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Posted: Jul 31, 2014

Blocked by 42 Republicans (see link below for senate roll call).

This is a bill that would have potentially helped our profession of medical transcription by disallowing tax breaks for such as the big MTSOs on their overseas operations.

They won't even let the teeniest incentive to get jobs back here come to a vote.

I have come to the conclusion Republicans do not want Americans to have decent jobs, they also want to cut any benefits due to them taking away our jobs.

What exactly do they want? What's their plan to for the middle class (in our case, slipping to the lower-middle class and further)?

They are just for corporations and the rich, how else do you explain this?

USNEWS.COM

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican senators have blocked an election-year bill limiting tax breaks for U.S. companies that move operations overseas.

The bill would have prevented companies from deducting expenses related to moving their operations to a foreign country. The bill also would have offered tax credits to companies that move operations to the U.S.

Democrats championed the bill, saying it would end senseless tax breaks for firms that ship jobs abroad.

Republicans called the bill an election-year stunt. They noted that Democrats tried to pass a similar bill two years ago, right before the last congressional elections.

The White House says President Barack Obama supports the bill.

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What else did they throw into the bill? - NM

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NM

I miss truthhurts. - sm

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She always brought sense to this type of stuff. This post will probably be removed, but at least I said it while I have a few seconds.

Me too, she probably just got burned out. - NM

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The dislikes are from those afraid of her truths. - LOL

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No, we didn't believe it to be true--there is - a difference-nm

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No, the dislikes are dislikes of know-it-alls. - nm

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The dislikes are from those of us - who can think for ourselves

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And wish you guys would give it a try before you wait for a signal about how to think from your leader.

Honestly, I guess anyone who can stomach listening to Rush Limbaugh for any length of time (not that I'm saying every conservative does, just that they are the ONLY ones who can bear it) is also wanting to be a "dittohead," to be told exactly how to think on every subject.

You really can use your own brain, you know, you don't need someone else to tell you how to think.

On this issue, for example, the real issue is that companies (like MTSOs) are getting tax breaks for setting up shop overseas and this bill was an attempt to bring them back simply by taking AWAY the tax breaks MTSOs get for hiring people to oversee operations in India and OFFERING tax credits for bringing back those jobs to the US.

That's the simple fact, so even if you love business and hate taxes, as an MT this is something you should be for and you should encourage your senator to at least push for these small efforts.

Those MTSOs are not in India to save on their taxes, they are there because they get multiple MTs for the price of one and for this they get tax breaks and no penalties?

This has to be a no brainer, so why you need someone to tell you how to think (or more importantly to attempt to justify the Republican game plan of No No No) is bewildering to those of us who actually read the short bill and can see nothing objectionable and, in fact, those of us who ARE MTs and want action taken to stop the thievery.

Can you think for yourself, are you an MT? Read the bill and come to your own conclusions then.

Why would this post be removed? - Curious

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What is wrong with saying that?

Not me. - Not all that cut and paste rhetoric. Nope.

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What's wrong with copy and paste? - sm

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She found things of interest to someone like me. There were sometimes multiple links to which she referred. She reminded me of a teacher. Putting it all out there and forcing the "students" to think. Nothing wrong with learning. I also follow through on links or info from the other side. That's how I make an informed decision.

Nothing, if one actually finds something worth - cutting and pasting. TH stuff wasnt.

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nm

A "teacher", maybe. But only if the "students" want - a lot of right wing lessons in -.

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class warfare, bigotry and selfishness. I suppose some do want that stuff rammed down their throats, but most do not.

Geez, you've got a bad case of hatefulness. - SM

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It takes two sides of the aisle to run this country as a democracy. We're not going to see things eye to eye all the time, but we could have respect for one another.

I'll show respect for right-wingers when the begin - to show respect for something besides money.

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Wow, that sounds like bullying tactics to me. - NM

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"Bullying tactic"? What in the world are you - sm

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talking about???!!!

I called it bullying. - sm

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Maybe it's called bribery or extortion or tit for tat or quid pro quo, i.e., obviously it's not from a nice place in your heart. Call it what you want.

Your Quote: "I'll show respect for right-wingers when the begin - to show respect for something besides money."

Actually, it wasn't MY quote. I'm a totally - sm

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different poster, so your assumption is wrong!

And forgive me if I laugh at your reference to "a nice place in your heart." Republicants aren't known for their "hearts." LOL!

As far as the quote that you find offensive, I think the poster was RIGHT ON THE MONEY (no pun)!!!

You people keep proving our point. - LOL. No further comment.

