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$3000 TAX CREDIT TO HIRE ILLEGALS
Posted: Feb 22, 2015
Too bad the defense of Koskinen was a waste of time for Libs. Thee is a $3000 tax credit, to hire illegals. Too bad your attempt at spin and indignation was not based on any FACTS!!
"Under the president’s new amnesty, businesses will have a $3,000-per-employee incentive to hire illegal immigrants over native-born workers because of a quirk of Obamacare.
President Obama’s temporary amnesty, which lasts three years, declares up to 5 million illegal immigrants to be lawfully in the country and eligible for work permits, but it still deems them ineligible for public benefits such as buying insurance on Obamacare’s health exchanges.
Under the Affordable Care Act, that means businesses who hire them won’t have to pay a penalty for not providing them health coverage — making them $3,000 more attractive than a similar native-born worker, whom the business by law would have to cover."
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/25/obama-amnesty-obamacare-clash-businesses-have-3000/#ixzz3SWeJ6MpA
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Can hardly wait to hear the Liberal spin on this. - The fact remains O pushes Illegals over Americans
[ In Reply To ..]Obama makes me sick. We're the ones paying for all the illegals and we're the ones getting screwed.
Republican extremists misrepresent again - from PolitiFact
[ In Reply To ..]Pulling off a stunt
First of all, not many businesses would be able to take advantage of this incentive. Fewer than 5 percent of businesses have more than 50 employees and are subject to the employer mandate, PolitiFact found in 2013. (Though of all people who work for a company, about 72 percent work for companies with 50 or more employees.)
On top of that, about 90 percent of companies with more than 50 employees already offer their employees health insurance, University of Michigan economist Thomas Buchmueller told PolitiFact.
So for there to be any Obamacare-induced incentive to hire illegal immigrants over citizens, many companies would have to decide that they want to stop offering health insurance.
Although this might save some money, it could cause problems for the business, said Timothy Jost, a health law professor at Washington and Lee University. Offering benefits comes with its own tax advantages, and it helps businesses attract talent and reduce absenteeism due to health issues.
Perhaps more restricting is the fact that these businesses could only employ illegal immigrants -- no citizens -- for this to work. That’s because the business is subject to a fine if even only one employee gets a subsidy.
In that case, the company would have to pay the employer mandate fine: $3,000 multiplied by the number of employees. (The tally would include all workers, even illegal immigrants.)
"The trigger for the employer mandate is that at least one of their full-time workers obtains a marketplace subsidy -- so the only way an employer could be sure would be to only hire permitted illegal immigrants," said Margaret Riley, a health law professor at the University of Virginia. "That seems pretty unlikely."
The employer mandate is unpopular among many, not just conservatives, so arguing that the employer mandate incentivizes hiring illegal immigrants over citizens is effective politically, Riley said. But it would be too risky for a business to take these steps and "pull off such a stunt."
"It is offered more as another argument against the employer mandate than as something that employers might actually try," she said.
Finally, the White House told us that employers are forbidden by law to hire or fire workers based on whether they qualify for health care subsidies, pointing to Section 1558 of the Affordable Health Care Act. The law provides for a complaint process if workers believe they've been discriminated against.
There’s a bit of irony in this whole debate. Mark Hall, a health law professor at Wake Forest University, said the obvious ways to get rid of the supposed Obamacare-induced incentive to hire illegal immigrants would leave a bad taste in many mouths.
The law could change to penalize businesses for not offering insurance, even if none of their workers get subsidized insurance on the marketplace. Or, lawmakers could allow illegal immigrants to qualify for insurance subsidies.
"I seriously doubt that those who make this point would actually want to adopt either of these corrective measures," Hall said.
Oh, now you've done it, you quoted law - professors and facts and stuff
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Yes, those pesky facts and stuff. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Everyone knows a $3,000 tax credit to hire illegals and the avoidance of paying a $3,000 tax penalty through illegal discriminatory hiring practices is exactly the same thing! Sarcasm alert.
Avoidance of paying ACA penalties by hiring illegals does not equal a tax incentive or credit for hiring illegals. Companies have been avoiding paying all kinds of employment taxes (workers' compensation, FICA, FUTA) by hiring illegals for decades, but the money they have been saving for doing so does not in any way constitute a tax incentive/credit in the amount they are saving by violating the law in hiring them.
Liberal spin = facts - nm
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Typical conservative drivel when ignoring facts. - Facts Matter
[ In Reply To ..]It's not spin at all. Conservatives claim to value truth, but when the truth is spelled out for them, they generally summarily dismiss the facts and usually start the name calling.
First off, President Obama delayed the employer mandate's penalty whereby these $3,000 fines would have to be paid until 2015 (and Republicans are suing him for it), and then he delayed them again until 2016 for small businesses.
http://www.businessinsider.com/obamacare-employer-mandate-delayed-2015-rules-2014-2
As we all know, most large employers already provided health insurance for their employees (sucky insurance for most of us MTs working for the MTSO's) way before Obamacare even existed. So this false scenario where employers are being paid ANYTHING by any name to employ an illegal over a citizen are nonexistent at this point.
It's a simple concept really; employers are NOT getting tax credits to employ illegals. There actually are classes of persons that employers actually DO get Work Opportunity Tax Credits to employ (see link below).
Employers can hire eligible employees from the following target groups for WOTC
* Unemployed Veterans (including disabled veterans)
* Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) Recipients
* Food Stamp (SNAP) Recipients
* Designated Community Residents (living in Empowerment Zones or Rural Renewal Counties)
* Vocational Rehabilitation Referred Individuals
* Ex-Felons
* Supplemental Security Income Recipients
* Summer Youth Employees (living in Empowerment Zones)
Now there is something people can really get angered about. Employers can actually receive tax credits for hiring ex-felons and food stamp recipients.
