sure they would offer free BC pills. Don't know if every PP site does, but some do.
Some people can't afford that. You should count your blessings - sm
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that you don't know what it's like to have to scrape together "just" $15 to $50 a month. How out of touch is that? Republican out of touch, I guess. And Republican judgmental as is usual for Reps and Cons.
How do you know? Probably to Allah if he does. - nm
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You people are freaking UNbelievable. - In more ways than one.
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Religious dogma. - Zzzzzzz.......
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Morals and values have NOTHING to do with the Bible - and
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America was founded on religious FREEDOM. There is right. There is wrong. It has to do with morals and NOTHING to do with the Bible.

This is why Iraq is such a mess. One religion demands their religion should be the ONLY religion. Is this the direction you want our country to follow?

The Bible is based on Judeo-Christian principles. I - was merely pointing out that
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our Constitution and laws are based on the Bible.
Does that religious freedom you claim for Muslims also - extend to Christians who own companies? nm
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Of course, but what does religion have to do with it? - sm
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If a company hires employees who are not of their faith or belief system, they should be compelled to give them access to any form of health care that is otherwise offered to all members of the community.

I looked up Jehovah's Witnesses and what companies they own because I was interested in finding out if they might file a similar lawsuit to prohibit blood transfusions to their employees, but guess what? They only employ members of their religion.

Well then that says a lot of about Hobby Lobby - since they are willing to employ others. nm
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not really, If they were true to their morals and principles they would only hire - their own
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and not push their belief system onto their employees who expect the same treatment afforded most employees, which is access to health care.
Actually a company has a right to do that, unless you are a - bakery and refuse to make a cake
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for gay marriage.
Repeat after me: HL gives healthcare to their employees - Truthhurts
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HL gives healthcare to their employees. Keep repeating it until you realize that HL gives healthcare to their employees.

Again, it is OBAMA who argued that the requirement wasn’t a mandate at all because the companies could have dropped coverage. Note the words "COMPANIES COULD HAVE DROPPED COVERAGE."

So some of you would rather a company fully drop their health care coverage of their employees than to allow certain small businesses drop the 4 drugs they consider abortion drugs. That really makes sense, now doesn't it?
No it doesn't. ... repeat after me - please
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just because THEY consider them abortion pills, does not make it so. And it is not so FYI.
So tired of the rhetoric. - Ad Infinitum
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Are you serious? The Law of Moses is where - morality came from. nm
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Moses is in the constitution? Where? Morality is common sense. Religion has no place in government - NM
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Morality is not common sense. Otherwise you would not have to be - taught, human nature is
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not always good.
So you were taught to be moral? Then there is no conscience? I beg to - differ
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Religion is not a prerequisite to knowing right from wrong in any culture.

Religious extremism is what causes more violence in this world than any lack of morals.
A hearty "AMEN" to that! Religion belongs behind - closed doors, NOT in our faces every day.
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The only power the government constutionally - was given was to protect the
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citizens from foreign and domestic threats, most of it is what the government cannot do, as some politicians like to call "negative" powers. It limits what they can do because the founders understood what power can do to people.

As you can see, today we are so beyond the original intent. Both parties are beasts. Think Octo-Mom. It just keeps sucking you in with more and more regulations and more and more dependency.
You mean it used to be a basic concept - and not the sinister evil
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institution it is. If you don't think it is then all I say is you have been out of the country for about the last 10-20 years (especially the last 6-10)

We do have a democrat president - and look at the mess

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We're in. 5 appointed by a republican president and 4 appointed by a democrat president. That's a pretty even keel.

This country has checks and balances. It's not supposed to be all one party. If that ever happens then God help this country.

But yet a lot will continue to smoke - Cost has nothing to do with it

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The pill:

With insurance - $5-40 a month.

Without insurance - $20-50 a month.

Cigarettes - $4-6 a pack - $120 to 180 a month.

For less than 66 cents a day someone can protect themselves.

I don't think it has anything to do with cost. It has to do with those wanting something wants someone else to pay for it. What about those who go out drinking on the weekends. Should HL now pay their liquor bill. I know what about the people who want to go skiing or a ball game. Should their employers now pay for that too.

Birth control (which is an optional pill - i.e. not a medication for a life threatening disease) is a responsibility that if a couple decide to have sex they want to make sure they take.

