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Cost of Obama trip to India, 200 millon per day.


Posted: Nov 8, 2010

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021841-503544.html

 

Earlier this week, the Press Trust of India reported that the United States will "be spending a whopping $200 million per day on President Barack Obama's visit" to Mumbai.

The story lacked a named source, and the $200 million claim was credited to "a top official of the Maharashtra Government privy to the arrangements for the high-profile visit."

The claim quickly gained traction on the right, thanks in part to a link on the conservative news aggregator The Drudge Report. Among those citing it is Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, who responded to a question from CNN's Anderson Cooper last night on how she would reduce the deficit by citing the cost of the presidential trip.

"Well I think we know that just within a day or so, the president of the United States will be taking a trip over to India that is expected to cost the taxpayers $200 million a day," she said. "He's taking two thousand people with him. He'll be renting out over 870 rooms in India. And these are 5-star hotel rooms at the Taj Mahal Palace hotel. This is the kind of over-the-top spending, it's a very small example, Anderson."

CBS News asked the White House about the story yesterday, and the White House said in an email that "The numbers reported in this article have no basis in reality."

"Due to security concerns, we are unable to outline details associated with security procedures and costs, but it's safe to say these numbers are wildly inflated," the official said.

At his press briefing today, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said that while he would not get into the costs of protecting President Obama, they are "comparable" to what they have been for past presidents in similar circumstances.

As FactCheck.org notes, there is no evidence to support the $200 million figure (other than the anonymous quote), and it seems like a serious stretch in light of the fact that the entire war in Afghanistan costs less on a daily basis. 

Writing about the initial report, the Wall Street Journal calls it "demonstrably incorrect" even without considering the $200 million claim. 

"It says the White House had blocked off the entire Taj Mahal Hotel in Mumbai - it hasn't - and that the press traveling with Mr. Obama will be staying there. We won't," writes Jonathan Weisman. "Besides, the press pays its own way at considerable cost to the media outlets, not the U.S. taxpayer."

Back in 1999, the General Accounting Office did a study of a 10-day trip to Africa by President Bill Clinton. The report found that the total cost for the trip was $42 million.

That figure did not take into account the airplanes, helicopters and support personnel who accompany the president, however. (The personnel would presumably be paid whether or not a trip took place.) The operating cost of Air Force One is over $100,000 per hour, and a ten-hour flight from DC to Mumbai would thus tack on a million dollars to a trip's cost.

Anger about the cost of the trip on the part of conservatives mirrors outrage over Michelle Obama's vacation to Spain with her daughter over the summer, which prompted one columnist to dub her a "modern-day Marie Antoinette."

Pressed by Cooper about her claims last night, TPM notes, Bachmann said Mr. Obama's trip to India exceeded normal presidential trips, arguing that "we have never seen this sort of an entourage going with a president before." She added that "we have never seen a trip at this level before, of this level of excess."

When Cooper noted that no one knows the actual cost of the trip, since costs aren't disclosed for security reasons, Bachmann said, "Well, these are the numbers that have been coming out in the press."

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Bachmann is such a dimwit... she believes the press when it suits her. - typical tea party republican that will NOT comprom

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Ashamed to say she comes from my state. Nobody (with a right mind) no pun intended took her seriously then either when she was a state representative. Gawd, I loathe that woman! She is for nobody but her herself, her own political aspirations. But it must be true huh Michele, after all you say, "these are the numbers that have been coming out in the press." Yes it must be true. Unfortunately, there are uninformed people that will believe just what you say. The blind leading the blind is all I can say. I fear for our country with these self-righteous politicians that are pulling the wool over many peoples eyes that don't know how to think and do research for themselves.

Michelle Bachman - mnmt

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I'm also from Minnesota and I cringe everytime her name comes up. What a moron--I'm embarassed she represents any part of my home state.