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Likewise, I'm sure. - nm

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So let me get this straight: You think that if some - one refuses to show respect to another -

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party and/or its beliefs, that somehow constitutes "bullying"? If that's the case, then what do you call YOUR disagreement with OUR side? Hypocrite.

Nah, you're just using a keyword to try to - get a thread you dont happen

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to be "winning" pulled. Typical right-wing tactic, if ever there was one.

That's funny. I always felt that TH was hateful. - sm

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That's the way she ALWAYS came across as, IMHO.

Why would it be removed? She was one whether (sm) - me

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you agreed with her or not, she did research and made valid points, and I'm a democrat. Some just don't like the truth.

Only problem was, all she ever researched were - conservative publications.

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Her views were totally one-sided.

Why would you be afraid of one conservative poster - sm

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when the majority of posters on this board are liberal? You must have really felt threatened by her.

Or take the word afraid out of there and change it for anything you'd like. The point is that she was one of a minority group on this board.

I don't recall saying anything about being "afraid". - A better description might be "bored stiff.&q

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It was the same old stuff, over and over and over again. Got pretty old.

Yes, because the liberals on this board - Nels

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always have something new and different to say. It's the same ol' same with your lot, too. I'm betting the truth is you don't like a differing opinion, especially if it is intelligently formed and you have no way to disprove it, other than to say it must have come from "Faux News." That saying is getting pretty old, as well.

You're right!! - S/M

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They don't like differing points of view because they want a dictator. They want to be Obamabots and follow the leader and not think for themselves. They like the thought of dependency.

What you have described in your post sounds exactly like... - sm

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the evangelical subculture who want to shove the Christian faith down everyone's throat and legislate faith through politics and dictate how we all should live. You know, the Hobby Lobby cheerleader types who think businesses and government should be able to dictate their religious beliefs onto their employees/citizens and into public schools. Please don't confuse that sector of followers and dictator lovers who want nothing more than laws making everyone conform to their beliefs with liberals who want no part of that type of lockstep from either our employers or our political leaders.

The fact that liberals actually do think for themselves and don't expect everyone to all follow the same leader/dictator is generally the reason the far right radical subculture takes issue with us... and NOT the other way around.

The evangelical right subculture followers are - terrified of folks who think for themselves,

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and don't need to be told what to do and how to think. Put them in a group, and they sound like a flock of parrots.

Liberals don't mind differing opinions. It's the lies that are so mind boggling. - sm

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The problem with so much of what the radical right posts is that it's pure fiction and not remotely "intelligently formed," and simple common sense usually disproves it. "Faux News" (since you brought it up) is a propaganda news channel. They lie about all manner of things to advance their political agenda, and the bleating sheeple believe it and repeat it without question.

A recent lie, for instance, when Malaysian MH17 was shot down, the propaganda machine immediately started in with their criticism of Obama and how he was doing nothing and still going on vacation, saying Reagan immediately stopped his vacation when something similar had happened during his presidency in 1983 (a plane shot down carrying 260+ people, including 53 Americans, 1 a member of Congress). So finally Chris Wallace has to break in and inform the bleached blond and the other 2 idiots the truth. The truth is that Saint Reagan was on a 25-day vacation at the time (not a typo--yes 25 days), and no he did not immediately return to Washington (see link). He even wrote in his diary how he hated to leave his vacation to return to Washington.

It's pathetic the propaganda that is spread to further a political agenda, and the retelling of the lies on this board is equally pathetic and mind boggling.

Did you take into consideration the lies coming out of - the White House ?

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Be fair.

Yep,sure did. And the Repub lies TRUMP THEM. - Like in a 10:1 ratio, or thereabouts.

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nm

Great post! - SM

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Thank God that the majority of democrats out there (not those on this board) are finally seeing the light also.

Not a great post, just a very limited perspective. - nmsg

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To dispute leftwing propaganda and - SM

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blatant lies put forth by the current administration.
Why would she promote liberal bias when she's a conservative? That's funny!

So basically it is not hard - to read the bill yourself

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And come to your own conclusions.

Honestly. As an MT, hard to object to a bill that disallows tax breaks for operating costs and moving costs involved with offshore branches of companies.

It's really not that hard and you can read the bill in a few minutes. From what I can see it is mostly Republicans who have a lot of amendments, so why they then voted against it I don't know.

I don't have time to look it up and read it right - now, but there are always

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other things tacked into bills and that's why they are voted down.

Evil bully businesses want to avoid paying - high tax rates, how dare

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they!

Wrong bill, this is one to encourage - businesses to come back

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As an MT, hard to object to them taking away tax breaks for companies who do what the MTSOs do, i.e. take our jobs and give them to MTs in third world countries.

Do you really think they deserve tax breaks for that?

