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When will Stein give up her ridiculous recounts?
Posted: Dec 4, 2016
She dropped the state lawsuit against PA but is filing a FEDERAL lawsuit Monday. What does she expect to accomplish? Nothing!
Former Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein withdrew her statewide recount effort in Pennsylvania on Saturday after a Commonwealth Court judge mandated that the 100 voters who brought the suit on the campaign's behalf post a $1 million bond to press on with the challenge. (Comment: Philadelphia did start a recount but the results didn't changein favor of Clinton and certainly not Stein. She doesn't have the 5% of votes necessary to even START a recount. Why Philadelphia started it is beyond me. The better stop NOW because it's illegal without the bond money up front.)
In court documents filed ending the petition shortly before 5 p.m., an attorney for the Stein campaign wrote: "Petitioners are regular citizens of ordinary means. They cannot afford to post the $1,000,000 bond required by the Court."
The abrupt halt to the campaign's strategy comes less than one week after Stein asked a Pennsylvania court to approve a statewide recount, contending the Nov. 8 election was "illegal" and the results inaccurate.
She’s saying it’s unconstitutional to pay that bond. Bull. Those bonds are to stop frivolous recounts like hers. If they find problems with the count, then the money is refunded. She's just full of excuses and bulls because she doesn't want to give that money up. PERIOD!
Where did the almost $7 million go that she stated was specifically to pay the costs of recounts? Well, here’s one answer. “Under state law, the recount must begin this week as long as Stein or another candidate pays the $3.5 million estimated cost of the recount by Tuesday, election officials said.
Wisconsin started a recount but as far as I know, she never paid the $3.5 million there. Is she starting a lawsuit against that state against the cost? Haven’t heard a thing on that, have you?
Even Ed. Rendell (D), a former PA governor says the effort is "a waste of time."
"Jill Stein has not cited in Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania any explicit, concrete evidence that there was fraud," Rendell said in an interview with radio host John Catsimatidis airing Sunday. "In fact, the secretary of State of Pennsylvania, who is under a Democratic governor and who was coincidentally my secretary of State when I was governor, says there’s no evidence of any voter fraud," Rendell added. "So I think the suits are a waste of time, they are not going to change the results," he added.
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From WI - Me
[ In Reply To ..]She paid her 3.5 million, which was the first estimate, but they realized it will be closer to 3.9, but they said she could pay the 3.5 to get going, but she will have to pay the full cost once the recount is over and they have all the totals for the OT. I doubt we in WI will ever see that unless our state takes her to court!
Not sure what her motivation is...SM - Old Anon
[ In Reply To ..]but I personally think she is doing this just to get her name out there in the national public eye for her next presidential run. Which one is it, number 3?
Sore loser? - Me.
[ In Reply To ..]My husband, a week ago, said you watch; she's mounting something bigger. She's going to take this to the courts. And lo and behold. One who runs for POTUS should not be able to "pay" or otherwise for a recount unless you lost by a certain percentage point. These machines, how can they be "tampered" with by Russia? They are not even connected to the internet. Good grief, Charlie Brown....
It's not Hillary who said this - OABO
[ In Reply To ..]Our own NSA as well as other security officials have stated they believe the Russians interfered with the election. Of course, you probably won't believe this because Obama is still in office but if they are still saying it after Jan. 20 you might feel it has some merit.
I believe they're talking about Stein. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]That's my take from reading the previous posts.
There are a few other posts - OABO
[ In Reply To ..]or maybe just one that said it was a rumor started by HC.
You might want to check into Waukesha County and double voting - forTrump
[ In Reply To ..]and while you are at it, check into the voting machines that had their seals broken.
Would not put anything past Scotty, he is second only to Christie in the corruption game.
Recount is not frivolous - H2o
[ In Reply To ..]If one thinks recounting of voters votes is frivolous, then I would say you live in the wrong country. Voter are entitled to know that the voting process is secure and fair, that is called democracy. If so many "illegals" voted, I would think the Trump camp would welcome the audits to prove what he said is true.
Accountability to the people is what this country "was" built on. What is wrong with trying to maintain at least that one issue of democracy?? Unless you just follow and live on every word spoken by the media. I personally like to see "facts" especially being a law abiding citizen. Now if you lived in Russia, then you would not be privy to democracy now would you. So don't knock it. You didn't pay for the recount, what is there to fear?