She embarrasses me, too. - MNMT2

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M. Bachmann apparently advocates for competing with India:

"Literally, if we took away the minimum wageâif conceivably it was goneâwe could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."
She was right.... - sam
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Because as long as welfare, foodstamps, and entitlements pay more than the minimum wage, where is the incentive to get a job?

I don't she was advocating doing away with the minimum wage...she was trying to make a point. What you do is make entitlements, foodstamps and welfare NOT pay as much as the minimum wage...then you have the incentive to get out and get a job. How many times have I heard "why should I take a minimum wage job when food stamps and welfare pay me more?" That is a FACT in this country. NO entitlement should EVER pay MORE than the minimum wage.
But that does not play into the liberal progressive socialist way of doing things. They want as many people as they can tied to the government for support....and it has worked well for THEM...for us, not so much.

Maybe you are embarrassed by the wrong people....?

It makes sense to me.
The day when there is a job available - for every person
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you may have a point. However, you are wrong now.
And how do we achieve that? Not by continuing the Democrat... - sam
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mantra of taxing the "rich" to death trying to pay for all the gimmes (also called redistribution of wealth). Not only is that wrong and unfair, it does not work in the long term. I should qualify that...the liberal progressive part of the Democratic party who unfortunately have hijacked the party so that now they own it. That being said...until we STOP taxing the businesses higher than any tax rate anywhere else in the world, they are actually incentivizing businesses to offshore for cheaper labor. They have to make up a 50% tax bracket up somehow, and labor is the first thing that suffers. Economics 101. Couple that with unions who fight for exhorbitant wages for their members (and more dues for them) until they price their members right out of jobs when the products they are making will no longer support the wages and benefits. Yet another reason why we have empty manufacturing plants all over the country. Pretty sweet, don't you think? The socialist government and socialist unions engineer the job loss that causes the offshoring and then blame the companies who offshore.

We need to get back to the good old days where income redistribution was the good old fashioned way...in the form of a paycheck and not a gimme. Then you would have the availability of jobs.

And if people were willing to forego the gimmes right now today...there would be minimum wage jobs out there. Fast food restaraunts, yada yada. But that is just "beneath" some people. They would rather "get by" on welfare and foodstamps and laugh at the people who WOULD rather get a paycheck than a gimme...meaning laugh at them because they are working a minimum wage job out of which come taxes which help support the welfare food stamp abusers.

And until we recognize what a mess the liberal progressives have created and get back to America as she is supposed to be...we will continue to live like this.

It is not rocket science. The liberal progressives have just convinced a lot of you that it is all the fault of the"big corporations" and the "rich" and it is just "not fair" that they have it and you don't. Class warfare...the greatest weapon of a socialist.
If it weren't for unions, take your daughter to work - would have a whole different meaning
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Thanks unions, for the 40 hour work week (sometimes), child labor laws, overtime pay, and safer working conditions.
Yes, thank them for that, and if they had stopped... - sam
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there, it would have been wonderful. It is another great idea gone horribly bad, corrupted by power and money. They are all about politics, power, and money (look how involved they are in politics now). They lost their way a long time ago. Sad, but true. And what I said is true. They force employers into very high wage brackets and benefits packages that the company's business returns cannot support, so the companies close or offshore, people lose their jobs anyway, the union walks away whistling with all the money they made and the employees lose all those benefits and wages. If unions cared about their employees and keeping them employed, they would take those things into consideration. I do NOT see them doing that. They are spending millions of employees' dollars on elections.

THAT, sadly, is the the truth of unions today.

Lots of embarrasing politicians - especially yours truly - many dems will NOT compromise

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Lots of us not ashamed to say she is from our state. That's how she was elected. More of us liked her and trusted her over her opponent. Get it?

Before people start accusing other people of not having a "right mind" you might want to look at how we got here in the first place (hint...the blind leading the blind, a.k.a. democrats).

So while you "loathe" her there are many more of us who have great respect her and are proud to have her represent us.