It should go even further: They should be taxed - heavily for offshoring American jobs. nm

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More taxes equals less employees or more - self check outs/automation, nm

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We already have that. Giving them tax breaks - did nothing at all to save jobs.

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nm

Trying to understand this vote on this bill... - Nonpartisan

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Republicans argue that if Democrats truly wanted to keep companies in the United States, they would work with Republicans to overhaul the tax code and reduce corporate tax rates.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) blocked Republicans from offering amendments to the bill, which is why they voted against advancing the bill.

That's why he's called Dirty Harry! - nm

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NM

Sounds right to me, I mean why did they want to - leave in the first place,

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high taxes. It's like treating the disease but not the cause.

Don't let the Republican rhetoric fool you. They left for cheap labor and for greed. - sm

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The effective tax rate of corporations is much smaller than the actual rate due to write-offs, loopholes, and tax havens. (see link) The fact that Republicans want to lower corporate taxes even further than they already effectively are tells you everything you need to know about the priorities of the GOP: Greedy Old Party.

What is the purpose of a business? To make - money. I'm so sick of years

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of portraying business as evil. We had a small car repair business, doing well, but the taxes and regulations kept us from growing and hiring so we sold our business.

Sen. George McGovern left the public sector - and opened a business,

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after that he found out how hard it was to comply with crushing regulations and changed his tune on legislation. Of course, he was in the private sector then.

I'm so sick of years of government being portrayed as evil. - sm

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Businesses have been benefiting from direct government grants, aid for corporate research and development, subsidized loans and insurance, tax loopholes and tax breaks, and discounted fees for use of public resources for years. They don't mind this corporate welfare one little bit. Businesses get tax breaks for accelerated depreciation and no taxation whatsoever of profits earned abroad. State and local governments also have corporate welfare programs and reduced tax rates to attract businesses to their areas.

Besides all these direct subsidies, businesses get many indirect and hidden government subsidies from local, state, and federal governments creating and maintaining roads, bridges, harbors, navigable rivers, clear water facilities, waste disposal facilities, airports, etc. Then there's education. Companies need skilled and well-educated employees. The public education system, well-funded schools, a clean environment, public funded parks and cultural activities also help to attract skilled workers to an area.

Then there's also direct government funded research and development. ExxonMobil sure doesn't mind the taxpayers' dollars being given to them to the tune of billions of dollars a year, and they will be quite happy with all the pipeline projects they can get the government to foot the bill for. It only helps their profits which are booming, while the little guy whose taxes they're taking are getting the shaft by them. Other big businesses certainly don't mind these government hand-ups into the private sector either. Direct government research and development is approximately $100 billion a year. Drug companies benefit hugely from billions of dollars a year in government research paid for by taxpayers. Listen to the constant whining about Obamacare costs as these drug companies benefit year in and year out from taxpayers' dollars paying for drug and medical research. They're not thrilled about the taxpayers benefiting from taxpayers' dollars; they're more concerned about their hand-ups from the working man's wages.

Republicans don't see these companies getting billions of taxpayers' dollars as takers; they see the American taxpayer as takers. Republicans don't mind hand-ups at all that have been going on for decades and decades at the taxpayers' expense to benefit big business, but just listen to them whine about corporations having to pay taxes. Corporations' idea of fair taxation is government giving them handouts from workers while benefiting from all that government has to offer.

The hypocrisy is staggering.

You may not see it, but the evil was still there, - all the same. Our govmt. is CORRUPT,

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and has been for YEARS, thanks to our corrupt party system. The party system needs to be dismantled; it doesn't work.

Charities and individual used to (and still do) - take care of the needy

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but when a government takes over the role of "charity" they take away our responsibility and assume the role themselves, and it usually winds up being those receiving from the govt vote people in who promise more.

We are all hurt by this, because as taxes go up we tend not to donate as much. We just don't have the disposable income to do it. And the people who could have been helped are hurt by it, too.

Well, enjoy your dependency. How this country - has changed. nm

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What a load of complete garbage! - sm

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Just because a person doesn't think government is evil does not mean that person is enjoying dependency. This is where the radical right seems to have a complete disconnect. Contrary to what you seem to think, there are a great many of your fellow "conservatives" who get government handouts, all the while complaining about the so-called "takers" when they resemble the definition. Not every liberal gets a government benefit. I get NOTHING and have NEVER been on food stamps or unemployment or received ANY type of government handout whatsoever: NOTHING, EVER.

Try to learn to accept the fact that not everyone fits into the neat little boxes conservatives wish them to. Republicans are takers too, and some of the biggest government benefits go to corporations and are hand-ups.

Indeed. - See msg.

