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Feds dangle $12,000 bonus to firms that hire foreign students.


Posted: Oct 21, 2015

expand a program that pays U.S. employers to hire foreign STEM students taught in America, a move that could end up punishing American college grads and even the elderly, according to an immigration think tank. Currently, the program urges companies to hire STEM students for a year. CIS said firms are paid up to $10,000 to participate. The new proposal, said CIS, is to add on another year and $2,000 in bonuses. More at washingtonexaminer.com ;

They don't have to pay any sort of Social Security taxes, - Medicare taxes, Obamacare taxes

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or unemployment taxes. This makes them much more desirable than domestic employees. Also, the affirmative action mandate is met by employing them. Finally, the companies can face sanctions, fines, and even criminal action if they do not hire H1B visa holders.

With DHS having jurisdiction over such a program, do we even need Congress anymore?

They don't have to pay SS taxes, Medicare - and others but

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they also have not much of anything. They do not have health care, they do not have retirement funds, no food stamps, no welfare, no Medicare when elderly, enough money to eek by on and pay rent and food only and barely that. I know a family of 5 that this applies to. The husband does tree work, cutting down, tries to work year round even in the winter outside, the wife does domestic jobs. The kids want things that the parents do not have the money for but as the mother told me living here is better than the threat of being murdered where they did live, always looking over your back.

It's been obvious for quite a while now, the left in Europe and America - intend to destroy Western Civilization

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by leaving the gates open from within. We will fight or perish. The debate is over.

Illegals essentially get to stay here without being deported, creating a large Democrat voting base.

I have known of 2 people deported before - It took them about 2 days

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to make their way back to the border and back in the US. I personally was shocked it took no more time than that. One day in Mexico and the next back again. If people want to get here there is basically no way they will be stopped. Where there's a will, there's a way. There is one thing I want to know though, how can a non-documented person vote here when they cannot get a job without US identification, and the other things American citizens have, like food stamps, welfare, SS and the like.
Identify theft. CA driver's license for voting since ILLEGALS can get them now - Truthhurts
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Since we are talking about identify theft - my friend has had her
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children's (she is undocumented, they were born here) social security numbers hijacked and someone has been using the numbers to get more back on their income tax. Now, this has to be a US citizen because undocumented Hispanics, for the most part, do not work at jobs where SS is taken out, taxes etc. and do not file income tax. See, identify theft can work more than one way.

Demographic warfare is being waged on the United States. - Expecting the politicians and

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to correct the problem is useless. It will only get worse. For every one who tries to fix the problem, another one will come along and make it worse.

College students are being lied to. They are being told to focus on science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) careers, while their own government is undermining their efforts by giving bonuses to companies that hire foreign students.

Then, as more and more foreign students are hired (just as with H1B), the average American will be convinced that the foreigners must be smarter and Americans just cannot cut it. And the ruse will continue...

Reading now what Trump had to say about H1Bs... and liking what I'm reading.

Why do we have so many ESL physicians? - sm

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Don't we have people who are educated enough from the US?

Are they employed over Americans for a bonus of $12,000? - The report said firms are

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being paid to hire foreign students for STEM jobs, not doctors.

I would like to know why there are so many ESL physicians - ?

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Aren't they foreign workers? I don't care about the bonus. Where are the American docs?
I guess it's the republicans fault, war on doctors. - They seem to get blamed for everything
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else.
Why are there so many ESL doctors? - (This is a question)
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I do not know how else to ask this. No deflections, just answers please.
Because there are not enough American doctor to fill the need. - nm
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I think there is a shortage of family docs, as many go into - a speciality like cardiology or
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orthopedics.
That's because of quotas - Truthhurts
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Congress controls the supply of physicians by how much federal funding it provides for medical residencies — the graduate training required of all doctors.

In 1997, to save money and prevent a doctor glut, Congress capped the number of residents that Medicare will pay for at about 80,000 a year. Another 20,000 residents are financed by the Veterans Administration and Medicaid, the state-federal health care program for the poor. Teaching hospitals pay for a small number of residents without government assistance.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-03-02-doctor-shortage_x.htm
Just like there are not enough transcriptionists in the US? - ....
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One reason is socialized medicine. They can make more money here. - In some cases, the US pays doctors to train here
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or their own countries, but they choose to stay here instead rather than going back to their own countries. (source PBS).

I'll have to do more research later. I don't have time right now.
Thank you - sm
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Although I do not understand your "socialized" medicine comment. Most of our health care is private insurance--including Obamacare health insurance exchanges. I guess Medicare and MA could be considered semi-socialized, although you choose your provider and Medicare is a benefit we have all paid into for protection in our old age. MA is primarily for the disabled and children in poverty. I guess the VA system is really only the "true socialism" because they have designated hospitals, but I think the doctors are military?