I fear for our country that there are so many people out there with pure hatred for no reason. Anyone who has the "R" after their name are doomed from the start because of the loathing from the left-wingers like Olbermann, Mathews, Maddow and Schultz, who direct their followers how to think and what to say. Those people who have lost their minds because they have no idea how to do any research for themselves. Why should they when they have the MSNBC crowd to tell them what to think.

Fortunately for America millions of us did our research. We researched all the candidates. What they have done in their careers and what issues they stand for or voted on. We made the best choice with the research we made.

If people are such sore losers about the election and feel the need to say certain groups (who don't happen to be in your club) don't have a "right mind" then this country will never heal.

I say since the democrats have failed it is time to give other sides a chance. And I stand in good company because the majority of Americans have enough sense and intelligence to vote out the ones who are failing us. These republicans were voted in by all parties (republican, independents, other parties AND democrats).

Statements like yours is why this country is divided.

Very well said! - sam

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You can say, however, that it was not just Republicans until you are blue in the face. These Democrats just cannot grasp that one of theirs would cross over and vote against them. They actually can't see moderate and conservative Democrats still distancing themselves from the current President. 2012 is going to be uggleee for them and they will not be able to figure out why then either. Until both parties abandon the radical elements in them and learn to be Americans first and a political party second...the country cannot become one again. MAIN reason I am a registered Independent and will remain so until one of these parties or a new party emerges that restores sanity to the political process.

I hope that the Republicans who got voted in DO realize that they serve at the pleasure of the American people and they can be sent packing just like the group before them. They need to wake up and understand it is not about THEM it is about US...the American people.

Since you directed this toward me... the one who called Bachman a dimwit!! - lka

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I read your post, in fact, I read it twice along with the others. I think we need to remember that some of us are always going to disagree about the Repubs vrs the Dems. For every argument that you say about about my post, I could argue "for" the Dems. I am not spoon-fed news from MSNBC, but I do like some of the commentators there, namely Keith Olberman. However, I do look, listen and read about both sides. But, try as I might I just cannot get past Glen Beck, O'Reily and the rest of those "idiots." Yes, I said idiots because I truly believe they are. How can you not. Obviously they they have their slant no matter what the Dems say, and I guess I will always have mine by what the Repubs and tea partiers say. Why is that do you think? It is just like for example there are 4 children in a family raised by the same parents. Why are some of those open-minded and some of them narrow-minded. Why do some of them excel and others have behavior problems. If you say down those 4 children and asked them about their upbringing, what motivated them, did they feel nurtered and loved, I bet you would get a different answer from each of them. It's called perception, their life experience. Maybe that is why so many of are undivided in our loyalties to our party or the other. I would like to think that I am an independent, but do lean to the left, but am more of a moderate or centrist.

Someone else mentioned Al Franken and what an embarrassment he is to the state of MN. I agree!!!! But, is he the lesser of 2 evils. The only other choice we had was Norm Coleman, the flip-flop man. Although I don't like M. Bachman's politics, what really infuriates me about her, is her condescending attitude to the media... mainstream media, certainly not FOX though. Her refusal to answer a question when it is asked by mainstream media. Fortunately she is not in my district so I didn't have to cast a vote in that race.

It is interesting that you think statements like mine are a reason the country is divided, when I think it's statements like yours are the reason why the country is divided. We all do loook through a different prism, don't we? It would be unfortunate if neither side are willing to comprose because we would achieve nothing in the end.

I have two words for you....... - terrystone

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Al Franken

Talk about an embarrassment. The left loves to cap on Bachmann, but where's the criticism and embarrassement over that nutjob Al Franken?

Al is doing a terrific job - at least he is funny

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You are not.
He is so NOT funny - even when in SNL
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Never liked him in SNL. Just was not funny and he needed that canned laughter so anyone would think he was funny.

As a politician, well I guess that goes to show that since Obama was elected anyone with no experience can be in office.
I bet he knows that Africa - is a continent - nm
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Yeah...probably. Can't find fault with not knowing.... - sam
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Africa is a continent unless I also find fault with a President who did not know how many states were in the US.