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They better enjoy their perks while they can. There's a whole new crop of dependents coming across the border that are going to need everything they can get their paws on. Get your checkbook out!

Government always grow into a tyranny. Businesses - who are run by immoral

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people are no better.

There are rules for both if you are a person of faith. Weights and measures is a parable for how to treat people in business. Big business now is in bed with the government (both parties). Small business is the one who gets hurt.

The prophet Samuel warned us about the path to tyranny when Israel wanted a king. If you an atheist, Thomas Paine wrote Common sense.

The Tower of Babel is also an excellent example. Even if you aren't religious, the moral of the story is timeless.

Government can print money and all these - other entities you mention

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cannot. I'm for small government, but the items you mention are not the role of government to begin with.

Your whining about Republicans is humorous. The two party system we have now is really both sides of a coin, other than a few small govt hold outs.

My dad had an auto business. He paid his taxes, - paid his employees well, and - sm

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did VERY WELL. He was rich, but he broke no laws getting there. He didn't take the profits solely for himself and not the workers. As the business grew, so did the employees' salaries. He paid a lot of taxes - probably a disproportionately large amount, when you compare his business with a big corporation, which pays few, if any. He may not have been happy about it, but it still didn't lessen the need for employees, and there were never layoffs at his place.

He isn't the "big business" being described - as the takers.

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I think everyone approves of hard work and appropriate reward for employees' work. Great system, too bad it has abeen abused so of late. Too many greedy people chasing too few dollars now. You said he had this business, has it been purchased and is it continuing? or did it make it through the auto crunch?

Sounds like your dad was one of the good guys.

Last of the few honest people in the world, I think! - He retired, which coincided with -

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the second gasoline shortage of the late 70s. He survived the first one, but by the time the second one rolled around, Ford still wasn't selling small, gas-sipping vehicles, and he could see the writing on the wall. By then he was in his late 70s anyway, so he sold his inventory, sold the property and the building, and retired. Perfect timing on his part!

In recent years, there have been so many new - regulations in small

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business, that it's daunting.

First, they came for the sugary treats, and - NANNY STATE

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I didn’t speak out because I didn’t eat sugary treats.

Then they came for the salty snacks, and I didn’t speak out because I didn’t eat salty snacks.

Then they came for fatty foods, and I didn’t speak out because I didn’t eat fatty foods.

Then they came for my meat and processed grains, and there was nothing tasty left for me to eat.

This is a joke, right? - sm

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I hate to break the news to you, but meat is generally loaded with animal fat, so you actually were eating fatty foods and probably should have spoken out sooner when you said "I didn’t speak out because I didn’t eat fatty foods." :)

This is a joke, right? If not a joke, they obviously didn't come for all the Kool-Aid.

And THEN came the GMO people who have - sm

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a license to KILL you because of a "loophole" that prohibits anyone from EVER suing them for damages.

I'm not sure that giving up your right to sue is even CONSTITUTIONAL! But, given it's big business, I'm sure if it was ever challenged, SCOTUS would be on GMO's side!

Just fill in the blank, I mean why did the - MTSOs want to

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Leave in the first place? High taxes...Errr, no.

They wanted to leave in the first place because they could pay Indian MTs a fraction of what they are paying US MTs. Are any of you actually MTs?

So you think it's okay they get tax breaks for relocating their offices to India and moving costs, so they have people on site to facilitate the hiring and employment of Indian MTs, really?

This is a bill about NOT rewarding companies for doing things that hurt USA jobs and trying to reward companies by offering tax CREDITS for those who relocate back here in the US.

Do you really think the reason the MTSOs moved to India was high taxes, and do you really think it's a good thing that they get tax breaks for operating over there?

ESPECIALLY something as personal and private - sm

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as MEDICAL RECORDS??!!!!!

Link to Bill - see link

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link to voting record
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=2&vote=00249#position

They should get rid of the Export-Import Bank - too. It's a corrupt bank

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and should be gotten rid of.

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Never heard of this guy before. He sounds like quite a tool. He was listed #77 of "Most Important Talk Radio Hosts" by Talkers magazine in 2012. No big surprise there. Talk show host, Bill Press, doesn’t like the Star-Spangled Banner. Imagine: a liberal talk show that’s not on NPR! His radio show is simulcast on Current TV. Bill Press likes provoking conservatives, but I’m not sure we should be provoked by his outburst against the National Ant ...

Jun 29, 2012
This healthcare bill only has a few good things in it, but it was passed so it can insure 30 million people in america that don't have health insurance. there are 300 million people in the united states. The healthcare bill is not about health care or insurance at all, it's about making the government more powerful. Now they can tax our behavior. It's about expansion of government. Exerting behavioral control over american people. Th ...