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Why would Republicans cut back the IRS?


Posted: Apr 13, 2011

Apparently 30 to 40% of Americans cheat on their taxes.   Makes you wonder if the Republican/T-partiers are more concerned with possible jail time or actually cutting the deficit. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/11/irs-funding-cuts-congress_n_847741.html

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really - icedT

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Tax cheats are not just Republican. I don't even think it's a political party thing. These are the few names that first came to mind: Charlie Rangel, Tim Geitner, Tom Daschle, Nancy Killefer, Hilda Solis, and Kathleen Sebelius had some tax problems too.

Those in glass houses...

Republicans want to defund--Obama wanted to step up enforcement - nm

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Ahem....his treasury secretary is a tax cheat. - and who is the boss of

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of those IRS agents? The Treasury secretary. The fox is in charge of the hen house. lol.
Who cares about the treasury secretary?! Fine him! Fire him! Throw him in jail! - We have bigger problems that are not partisan
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This na na na na stuff has got to stop so we can actually solve some of these problems. It's like children saying, "He hit me first!" Who cares!

What does matter is fixing the problems. I couldn't care less about personalities. If the guy does something illegal, fine him, throw him in jail! Apparently he figured his taxes wrong using one of the do-it-yourself programs. He may(or may not) be an academic genius with no common sense. Time will tell. He's not the issue though, but it's a great way to stop the conversation and get political rather than find solutions.
You talk about childishness and yet the - OP blames pubs
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for wanting to cut back IRS because of tax cheats. I'm sorry but in my opinion we shouldn't point fingers because there is plenty of blame to go around in all political parties as well as all classes in our country when it comes to cheating on taxes.

However, Tim Geithner is a good example of why are tax code doesn't work properly. He said the tax code was confusing and it was an accident. Whether that is true or not...whatever...that is neither here nor there. The point is that he is right. The tax code is confusing.

My personal opinion is that we need to do away with the Bush tax cuts for all. I know...I know...I'm like the only conservative who believes that...but I do.

The simplest solution to our tax problem is to make the code simple. Let's say I make 30K a year and Mr. Fancy Pants millionaire makes 2 mil a year. Let's say we both pay a tax of 10% of our income. So I would pay 3K in taxes and Mr. Fancy Pants would pay 200,000. Take out the loopholes.

That would bring in more revenue than raising taxes on the wealthier people and all classes would be paying their fair share. Simple...easy...doable. I just don't understand why so many people don't get it.
Well, I see your point, and here's the way I view it - from what I have read
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I've been reading that it was proposed to add more IRS agents to collect, since the numbers have shown that, as was said earlier, for every $1 paid to IRS salaries, $10 is collected of revenue to run our country. I think that's a good return on our investment.
Apparently you missed the part about reducing the budget deficit - Now that is adult.
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Have been saying that all along...no one - wants to listen. nm
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nm
How are you going to enforce it when Geithner - is the boss and he
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says he accidentally cheated because the code is confusing. That right there sets the standard for anyone caught to use that excuse...hey, it worked for him, and he is the treasury secretary. Sorry, I see a huge conflict of interest there.

However, I do agree with a flat tax. If there are no loopholes to cheat with, it would greatly reduce any possible cheating. And instead of extra IRS agents, we could put that money against the 14 trillion dollar deficit we are running that people keep ignoring like it doesn't exist.
FINALLY...someone who gets it. - Thanks.
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The problem with Tim using the he made a mistake excuse is that that kind of excuse only works for politicians and rich people. If little peons like myself tried that, I'd be in jail. ;)

Flat tax is the correct and smart way to go. Raising taxes isn't going to correct the problem at hand. Just saying.
Fortunately, he doesn't make the rules - nm
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nm
He DOES make the rules for tax collection - enforcement...he is the
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Treasury Secretary.

However, tax law is made by Congress. Congress created the loopholes they are complaining about....and the Dems have no room to talk about no-tax-paying rich people. They have had control of the Ways and Means Committee (where tax bills are written up) and the Dems have had that committee majority 44 of the last 55 years. And they have NEVER done one darn thing about closing loopholes, in fact, continued to create them.

Yep...the foxes are definitely loose in the henhouse.
the need to care - icedT
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I care about the treasury secretary not being able to do his taxes with TurboTax. His qualifications do concern me.  The criticism wasn't meant to be just that - criticism. It wasn't meant to be "acting like children."  Because it's not something that all agree with doesn't make it childish.


 


Based on his orchestration of much of this year’s financial bailouts in his current post, Geithner would be “more of the same” of the worst aspects of the Bush administration — more bailouts, more lack of transparency in the bailouts, and more corporate welfare.