I would appreciate what your research has to say. I would have loved to have been a doctor, but never thought I could afford to go to school for that long without any financial support. I think that many of the Indian and Asian docs have a lot of family putting them through school and that the docs then send money home. I may be wrong on this, though.
Socialized medicine, like in the UK, means that doctors are - essentially a govt employee, so
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their income is static.

One of the problems with the socialized system is - the long waiting list. The VA is a
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good example of this. There is also rationing, as well a shortages of vaccines/medications.
I guess Bush did not plan on the huge influx of vets - see message
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when he sent our soldiers into Iraq. it seems crazy that with all the money the pentagon wastes, that the soldiers are not cared for. The pentagon budget should be like the school budgets--accounted for.
Jamie Gorelick, a member of Bill Clinton's adminstration, - set up a wall so the CIA and FBI
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could not share info with each other. The wall was set up to hide the fact that Clinton was getting campaign money from China (illegal).

Bill Clinton make the case against Saddam and weapons of mass destruction in 1998 in 1999.

If you want to blame someone, blame Clinton for paving the way.
I would have loved to have been a doctor, but my - math skills aren't good enough,
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chemistry especially.
I had the skills but no family support - see message
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I lived in a rural area and just did not have the resources such as transportation, housing, etc., to feel that such a long time commitment was feasible. Too busy just surviving without dealing with the cost and the study time needed to be a good doctor.
Quotas is the short answer. - Truthhurts
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I read somewhere a couple years ago that the some medical agency or government agency will only allow so many doctors to be graduated from American medical colleges each year.

The following article is about foreign doctors. It also boils down to quotas.


http://www.nejmcareercenter.org/minisites/rpt/physicians-and-immigration-faq/
I think it's about the money...increased tuition that is. - sm
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DS is in med school and preference this year seemed to be for OOS and out of country students who paid full price for tuition. The hype is that applicants from say India and China have exceptional MCAT scores and (whatever their equivalent) GPA's. It's not true...the posted averages for the class do not rise but, I think the money incoming for the student body is doubled (and maybe tripled).

The problem is that a lot of hospitals don't like non-native English speakers so the rotation can be tricky. But I think mostly it's a cash bonanza for the schools.

Apparently we need foreign STEM students - Technology

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Because Americans are not educated enough or do not have enough motivation to develop the technology to protect our infrastructure "grids," stop hackers, and develop new technology products.

Reaping the rewards of the Republican war on public education.

Liberals have been in charge of the education system for years. - You can't blame this on republicans.

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73% of 8th graders don't know much about geography.

On another note, cheating students are more likely to get a job in the government. Lowest common denominator and all that...

My Republican run state is destroying the education system - sm

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Teachers are leaving in droves, there are cut backs in bus transportation leaving parents in rural areas in a lurch. Language programs are being cut. I can see how our kids will just be working at McDonald's and Walmart while the foreign people will have all the good jobs, and it is our fault. I do not think my state will be red after the next election, though.
Progressives answer to eveything, more money. When that doesn't work, - blame republicans and call it
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"war on women" or "war on education"

Another reason to homeschool.

And when they get more money, it's never enough. - Then a few years later they want more
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My property taxes in my state keep going up to pay for schools and I home-schooled my children. That's wrong. I feel for the families who send their kids to Catholic school. They have to pay for that, on top of paying high property taxes for public schools.

Why do elite politicians send their children to Sidwell Friends School?
Increasing class sizes--no classroom supplies - Public money for basketball stadiums
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Thanks Republican governor, ex-Koch boy, Walker.
My Democrat governor refuses to sign off on a budget - Truthhurts
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because it doesn't contain income and sales tax increases. The schools have NO money because there is NO budget. This has been going on since June.

He has even vetoed a separate temporary education funding bill so the schools can keep running until a budget is passed.

The US spends approximately $12,000 a year per student, yet - we fall behind on tests.

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Add that up and it's in the billions, and that before college.

I guess the question is does more money equate with academic achievement.

Public spending is at an all time high, but I don't see how this has improved learning.
The cost per pupil varies widely by state....sm - VTMT
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$6000+ to $19,000+ This website gives stats by state, 10 highest and 10 lowest and graduation rates. The article is from 2014.

Who in the U.S. government is representing the U.S. - citizen?

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Our own tax money goes to pay to take jobs away - from us. What a country.

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Adios America.

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