Other options:

Nuvaring
Diaphragm
IUD
Female condom
male condom
Patch
Implant
Sterilization
Withdrawal - FREE (has worked for 25 years for me and longer for many other people) and its dum, dum, dum, da (drum roll please)....*FREE*

God help us if we get a whole congress full of democrats. Gone will be the rights of Christians. Thank God the SC is balanced and that is the way it needs to stay.

This November please think this time when you vote. Keep the balance in congress. No to an all democrat and no to all republicans. Balance people, balance. Just like you don't want all republicans sitting in the office many do not want all democrats. Nothing will ever be fair and the country will literally get -------.

False - I can honestly say

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Thank God I am too old to need it because with my pay being cut to slightly above minimum wage (thanks, Republican Congress) I do not have 1 cent to spare.

The rights of Christians? You think this is Christian? I think it's the opposite of Christian.

Rights of Christians - sm

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For the poster to whom you responded to have that as a necessary prerequisite of elected officials is scary. What about the rest of the religions this country is comprised of or even the right not to practice a religion? Are they to be ignored? Are they noncitizens? Should their rights be in jeopardy by suggesting or pushing for a Christian agenda in government? Very dangerous territory.

Religious freedom or choosing not to belong to a religion is why we became America. I love the way people either don't know that (lack of education maybe?) or choose to ignore the foundation on which our country was built.

Not only is it the opposite of Christian, it is the opposite of American.

TMI - sm

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Comparing cigarettes and alcohol to health care costs to prove a political point seems pretty silly, in my opinion.

And really? You're giving medical advice with really way too much information. Your "free" method of contraception is something you should really keep to yourself. LOL. Expecting or encouraging others to follow your personal example of birth control method is about the worst advice I believe I've ever read on this board. Birth control is NOT one-size-fits-all.

I will definitely be thinking when I vote this October. Yes, October! I'm not waiting until November. The minute the early voting starts, I'm first in line voting a straight Democratic ticket.

Good for you - sm

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It cost less money for bc than it does to smoke drink, go to a movie, etc.

Getting birth control is not a right. It's a lifestyle choice. You want to do it you pay for it.

BC is not a pill to treat a medical condition. What part of that are people not getting. I would think if people are supposed to be MTs they would know this. To compare getting free birth control so that someone can go mess around and not get pregnant is a lot different than someone needing heart medication, diabetes medication, seizure medication. Those are the kind of things health care is suppose to cover. Not someones love pills.

I really don't care how you keep from getting pregnant. That is your choice. There's that word...choice.

I don't use bcp and I'm sure as heck not going to pay for yours and no company should have to pay for someones sexual lifestyle.
Well, then what if I don't want to pay for a - smoker"s lung surgery & chemotherapy?
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I mean, those are REALLY expensive. The cost of one round of chemo would probably cover a whole heckuva lot of birth control.
Then don't - sm
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If a company does not want to pay for an optional (i.e. pleasure) pill that's their prerogative. You don't like it then don't work for them.

The more you write the more you lose your argument.
No, that is incorrect. Smoking is not covered under righteous right religious values - but it shold be
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"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body,"

But the ACA covers smokers. How many Christians smoke? Convenient to pick what vices the Christians want to endorse, eh?
Then you need to talk to God and have him pay - You keep losing the argument
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For Pete sake, I didn't say anything about God. Maybe you should write him a letter and have him pay for it since you are his temple.

You want a religious discussion take it to the faith board. Every time you write you lose your argument.
What did I miss? I thought this suit was based on "religious freedom?" For Pete's - sake be consistentNM
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To prevent unwanted pregnancies - free birth control is a good thing

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So here's a question to ProLife conservatives? What's wrong with that? It will hardly raise your premiums at all, and despite what many, MANY posters say, people who use contraception are NOT promiscuous. In fact, President Obama, through more access to contraception, has reduced abortion by 13%.

So is it just sour grapes and "I don't want to pay for you"?

Honestly, we pay millions to the military and people like Dick Cheney who should be in jail, not being supported by our tax dollars, so you cannot find it in your heart to support free contraception and less abortions?

Not Christian.

Cheney has nothing to do with this. - LOL

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It just amazes me the grasping at straws by the left. Too funny!
Of course he does - I do not want to pay for him
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You do not want to pay for birth control. How do you not get that?
You are absolutely correct. - sm
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Cheney made a calculated, unwarranted, and unjustified decision to send Americans to slaughter and our expense and for his financial gain. That is immoral and not something a good Christian would do.

