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Sen, Feinstein a wee bit ticked because the Intelligence Committee
Posted: Nov 13, 2012
Committee was not informed of the FBI investigation. What the heck is going on with the government? None of the various departments seem to work together anymore. They keep all info to their own department. No cooperation with each other. Why do they even have an Intelligence Committee if they aren't kept informed of situations?
Why did this Kelley woman get an almost instant FBI investigation? Because SHE's got an in with the FBI. Me thinks Kelley woman may have a grudge against either Broadwell and/or Patraeus. All we can do is listen to all the stories and try to figure out the truth.
Anyway, Sen. Feinstein must have had to take a blood pressure med when she found out their committee wasn't informed of this investigation. They should have known from the very beginning. I hope she racks the guilty party or parties over the coals or at least give them a good tongue lashing.
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Congressional leaders are calling for an explanation of why they weren't notified sooner of the FBI's inquiry when it became clear Petraeus was involved.
Leaders of the House Intelligence Committee are expected to meet Wednesday with acting CIA Director Mike Morell and FBI Deputy Director Sean Joyce to discuss the Petraeus investigation and congressional oversight.
Sen. Diane Feinstein, the Democratic chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said on "Fox News Sunday" that she would "absolutely" push for answers.
"I mean, this is something that could have had an effect on national security," she said. "I think we should have been told. There is a way to do it. And that is, just to inform the chair and the vice chairman of both committees, to -- this has happened before, not with precise, same things, but, none of the four of us have ever breached that confidentiality."
On Monday, Feinstein told NBC that her concern about the situation "has actually escalated the last few days."
"...A decision was made somewhere not to brief us, which is atypical," Feinstein said. "This is certainly an operationally sensitive matter. But we weren't briefed. I don't know who made that decision."
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That's about it, except that the FBI and CIA - NEVER DID work together or
[ In Reply To ..]with whoever were their current bosses and overseers in the White House and Congress. Powerful entrenched interests more concerned with themselves and opposed to change make sure of it. This may just shatter a few kingdoms, though. Hope, hope.
Oh, you're right. I forgot about that. - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]Wasn't that part of the problem with the first 9/11? I think I remember an investigation finding that blamed both FBI and the CIA for not alerting each other of the threats.
Okay, here's part of the report entitled Foresight and Hindsight following 9/11:
From 1998 to 2001, a number of very good analytical papers were distributed on specific topics. These included Bin Ladin’s political philosophy, his command of a global network, analysis of information from terrorists captured in Jordan in December 1999,al Qaeda’s operational style, and the evolving goals of the Islamist extremist movement. Many classified articles for morning briefings were prepared for the highest officials in the government with titles such as “Bin Ladin Threatening to Attack US Aircraft [with antiaircraft missiles]” (June 1998),“Strains Surface Between Taliban and Bin Ladin”(January 1999), “Terrorist Threat to US Interests in Caucasus” (June 1999), “Bin Ladin to Exploit Looser Security During Holidays”(December 1999),“Bin Ladin Evading Sanctions”(March 2000),“Bin Ladin’s Interest in Biological, Radiological Weapons” (February 2001), “Taliban Holding Firm on Bin Ladin for Now” (March 2001),“Terrorist Groups Said Cooperating on US Hostage Plot”(May 2001), and “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in the US” (August 2001).5
Considering what was not done suggests possible ways to institutionalize imagination. To return to the four elements of analysis just mentioned:
1. The CTC (Counterterrorist Center) did not analyze how an aircraft, hijacked or explosives-laden, might be used as a weapon. It did not perform this kind of analysis from the enemy’s perspective (“red team” analysis), even though suicide terrorism had become a principal tactic of Middle Eastern terrorists. If it had done so, we believe such an analysis would soon have spotlighted a critical constraint for the terrorists—finding a suicide operative able to fly large jet aircraft.They had never done so before 9/11.
2. The CTC did not develop a set of telltale indicators for this method of attack. For example, one such indicator might be the discovery of possible terrorists pursuing flight training to fly large jet aircraft, or seeking to buy advanced flight simulators.
3. The CTC did not propose, and the intelligence community collection management process did not set, requirements to monitor such telltale indicators.Therefore the warning system was not looking for information such as the July 2001 FBI report of potential terrorist interest in various kinds of aircraft training in Arizona, or the August 2001 arrest of Zacarias Moussaoui because of his suspicious behavior in a Minnesota flight school. In late August, the Moussaoui arrest was briefed to the DCI and other top CIA officials under the heading “Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly.”24 Because the system was not tuned to comprehend the potential significance of this information,the news had no effect on warning.
4. Neither the intelligence community nor aviation security experts analyzed systemic defenses within an aircraft or against terrorist-controlled aircraft, suicidal or otherwise. The many threat reports mentioning aircraft were passed to the FAA.While that agency continued to react to specific, credible threats, it did not try to perform the broader warning functions we describe here. No one in the government was taking on that role for domestic vulnerabilities.
Richard Clarke told us that he was concerned about the danger posed by aircraft in the context of protecting the Atlanta Olympics of 1996,theWhite House complex,and the 2001 G-8 summit in Genoa. But he attributed his awareness more to Tom Clancy novels than to warnings from the intelligence community. He did not, or could not, press the government to work on the systemic issues of how to strengthen the layered security defenses to protect aircraft against hijackings or put the adequacy of air defenses against suicide hijack ers on the national policy agenda.
The methods for detecting and then warning of surprise attack that the U.S. government had so painstakingly developed in the decades after Pearl Harbor did not fail; instead, they were not really tried.They were not employed to analyze the enemy that, as the twentieth century closed, was most likely to launch a surprise attack directly against the United States.
Yes, and remember all those testifying about their attempts - to bring warnings that were ignored?
[ In Reply To ..]It seems normal to find out that the most outstanding talent of too many people of the people who rise to high positions is self-aggrandizement. They can get themselves there, but then what? The classic rising to the level of incompetence. Except if you gather and hold onto enough power you can continue your climb well beyond that and stay.
Here's what I want to know... - ZvilleMT
[ In Reply To ..]How did the FBI gain access to Petraeus's personal emails? Either they would have had to had proof of some security breach to take to a judge to get a warrant OR write their own warrant (via Patriot Act) by somehow connecting him to terrorist activities. I somehow doubt they did either one of these, so how exactly did they get a hold of these emails?
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