You're kidding, right? You think anyone can ask for a recount? NO they can't - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]I have nothing against recounts IF THE RULES ARE FOLLOWED and the race is close like it was in 2004. But, Jill Stein has NO grounds to stand on.
Most states have rules and regulations regarding WHO can ask for a recount and what they must pay for that recount.
Jill Stein does NOT qualify for recounts in most states becasue she didn't garner either .05% or 1% of the votes. I don't have the statistics in front of me but look up the rules.
Especially Michigan. She wasn't a recount because the machines might have been hacked???? That's a lie because they use PAPER BALLOTS. Recounts initiated by a close vote margin (2,000) are mandatory if the close vote margin is triggered, but only at the statewide level. Was Stein at 2,000 vote close to the other candidates? candidates must pay a $25 per precinct deposit for each precinct listed in the petition when they petition for a recount. She wants the whole state to be recounted. i don't know how many precincts there are but I think I read (somewhere) that she had to put of a $3.5 million bond (or ws that Wisconsin?).
The vote totals that will be submitted to the state Canvassers Board on Nov. 28 were:
Donald J. Trump, Republican: 2,279,543
Hillary Clinton, Democratic: 2,268,839
Gary Johnson, Libertarian: 172,136
Jill Stein, Green: 51,463
Did Jill Stein come within 2000 votes of even Gary Johnson? Doesn't look like it. So why is she being allowed to call for a recount?
As for PA, that's ridiculous, too.
The results of Trump's win are even higher;
Donald J. Trump 2,959,839
Hillary Clinton 2,895,436
Gary Johnson 145,902
Jill Stein 49,622
Others 68,040
...and she doesn't want to pay the reqauired $1 million bond to cover over 9100 districts. Tell me where she says she can't afford it after collecting over $7 million. She's laying the cost on the VOTERS, not herself. Where did that $7 million go?
Wisconsin was dumb for starting a recount without valid reasons, and if you say hacking can be done in these states, I'm afraid you're don't understand the internet and hacking very well. Maybe a little research would help. :)
BTW, Even the former Governor Rendell of PA AND - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]the present Governor Wolf stated (since you evidently didn't read that paragraph) so here is the paragraph again.
"Jill Stein has not cited in Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania any explicit, concrete evidence that there was fraud," Rendell said in an interview with radio host John Catsimatidis airing Sunday.
"In fact, the secretary of State of Pennsylvania, who is under a Democratic governor and who was coincidentally my secretary of State when I was governor, says there’s no evidence of any voter fraud," Rendell added. "So I think the suits are a waste of time, they are not going to change the results," he added.
Except this is NOT an audit - This is just a recount
[ In Reply To ..]An audit would make sense especially in states such as California where there are massive numbers of illegals. An audit would reveal fraud but recounting just counts the votes again. What is the point of that? It is not going to make Stein the winner. The margin of votes is to wide to make Hillary the winner, no matter how many times you count the votes. So who benefits? Certainly not the taxpayers!
It's more than a little bit precious when Democrats start - talking about voter fraud.
[ In Reply To ..]They, who have made a fine art of stealing elections (last governor's race in Virginia comes to mind) suddenly start preaching a gospel that they themselves don't believe in.
I'm down for a nationwide recount - WITH VOTER ELIGIBILITY VERIFICATION FOR EVERY BALLOT.
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Note to Democrats, who have forgotten: "Eligible voter" = a US citizen who is not dead, has not lost voting rights by reason of incompetence, renunciation of citizenship, treason or felony, who is registered to vote, and who votes once.
Democrat: "Really? Gotta be a citizen? Gotta be living? Not ineligible to vote? Registered? Voting only once?"
The LAW: "Yes, I'm afraid so."
Democrat: "Well....nevermind."
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Probable outcome (and Dems know it, which is why they're so picky about WHICH recounts they want): Clinton not only lost the election but she lost the popular vote as well.
The LEGITIMATE popular vote, I mean.
I'm ready to dance whenever the Dems start the music. Nationwide recount with voter verification. We'll punch their lights out once and for all.
(Incidentally, even the LA Times agrees that Trump has a margin of victory in the closest state that is 17 times the largest margin of victory that was ever overturned by a recount.)
Come on, Dems. Let's rumble. It will just be another nail in your coffin - and no one will mourn your demise.
Their ticket was canceled from one end of the country to the other - with a few notable exceptions
[ In Reply To ..]...and this recount thing proves that they don't have the faintest clue why. I predict that by the next midterm elections the smackdown will be complete. If they don't figure out why, it will also be a very long time before they recover.
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