That's called fair. If it is stupid not to know Africa is a continent it is BEYOND stupid not to know how many states are in the country you are President of. Ahem.
As in your words, Oh, Please! - Let me refudiate you
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A slip of the tongue of whether you are saying 47 or 57? That is nothing compared to the Palinisms of not knowing about Africa (really, do you want her doing any kind of foreign policy), or unable to name any respected journal? I could go on and on with this one, but such a waste of time.
Do you not know how many there are either? Not 47, not 57. lol. - sam
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Have you seen the video? It was not a slip of the tongue. He never got it right. He just didn't know. I don't blame him for not knowing; however, if you are going to blame her for not knowing Africa was a continent (if you polled the entire US I would be willing to bet that a hefty percentage wouldn't know either, as would not know the number of states), then you should blame him for not knowing how many states are in the US. I personally don't blame either one of them, and only brought up the number of states because someone brought up Africa. Using your logic, because she did not know Africa was a continent she is not qualified to do any kind of foreign policy, he should not handling anything domestic as he has no idea how many states he oversees.

Good grief. This is another goofy bash post about a woman who is not even IN office anywhere anymore. I just do not get the left's morbid fascination with this woman's every move. Haven't you guys got anything better to do with your time??
What a good recommendation for a congressman... - sam
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"He's funny."

sigh.
I was not trying to be funny.... - terrystone
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The time for fun and games is over. The mood of the country is a serious one and we need good representation in D.C. The people have spoken and now I hope this new crop of politicos will do something about the sad economy, the unemployment rate, the foreclosure fiasco, and the healthcare law. I don't hold out a great deal of hope, however. I hope I'm wrong.
I believe they will try...but as long as the Prez... - sam
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has the veto pen, he can still stop the, because they do not have the votes to override a veto. However, they can stop anymore runaway train legislation by filibustering and if he wants anything else passed he will have to make some concessions. However, we should be watching, and if he DOES block a repeal of Obamacare or any of the other things that this midterm was about, we need to send him down the road back to Chicago in 2012. Personally I think he needs to go, period.

But we who understand what this midterm was really about did to follow the news (both sides), and do our due diligence so that we know the truth and not what some political party hack tries to tell us (i.e. we couldn't do anything because those republicans blocked us). We need to watch the Prez and see if he learned anything. By what he has said so far, he did not.
This board on a small scale represents the current problem with our countryr - frustrated
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The information about the India trip is false; however, that is only part of the problem....

The problem is anyone not in 100% agreement politically with anyone is the 100% evil or "Hitler".

Isn't it just possible that although Michelle Bachman is wrong here that she may have good intensions, as might Al Franken?
You are right, but on this board - it doesn\'t matter - nm
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Well, it looks like they want to go back - to the good old days
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of the Bush years, so stock up for the next round of Wall Street pilfering, job off-shoring, health insurance costs going up and care going down.
Yes I want to back to the good ol days - SM
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1. Where everyone I know has a job.
2. People can work and actually save for their future.
3. Our 401Ks grow over time.
4. We have decent health insurance at an affordable rate.
5. I can actually afford to go on a vacation.
6. People in both the democrat and republican party (and other parties) at least have enough respect for each other and talk to each other in a civil manner.
7. People didn't feel the need (and pride in themselves) by calling people who are not in their party filthy nasty names like "pubes" or "teabaggers".
8. When we knew if we worked hard we would be rewarded. We had the choice to give to charity when we worked extra and we gave selflessly and in an instant.
9. We could qualify for a house that we could actually afford. We felt like we were building a future for ourselves and our children.
10. When the constitution actually meant something.
11. When we could say the pledge of allegiance and have "One Nation Under God" still in it.

There are many many more things I could list that I would go back to the good ol days for.