If anyone wants to argue that point go for it, but don't accuse me of deflecting. It is consistent with the topic of this thread, morality, Christianity, and what citizens and corporations and business have to pay for, even if it does not comply with their moral standards.
I agree - LOL too
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It is fun watching the show. Too bad they can't understand the issue.
Understanding the issue - sm
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Why didn't HL exclude cancer treatment for smokers in the lawsuit? Our body is a temple unto God. Guess they prefer to judge what practices are "Christian."

And just who do you expect is going to pay for this - "free birth control"

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No bc should not be free. It's a pill. Someobody has to make it, somebody has to pay for it. You think the people who go to work to make the pill should not get paid so that you can have it for free?

Christians should be allowed the same rights and considerations as other religions. Otherwise that's not very Chritian and defintely not American. Being an American is equal rights for everyone. Not equal rights for everyone except Christians.

No, your post is not Christian.
The same people who pay for - Dick Cheney's lifestyle
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AND heaps of wars and military stuff which we DO NOT WANT and other perks, like G W Bush's lifestyle too.

Why not? After all, WE should get something we want too, no?
Okay, then you need to take it up with them - sm
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Got a nifty little suggestion then.

Write a letter to them asking them to send you a check so you can get your free birth control. Go for it.
I do not need free birth control - or any birth control
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But I would rather pay for free birth control for all than Dick Cheney's new "heart" (like he ever had one in the first place).
Then you shouldn't have a problem - You're the one who brought it up
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Take it up with Cheney. Not me or anyone else here.

Here's a nifty idea...write him a letter to tell him how much you don't like him and he doesn't have a heart. I really could care less.

Your problem is with him, not anyone here.

The end.
I wonder what the religion of Cheney's heart donor was. - sm
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Would you reject an organ for you or one of your loved ones if they were not Christian? Maybe we should have that printed on our drivers' licenses. No Christians, no Jews, no atheists, etc.

Who paid for Cheney's transplant? Did insurance pay for it?

Who pays for smokers' cancer treatment. I don't smoke. Why should I pay for it?

BECAUSE this is the way insurance works. It does not DISCRIMINATE under the ACA.

I don't understand why that concept is so hard to grasp!!

No one is denying rights to Christians. We all bleed red blood. Don't use it if you don't want to, but don't deny other people the right to attain BC under their INSURANCE.

There is no such thing as "free", somebody is paying for it. - Sounds like you are blaming

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conservatives for unwanted pregnancies. The answer is simple. Think about it.
I think if people were honest with themselves and - realized that certain behaviors
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cause certain outcomes, we would have a much better society. We live now in a society that encourages any kind of behavior to be accepted, but if someone else doesn't want to pay for the consequences then they are labeled "mean" and "uncaring."

I would rather help someone who really needs it to get back on their feet or was down on their luck.
Deciding what is correct behaviour based on religion - !!!
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is one of the main problems in this country today. Legislating your moral beliefs and sitting in judgment of others is not your concern.

No one's religion should be forced on another citizen, regardless of what the religious beliefs happen to be.
You are free to do what you want, just don't ask - me to pay for it. nm
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Taxes are collected and then go to all kinds of things people don't like. - True
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If I had my way, not one penny of my taxes would have gone to Iraq to "free the Iraqi people" in order to exploit their oil fields. If I had my way, nobody's church would be tax exempt so that my taxes could be lowered. The way I see it, if corporations are now religious institutions, then religious institutions are now corporations and need to pay their share of taxes in order to lower my tax burden. Why should I pay more taxes so anybody's church can be tax exempt?

If you have to pay for something you don't like, well, you're in massive amounts of company!
I know, right? Sometimes I think religion, as it's - practiced currently, is bad behavior!
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I'm sick of everything made into a crisis these days, - problems that people can solve

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themselves. There are real dangers with Iran, Russia, EU, etc.

You forgot to add one more danger to the US: - Religious zealot nub-jobs.

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^ typo: "nut" instead of "nub" - Sorrrrryyyyyyy
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Planned Parenthood does free BC/Pap/STD testing - sm

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If you're poor enough.

Well there you go. I said it here that PP will give BC - for free

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Thanks for your post. Nobody should have any problems about this topic anymore. All they have to do is go to PP and they can get their free bc.

It's a win-win-situation for all.

not quite, - NK

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since many Planned Parenthood clinics have been closed in numerous states thanks to social conservatives on state legislatures.

