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What I find ironic


Posted: Feb 22, 2011

is that the very people screaming support for unions and complaining their rights are being taken away, etc.  What about the people who live in a forced unionism state and are forced to join a union?   Where are their rights?  Where are their choices? 

Right-to-Work laws do not force employees out of unions but allows them to opt-out of union membership if they want to and does nothing to ban unions from the Right-to-Work states. It simply gives the employee an option. Not only that but workers are moving out of union states to Right-to-Work states and Right-to-Work states have experiences 23% faster per capita income from 1977 to 2007. Not only that employees are not forced to pay fees to a union that only supports one political party.

Right-to-work states outperform forced-union states in almost every measurable category of worker well-being.

  • A study in the Cato Journal by economist Richard Vedder finds that from 2000 to 2008 some 4.7 million Americans moved from forced-union to right-to-work states.
  • The study also found that from 1977 through 2007 there was "a very strong and highly statistically significant relationship between right-to-work laws and economic growth."
  • Right-to-work states experienced a 23 percent faster rise in per capita income over that period.
  • The two regions that have lost the most jobs in recent years, the once-industrial Northeast and Midwest, are mostly forced-union states.

Right-to-work laws make states more economically competitive, but the bigger issue is about individual rights.  Workers should have the right to join a union but also the right not to.

Here's a comparison of right-to-work-states vs. forced unionism states for real economic growth in 2009:
Right-to-work states: -1.66%
Forced unionism states: -2.42%
All states: -2.14%
In other words, the decline in economic growth in forced unionism states (-2.42%) was 0.76% worse in 2009 than the decline in right-to-work states (-1.66%).  Further, of the ten states that experienced positive growth in 2009, only two were forced unionism states (Alaska and W. Virginia) and eight were right-to-work states (Nebraska, N. Dakota, S. Dakota, Arkansas, Louisiana, Virginia, Oklahoma and Wyoming).  The three top states with the highest growth in 2009 were all right-to-work states: Oklahoma (6.6%), Wyoming (5.4%) and North Dakota (3.9%).    

So....which is better....forced unionism states or right-to-work states.  From the research I've done..it seems that forced unionism has actually hurt states rather than helped them.

Also...as a side note...I'd like to know if the MIA democrats in WI have fled the state and are staying in hotels, etc....is that money out of their pocket or the taxpayers?  Just a thought.

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Yay, for Right to Work! - who needs an education?

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Only 5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal. Those states and their ranking on ACT/SAT scores are as follows. (By the way, Wisconsin is #2.)
South Carolina -50th
North Carolina -49th
Georgia -48th
Texas -47th
Virginia -44th

Wow. Those are some interesting stats. - sm

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Then again, it comes as no surprise that union members aim for higher standards not only in their wages, benefits, working and safety conditions, but also in their job performance.

Are you reading the same stats I am? - sm

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Because what I see is that forced unionism states have lower economic growth and less production. If Unions were all about job performance, their production wouldn't be down in union states compared to right-to-work states.
And what stats would those be? Why not post them instead of - inventing them out of thin air. nm
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nm

Wisconsin has low participation - percentage in ACT/SAT

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Wisconsin ranks 3rd in the nation in SAT scores, but with a participation rate of just 4%. On the ACT, with a much more representative partcipation rate of 69%, it was tied for 17th. In comparisonâ€Â¦

â€Â¢Virginia was 34th on the SAT with 67% participation, 13th on the ACT with 22% participation.
â€Â¢Texas was 45th on the SAT with 53% participation, 33rd on the ACT with 33% participation.
â€Â¢Georgia was 48th on the SAT with 74% participation, 34th on the ACT with 44% participation.
â€Â¢North Carolina was 38th on the SAT with 63% participation, 20th on the ACT with 16% participation.
â€Â¢South Carolina was 49th on the SAT with 66% participation, 44th on the ACT with 52% participation.
Wisconsin is clearly above the other five states in both SAT and ACT scores, but the gap isn’t anywhere near as big as the pro-union tweets suggest. Among high ACT participation states, Wisconsin ranks something like 4th in the nation. But among high SAT participation states, Virginia ranks about 5th in the nation — almost all the states with better SAT scores than Virginia have far smaller participation rates, drawing on a far more elite test-taking group.

You fail to answer my question - sm

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about the rights of those workers who do not wish to join a union but are forced. You all talk about rights being taken away...it appears that many Americans have already had their rights taken away by being forced to join a union. I guess their rights aren't important, huh?

Why should public employees not have the same rights as private? - nm

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