Maybe Bush was not one of the smartest guys on the block, but during his years I was able to afford a vacation and our money went further. In the Clinton years and now since the last democrat took office I can't afford a vacation and my future is very uncertain. It's not a very good feeling. Give me the good ol days.

Oh yes, Wall Street pilfering, job off-shoring, health insurance costs going up and care going down...we are all going through that with this current regime.
Don't you understand? - Amazed
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You could afford a vacation under Bush because of Clinton and the balanced budget and excess he left Bush. ALso, e 401s all tanked in 2008 while Bush was still in office.

The presnet problems with the economy at present are the direct result of Bush policies.

Now I am not saying all Republicans are bad--personally I think George Bush did his best and naïvely listened to Cheney too often. I think W probably wanted to be a good guy.

I also do not understand why the Obama admisstraion is not prosecuting those Wall Street bloaks---true criminals indeed. I disagree with many of their other policies as well.

Vote Republican, Democrat,Indepenent or not at all. Just make sure your vote is based on facts, not the propaganda put out by both sides.



Are you kidding me? You don't seriously believe that do you? - SM
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You actually think I could afford to go on vacation while Bush was in office because of Clinton?????? Excuse me but that is just a bunch of hogwash. I had 8 years of misery with Clinton in office. The largest tax hike in history hit America when he took office. Everything I saved under Bush I (whom I couldn't stand) was gone with Clinton. Any savings, 401K, etc was wiped clean. My taxes skyrocketed during the Clinton years. Not only did I pay so much I couldn't afford anything at the end of the year I still had to pay extra. Each year the IRS worked with me to have more taken out, but it was never enough (and I'm talking about a 28K year job. I rented a mold infested 1 bedroom apartment in a cheap neighborhood. Not once in 8 years could I afford a vacation. I struggled to make ends meet and pay my bills. 2 years after Clinton left office I finally got my life back. Finally got a tax refund, took a vacation, granted it wasn't anything fancy, but it was a vacation. I could finally afford the basics and able to move from my mold infested apartment to renting a house and feel like a human being worth something.

I'm not going to address the rest of it, because it's late, but just the first part of all that I had to be thankful for was due to Clinton. Sorry, I don't buy it.

If I was at all rude in my post, please excuse me. It's late and I'm tired, but that just floored me. I'm not saying Bush was all roses and wine while he was in because it wasn't, but financially I was better off and it wasn't due to anything Clinton had to do.

I'm sorry but I'm not buying that during 8 years of Bush anything good that happened to me was all due to Clinton and if anything bad happened it was Bush, and now with the current one if anything good happens it's Obama's praises but if anything bad happens to go back and blame Bush for it.

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I Noticed No One Saying Anything About Beyonce And Jay-Z's Trip To CubaApr 09, 2013
It was their 5th wedding anniversary and they went to Cuba, which is against the law; but, of course, they got away with breaking the law. According to the Treasury Dept. spokesperson, they were on a "cultural exchange." Getting away with breaking the law by friends or family of our esteemed President again and again seems to be a habit. How much more is this administration going to thumb their noses at, and/or break the laws of, our country?    ...

Planning A Trip To Kansas City MOSep 05, 2014
Will start October 24 - November 2nd.  Will be staying a the Sheraton Crown Center. Any suggestions on what to do for entertainment while there? Any must go to restaurants? ...

Going On A Trip, Next Door Neighbor Talk WithApr 20, 2015
leave my house key with her just in case. I have animals here at home and my husband is home like every other day as far as the watering and feeding things. She and I basically share "her" cat. She lets him be an inside/outside wanderer and he comes to my house and gets treats. I have talked with her occasionally over the years, never visited in her home, she has been in mine once. She is a part-time RN in NICU here at one of our close by hospitals so pretty responsible. I would love to be a ...

Royal Bank Of Scotland Cutting Hundreds Of Jobs In Move To IndiaJun 25, 2017
From London's The Guardian newspaper, "RBS to cut hundreds of UK jobs in move to India"; link to article posted below.  ...