The fact remains that this isn't an issue of who's going to pay for birth control. It's the fact that the Supreme Court just gave its blessing to companies who want to withhold benefits for certain birth control products from its employees, all in the name of religion (and little science according to many medical experts). Benefits that the majority of women receive through their own health care plans. Sounds discriminatory to me.

It's not easy to get into PP these days, with all - the Westboro Baptist types outside.

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You can get it at Planned Parenthood for almost free - FYI no msg

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See, this is about wanting other people to pay for your - behavior without any personal responsibility.

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Then went they object, you can claim how heartless they are.

So you are saying that only people who can afford BC should be allowed to - have sex?

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Even if they are married?

They don't have the right to family planning?

Poor couples who WILL have sex, just like rich couples. Difference is, if poor couple has babies for lack of affordable/free BC, we pay for them. I'd rather pay for their BC. I don't get why Cons aren't on board with this, unless they just want to control the lives of those less fortunate.

This is is not about behavior.

This is about being able to have access to health care including birth control.

LOL! You're right, except for the Catholics. Those - priests need people to have LOTS of sex!

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Do you people not understand that Hobby Lobby - PAYS for birth control??? (sm)

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Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you listening to the MSM? So frustrating for the rest of us who understand it.

It's just not all that simple actually. - True

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It's sweeping legislation that allows an employer to make decisions for their employees based on their religious beliefs. If you don't want the government to come between you and your doctor, why would you want an employer and their religious beliefs to fill that same role?

Are you oversimplifying or are you just listening to Fox News? So frustrating for the rest of us who understand it.

THANK YOU 1000 times - Very frustrating - sm

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Yes they are intentionally being obtuse. They know that HL pays for birth control, but it's just a way to attack someone's religion. Wish they would take it to the faith board and attack God there.

There are so many serious issues going on. Just another diversion to take the focus off of what DC is doing.

Well here's an answer to the problem: If enough - people in this country are - sm

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morally and intellectually advanced enough to BOYCOTT "Hobby Lobby", it will eventually become a non-entity, and thus no longer a problem.

Solution: Let all birth control become available OTC - and insurance stop covering it.

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Then all can buy what they want.

Would you insert that IUD at the counter? - sm

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Could you try multiple diaphragms to see what is the best fit? Let the guy at the counter insert that Essure device?

Well, there you go.

It is not all contraception - My opinion

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The ruling pertains to IUDs and the "morning after" pill, which makes no sense when other methods would still be covered. I guess HL employees would know this going in. The first time my employer scheduled a group prayer meeting (yes, they do this before beginning their shifts) I'd be out of there anyway. I guess my question would be where to draw the line on health coverage - who makes the determination in regard to what is important? Next time it might be someone's chemotherapy. Big questions: Do employers have a right to impact a person's freedom of choice? What happened to the separation of church and state? I don't think canned Christian music in the stores and employee group prayer are what the founding fathers had in mind.

Employers impact too much of our freedoms - already. The time to stop it is NOW.

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Birth control IS allowed in Obamacare, just not the abortion drugs - Truthhurts

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Hobby Lobby and other family corporations just don't have to OFFER ABORTING DRUGS, which are only 4 drugs. Why can't people get that through their heads?

Stop reading and listening to those idiots like Sharpton, Matthews, Clinton, Reid, etc. They started spouting their hate before reading the truth and people like that make me absolutely furious because they pull so many people into their lies, it makes them look stupid when they find the truth.

Did you know that C-Span asked protesters outside the Courthouse what drugs Hobby Lobby is fighting against offering and only TWO people knew that ONE of the drugs was Plan B. Another thing...why would a 15-year-old BOY be protesting...especially since he had no idea what the protest was really about.

It's so disgusting the way this fighting goes on that I'll soon need to doctor for hypertension! .

HL - Anon

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This is an anti-woman bill. Why did the 3 women on the Supreme Court vote against it?

HL - correction - Anon

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Said bill - meant law

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Well, are we not glad he is "clarifying" this for us. Seems he votes for it but is against it. And in the same sentence takes a shot at poor women. What a guy! ============= Santorum clarifies birth control stancePosted byCNN Political Unit (CNN) – Rick Santorum sought to bring some clarity to his birth control position on Friday, which he said has been misconstrued by opponents which have put him on both sides of the issue. "My position is birth control can and should be ...

