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Raising minimum wage to $15 an hour?

Posted: Dec 8, 2016

Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton wanted the minimum wage raised and that was part of their platform.

Does anyone think raising the minimum wage will help the economy? My soon to be ex-company, Nuance, fired the California MTs because of minimum wage higher than average in California.

Will other companies avoid high minimum wage requirements and avoid doing business in those states?

Do you think if the minimum wage is higher, costs to the consumers will be higher. If a business wants to make money, won't the costs be passed on to those who shop there. If McDonald's needs to pay a worker $15 an hour, how much will the price of food go up?

Would you resent having an unskilled worker making $15 an hour? Will educated workers get pay increases too?

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You will see more things become automated. It's already - happening. Amazon is trying out

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a store in, what for it, Seattle, WA ($15 minimum wage), a store with no clerks.

$15 an hour is a lot better than $7 an hour - sm

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Keeping our wages down is doing nothing for keeping down the cost of housing, groceries, electricity, etc.

Everything is going up except our wages.

Yes, automation is happening. Truckers will soon be out of a job with autopilot trucks. Hopefully Trump, who lives in a gold gilded penthouse, will give his billions out to all the poor people who become homeless.

Automation is coming but so are jobs leaving - so we need to stop that

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That is Trump's goal to keep jobs in America and not shipped to Mexico (or India).

Why would he give his money to the homeless? Crooked politicians created legislation to enable jobs to be shipped offshore. Trump had nothing to do with the mess created by the political system.

Yet he followed the rest of them - overseas

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He gave his money to the homeless so he could have tax write-offs. Maybe he didn't create the mess but he took advantage of it and will continue to.

I hope he gets rid of regulation that causes - businesses to leave or close.

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That's how jobs are created. And if you don't like the job you have, a person can start a business or go somewhere else. That's what used to happen, before we became socialist.

65 million of us are still rugged individualists.

Soros could give his money away too, Clinton Foundation, - and Hollywood. How about Zuckerberg?

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Mark Cuban maybe?

How about that Mexican billionaire who made his money from producing Obama phones?

At $15 you get to pay more in taxes and perhaps get off - subsidies, but you risk being

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demoted to part time or having your job automated.

Perhaps when President Trump establishes a friendly - environment to start a business again,

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with drive and determination you can start you own business, get rich and give all your own money away.

You will see more self serve kiosks. McDonald's is going that route, - Wendy's is too. Many of these

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"supporters" are union members with contracts indexed to the minimum wage.

Minimum wage jobs are supposed to be transitory, not permanent. We were shown in the 80s and 90s the result in manufacturing when wage demands get out of control. Who would have thought the same mechanization could hit the service sector? Liberals managed to even do that.

Something the left never seems to be able to grasp is the law of “unintended consequences.

A big piece of the puzzle is that businesses can't just - raise price to compensate for

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increased costs.

Theoretically, liberals think McD and others can pay all their hired help $30,000 a year or more. But the liberals don’t think it through; that a Big Mac meal would go up in price to compensate. How many people are willing to pay $20 for a Big Mac meal???

Economic models show that as prices for goods and services rise, that demand will fall off. But if McD loses sales because of higher prices, where will the money come from to pay the $15 or more per hour wages???

Don't worry about that, they are already - eliminating jobs with automation

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You can't pay decent wages to your employees because you might have to give up some of you several million dollar salary and bonuses and might not be able to buy another mansion or yacht with solid gold fixtures. Those darn employees, who do they think they are wanting to be able to put food on their table? Some people have to work 2 and 3 minimal wage jobs to do that so now the big fat CEOs are going to make sure there are even no minimum wage jobs. Let them eat cake!!!!

If you believe a min. wage won't help you, - youre shooting yourself in the foot.

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SMH.....

Raised minimum wage did not help California - Nuance MTs.

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And if the minimum wage is raised it will raise the price of goods and services so your minimum wage raise will not buy you as much as you expect. Get an education and get out of a minimum wage job.

It wasn't the min. wage. Jobs were already - leaving Cali because we have -

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stricter worker protection laws re: overtime, etc.

Also, if it were not up to each state, but the FEDERAL min. wage, then there would be less temptation for discrimination against workers based on where they live.

Why are managers from California still working at N? - nm

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It surprises me that any are, but then again, - those folks have a different deal

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than we wheel-cranking gerbils do. Judging by how many have mysteriously "disappeared" from N and MM, I say just give it time, and they'll all be given the boot or asked to relocate.

Also, if they're paid on salary and not hourly, then overtime (one of the sticking points with Cali) isn't an issue, because they don't get overtime.

Isn't there a new law going into effect where salaried - people get OT also?

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I think it is for all employees across the board regardless of state. Maybe I'm wrong. I sort of remember hearing something about this??

Managers are not usually paid by the hour. - N managers are salaried.

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Thanks to pay grid most MTs are barely making minimum wage and if they do not, Nuance does not want to subsidize California's minimum wage workers.

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