As head of the New York Fed, Geithner has been, in The Washington Post’s words “a primary architect of the Bush administration’s response to the financial crisis,” and “has worked closely with [Paulson]to devise responses to the most critical events of the market turmoil.”

    Other than organizing bailouts, however, Geithner’s resume is quite thin compared to that of others who have held the office for which he has been nominated. As liberal columnist Robert Kuttner noted recently in TheAmerican Prospect, Geithner “has neither a doctorate in economics nor an M.B.A.”

    Also, Geithner has never been a corporate leader, nor an economics professor with a trail of published academic papers. Instead, Geithner’s career has been almost entirely in the bowels of the bureaucracy. He started at the Treasury Department in 1988 as a career civil servant before being appointed under-secretary of the Treasury for international affairs in 1999.

    Geithner would not have even been under consideration had he not come to prominence in circumventing rules to arrange the bailout of Bear Stearns’ creditors earlier this year, with $29 billion in backing from U.S taxpayers.

    According to accounts from both conservative columnist Robert Novak and the financial magazine Conde Nast Portfolio, Geithner was the main instigator of the bailout, getting Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke to sign on to his handiwork.

    The Bear deal faced criticism from the Left and Right as both a stretch of the Fed’s power and a precedent that spread “moral hazard,” thus leading to the further bailouts down the line — bailouts that Geithner would be heavily involved in, working hand-in glove with Paulson.

    But in addition to the questionable results of bailouts in saving the economy, also troubling has been the Federal Reserve’s lack of openness when it has put taxpayer money on the line, an area where Geithner shares much of the blame.

    A recent editorial in The Wall Street Journal noting that “Geithner was the driving force behind the government takeover of insurance giant AIG” also criticized “the New York Fed’s lack of transparency, both about the nature of the ‘systemic risk’ that required the takeover and why it was superior to bankruptcy.”

    Geithner’s judgment has also been questioned with recent reports of alleged favoritism toward Citigroup — the financial firm where Geithner’s mentor, former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, serves as a director and senior counselor.

    According to a Bloomberg News report, Geithner unsuccessfully pushed for Citi to take over troubled banker Wachovia Corp. with government guarantees of billions of dollars, even after Wells Fargo & Co. offered to take over the company at no cost to taxpayers and a higher price for Wachovia shareholders.

If they went to a flat tax and got rid - of loopholes

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Everyone would pay their fair share, it would be harder to cheat on your taxes as it would be pretty cut and dry, and you wouldn't need the IRS or at least not as big of a group in the IRS.

Raising taxes on the rich isn't gonna close the loopholes they use to get out of paying taxes.

GESTAPO - AvidReader

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Some of us are old enough to remember that GESTAPO tactics that were employed when the IRS was "fully funded." Targeted taxpayers were so overwrought they COMMITTED SUICIDE, and it was the Clinton administration, I believe, who put a stop to it.

The FUNDAMENTAL issue here is that GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK FOR US, which unfortunately has been forgotten.
Did anyone say hire the gestapo? NO! I heard, "Hire more IRS agents and - let them do their job
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Nobody said that anything illegal would be accepted or allowed. Last time I checked, the IRS agents work for us and are part of the good guys. Obviously nobody wants to be audited, because it takes time and we always tend to stress out if someone is auditing us, even when we haven't done anything wrong, and there are, just like in anything else, good and bad IRS agents. I've personally known one that was nice, although his wife was a maniac, and another one who was charming! I still don't want to be audited, but that's part of the system we live under, in order to make money to keep our country running. Tax revenues run our country.
How about the lady on the news last night? - Backwards Typist
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She owed $3400 in taxes and paid. Watch what happened.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/womans-fight-irs-13360674

Not the OP and I don't care which party the tax cheaters belong to - Get that revenue coming in because we need it!

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The only revenue we have comes from tax payments. It doesn't matter if they are Democrats, Republicans, Independents, or who knows what! If everyone would pay their fair share of taxes, that would be a giant step toward fixing what's wrong with our economy. It wouldn't hurt to have bridges and overpasses that aren't falling down too. In our state things are so bad that cars have been hit by chunks of concrete while going under highways, because they have cut taxes so much that we can't afford to pay for infrastructure. Assign the appropriate amount of taxes, collect them, and move on! We certainly can do better than we have been doing.

The boss of those IRS agents is a tax - cheat himself.

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first step would be fire him and hire somebody who is invested.

This is one that really puzzles me. Get those IRS agents out there and let them do their work! - Revenue Rules!

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What is revenue? Money that we collect in taxes. Then let's get those agents out there collecting.

For every $1 spent to hire IRS agents, they collect $10.

That's REVENUE and we need it!

Their boss (Geithner) is a tax cheat - himself. Think he should

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be fired as a starting point.

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