An Intelligent Woman Talks To Jon Stewart About Birth ControlMar 08, 2012
Truth and Fact Alert! Extremist Republicans should probaby wear protective padding before clicking on this link. Jon Stewart interviews the lady from Planned Parenthood. ...

Obama Stands Up To Bishops And Protects Birth Control CoverageJan 22, 2012
reat news! Despite months of fierce lobbying by the U. S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Obama administration announced today that it would not exempt Catholic hospitals from the Affordable Care Act requirement for insurance plans to cover employees’ birth control. The news, which comes on the first day of Trust Women Week, is a welcome victory for feminists.Back in November, feminists were concerned that President Obama might cave in to the Bishops’ pressure ...

Expert Compares Free Birth Control To Forced AbortionsAug 02, 2011
Making access to birth control easier for American women is akin to “unrestricted, unlimited sex anytime,” and China’s policy of only allowing one child per couple, according to an abortion “expert” featured on Fox News on Tuesday. Family-PAC Vice President Sandy Rios was invited on Fox’s “America’s Newsroom” to discuss the Obama administration’s order that insurance providers cover birth control at no extra cost. Opposite he ...

Planned Parenthood Paid $3 For Birth Control But Billed MedicaidNov 12, 2015
A little-known whistleblower lawsuit accuses Planned Parenthood clinics in Iowa of wrongly siphoning millions of American taxpayer dollars with a series of complicated billing schemes aimed at increasing profits. Among other dishonest practices, a former manager of the clinics alleges, Planned Parenthood staffers routinely purchased birth control pills for just under $3, billed Medicaid $35 for the same package of pills, and got reimbursed for $26. The lawsuit, brought by Sue Thayer, a 17 ...

Math Problem - Calculating Cost Of ApplesMar 20, 2016
Trying to figure out how much this will cost me for my budget. A couple weeks ago I bought 5 applies - they were 3.99/lb and came to $12. (eeks! - they were very good applies - Honeycrisp) I am near broke (no rather I AM broke with a very limited amount of money), but I need to buy another 5 applies.  This time I see a sale for Pink Lady apples (another very good apple).  These applies are on sale for 1.29 a pound.  If I buy 5 of them can someone tell me how much 5 will cost.&nb ...

11 Year Old Gives BirthFeb 05, 2010
Unreal.  If she keeps the baby, when she is graduating high school, her daughter will be in the 1st or 2nd grade.  Very sad, IMO.  ...

The Unassisted Birth StoryAug 19, 2011
Since I am pregnant and frequent a parenting forum. Today I found this amazing story and want to share it with you. Share your thoughts. Link below ...

My Dog Is Preggers And I Don't Know Nothin About Birth No Puppies!Nov 16, 2009
She's a year and a half old boxer.  I kept meaning to get her spayed, but it always got pushed down on the list by other pressing bills and such.  I thought since I had a fenced in yard, I would be able to keep any males after her at bay, but apparently there are some sneaky little dawgs out there! Anyway, I have never had a pregnant dog before and I have no idea what to do when the time comes.  Do I have to help her deliver?  She was in heat towards the end of Septembe ...

The Real Skinny On The Birth CertificateSep 10, 2012
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Obama Show Us Your Birth CertificateOct 29, 2012
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Does Anyone Know How Much An MRI Or X-ray Would CostMar 26, 2010
I have only catastrophic insurance and have to pay for everything out of pocket.  For months my arm has been bothering me.  Can't move it out to the side or front (can't even do a full heil hitler salute (LOL).  It just won't move and I get pains in the infraspinatus muscle and then shooting pains down the outside of the arms.  It doesn't bother me all day, but if I jerk my arm fast, or bump it I get the pains down my arm.  Can't lift my arm up o ...

9-Year-Old Girl Gives Birth To Healthy Baby BoyFeb 03, 2010
In north-east China, an unnamed Chinese girl gave birth by Caesarean section to a health baby boy. She was 9 years old. She was bought to a hospital in Changchun when she was eight and a half months pregnant, and gave birth there, a Chinese newspaper reported. According to reports, local police haven't determined who the father is, but are investigating -- in this province sex with a minor under the age of 14 comes with an automatic rape conviction and jail sentence.This new mother is among ...

President Obama Releases Birth Certificate!Apr 27, 2011
What will the birthers say now?  President Obama to brief press at 9:45 am.  ...