Freak out! There are a myriad of employment taxes that companies have avoided paying by hiring illegals that people could actually get freaked out about because it affects all Americans, but those aren't tax credits either; they are avoiding paying into Social Security, unemployment, and workers' compensation, etc., but it sure doesn't magically turn them into tax credits.
Truth.
Doesn't affect many - nm
[ In Reply To ..]According to the White House, “less than 0.2 percent of all firms (about 10,000 out of 6 million) may face employer responsibility requirements.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2014/12/does-aca-give-incentive-to-hire-immigrants/
BULL! SHOULD NOT AFFECT ONE AMERICAN - U GONNA VOLUNTEER 2 LOSE YOUR JOB?
[ In Reply To ..]if you even have one...likely could be part of gubment takers.
Perfect world, oh where are you? - xx
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Certainly not in the Liberal world version of utopia - xx
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and, y'all need to quit screaming or, at least in - the past, you would be reprimanded
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bwahahahaha - and the Liberal whining starts again
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Be specific - How many is acceptable to you?
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Y'ALL NEED A READING LESSON - TAX CREDIT SPECIFICALLY CITES "ILLEGAL"
[ In Reply To ..]Under the president’s new amnesty, businesses will have a $3,000-per-employee incentive to hire ***illegal immigrants*** over native-born workers because of a quirk of Obamacare."
GUESS Y'ALL ARE JUST INCAPABLE OF READING ANYTHING UNLESS IN ALL CAPS.
No the caps indicate your self-absorption - and self-importance
[ In Reply To ..]and are considered in blogging society to be shouting, which is why it has been requested people not do this. Your opinion is no more important than anyone else's opinion.
You're one to talk of self-absorption and self-importance - POT.KETTLE.BLACK.HAHHAHAHAHA
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provisional LEGAL status--law - sm
[ In Reply To ..]But those who gain provisional legal status under Obama’s immigration plan are not eligible for health care subsidies — leading some Republicans and conservative media outlets to say this creates an incentive for employers to hire those with provisional legal status over U.S. citizens.
http://www.factcheck.org/2014/12/does-aca-give-incentive-to-hire-immigrants/
CAPS used for emphasis.
Liberals are a scary bunch - There is not one
[ In Reply To ..]Legal USA citizen that should suffer in any way because of illegal aliens. They broke the law, they do not belong here. A law-abiding American is paying the price for someone else breaking the law. That is twisted logic. In other words, according to Liberals, I should be able to rob a bank, and they should have to do the time...I still get to keep the money.
No difference with what is going on with illegal aliens. Too bad it cannot be so that only the Liberals that support this crap lose their jobs. Maybe then, then would get a clue.
I'm pretty sure they are talking about immigrants - who are here by law
[ In Reply To ..]or the employers had better not be hiring them to begin with. It's all pretty moot, if they are hiring illegals.
PRETTY SURE YOU DID NOT BOTHER TO **READ** - CLEARLY STATES "ILLEGALS"
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That's because it is a conservative publication - that assumes all immigrants
[ In Reply To ..]are illegals.
you're the only one assuming things NOT in the article - Flame Away - what you try to do best
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Don't forget the Syrians coming in. - Jobs for Jihadis!!
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Xenophobia alive and well. The Syrian refugees - are not Jihadis
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And you KNOW this how? - SM
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She doesn't. - nm
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and how do you know they are? and feel comfortable - with the glib Jobs for Jihadis
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I don't. But they need to be kept out, not let in. - Asking for trouble. Jobs for J's.
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Now how on earth do you know that? They are training - 5 year olds to be Jihadis.
[ In Reply To ..]Their dads must be so proud. Seriously.
Conservative Critical Thinking Skills - sm
[ In Reply To ..]I see John McCain and Lindsey Graham on a regular basis flapping their gums on television about how we are doing NOTHING to help the poor Syrians or the poor Ukrainians or the poor people of ___________ (fill in name of poor people who need our help here) and how we should be bombing or providing arms to help the poor people of _________ (wherever) in order to help them against their evil enemies.
John McCain is ashamed, got that, ASHAMED of himself and his country, blah, blah, blah.
Reporter: But John, aren't you concerned we might be supplying arms to terrorists?
John: These are poor people who need the leadership of the USA to not lead from behind and provide our help, blah, blah, blah. America should lead this effort.
Say, America, here's an idea: Since there are upwards of 3.5 million Syrian refugees, the international communities are pulling together for resettlement of these poor people around the globe. Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, Germany, Algeria, Sweden, Bahrain, Libya, Bulgaria, Brazil, Romania, Argentina, Russia, Gaza Strip, Armenia, France, Macedonia, Columbia, Uruguay, and Mexico are all opening their doors for resettlement of these poor Syrians. How many will the United States be taking in?
Conservatives: Seriously? We can't take these people in; are you NUTS? How do we know they're not terrorists!
It boggles my mind on a daily basis how conservatives don't seem to be able to put 2 plus 2 together. It's an easy equation really. How do poor people all over the world that we care so much about that we need to bomb, bomb, bomb, and go to war on their behalf and/or send guns and bombs and weapons to help their poor souls then suddenly turn into terrorists when they need a place to live because theirs was BOMBED out of existence.
Think about that, please.
Bet the illegals are nicer people - I'd hire them too
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This reinforces Rudy's statements. - SM
[ In Reply To ..]Nuff said.
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