Obama Campaign Selling Birth CertificateMay 22, 2011
President Obama's reelection campaign is turning a conspiracy theory that had long dogged the president into a snarky fundraising tool, selling merchandise depicting Obama and his complete long form birth certificate. For a $25 donation, you can get a t-shirt that shows a smiling Obama above the phrase, "Made in the U.S.A" on the front, and the president's long-form birth certificate on the back. The campaign is also giving away coffee mugs with the same design scheme to sup ...

O Birth Certificate Law : Hawaii Can Now Ignore RequestsMay 19, 2010
OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE LAW: HAWAII CAN NOW IGNORE REQUESTS Maintenance man David Lee of Arvada, Colo., puts the finishing touches on a sign featuring President Barack Obama for a sales lot for pre-owned vehicles along Interstate 70 in the northwest Denver suburb of Wheat Ridge, Colo., on Friday, Nov. 20, 2009. The billboard, completed by an artist Thursday, shows a grinning cartoonish Obama wearing a turban. The billboard says, "PRESIDENT or JIHAD?" Underneath the picture is a yellow square wi ...

Jerome Corsi's 'where's The Birth Certificate?"May 18, 2011
pulled from the shelves and pulped by publisher. Refunds offered. Corsi is the same exalted author who produced the classic "Unfit for Command" about John Kerry. hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA   ...

What Bin Laden Has Cost UsMay 07, 2011
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/05/the-cost-of-bin-laden-3-trillion-over-15-years/238517/   Interesting article...kinda long...but worth the read. ...

Cost Of Getting Braces Going UpJan 11, 2013
Obamacare Medical Device Tax: As of Jan.1, Obamacare imposes a new tax of 2.3 percent on medical device manufacturers, including those who make dental braces. The tax is imposed on gross sales -- even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year. While the tax will be paid to the IRS by the manufacturer, the tax will be passed along as a higher cost of the product, ultimately to be borne by the parent buying the braces for their child. With the cost of braces being as high as $7,625 ...

Cost Of Eyeglasses??Dec 23, 2014
I need single-vision glasses. I have the frames. My eye doctor charges $192 for the eyeglass lenses only. Does anyone know what Costco and/or Walmart charges? TYIA. ...

How 'bout Getting Off The Birth Certificate And Start Having Real Debates....but I Need Apr 27, 2011
to make 1 comment about the certificate. It wasn't the birthers that started this. They just ran with it all these years. It was Hillary's camp during the 2008 campaign that started all this, or did you all forget about that? That's all I have to say about that. Now, some facts about why I will not vote for Obama: 1. President Obama promised to close Gitmo. Did he? 2. President Obama promised in March that the Libyan War would be short term? Is it? 3. President Obama promised ...

But Go Ahead And Worry About A Birth Certificate Fairy TaleMay 30, 2012
In other words, congressional Republicans are taking the government’s creditworthiness hostage when they threaten not to increase the debt ceiling. Politically advantageous as this may be, it is terrible economics. To understand why, let us consider the economic effects of last year’s debt-ceiling debate. If we know our history, perhaps we will not be doomed to repeat it. ...

Great Dane Giving Birth -- Streaming Live Right NowNov 26, 2013
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Mexico To Issue Birth Certificates For Citizens At US ConsulatesJan 15, 2015
Maybe BO should also check this out. ...

Do Doctor's Visit Really Cost This Much?Sep 08, 2016
So, I'm one of those people generally don't go to the doctor unless they are spurting blood across the room, but... A couple months ago, I found a lump in my breast, so I made an appointment with a GYN. I went there, they had me leave a urine sample, he felt the lump, wrote me a referral to a breast surgeon and for a mammogram/ultrasound and told me it would definitely need to be biopsied (freaking me out some more) and that was it. I had the mammogram/ultrasound. His office call ...

Healthy Foods That Don't Cost MuchJun 22, 2010
Got this from an article online To prove my point, I've put together this list of 50 healthy foods that I've purchased at least once in the last six months for under $1 a pound. So rev-up your shopping cart. Apples - One a day keeps the cheapskate away. Asparagus - HUGE store special at 99 cents a pound during Easter week. I bought 10 pounds, blanched it, and then froze it. Bananas - Potassium for pennies. Barley - A tasty alternative to rice and potatoes. Beans - Canned or ...

So Tell Us, Mr. O, How Much Do These Lavish Vacations Cost? Mar 27, 2013
Enough is enough.    Full disclosure needed. Link     ...

What Jihad Has Cost AmericansJun 28, 2013
    http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/learn/email-archives/2842-what-jihad-has-cost-americans ...