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Obama backs high-end health tax plan


Posted: Jan 8, 2010

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama signaled to House Democratic leaders Wednesday that they'll have to drop their opposition to taxing high-end health insurance plans to pay for health coverage for millions of uninsured Americans.

In a meeting at the White House, Obama expressed his preference for the insurance tax contained in the Senate's health overhaul bill, but largely opposed by House Democrats and organized labor, Democratic aides said. The aides spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting was private.

House Democrats want to raise income taxes on high-income individuals instead and are reluctant to abandon that approach, while recognizing that they will likely have to bend on that and other issues so that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., can maintain his fragile 60-vote majority support for the bill.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and four committee chairmen met with the president Wednesday as they scrambled to resolve differences between sweeping bills passed by the House and Senate. The aim is to finalize legislation revamping the nation's health care system in time for Obama's State of the Union address early next month.

Despite the dispute over the payment approach, Pelosi, D-Calif., emerged from the meeting expressing optimism.

"We've had a very intense couple of days," Pelosi said. "After our leadership meeting this morning, our staff engaged with the Senate and the administration staff to review the legislation, suggest legislative language. I think we're very close to reconciliation."

Congressional staff members stayed at the White House into the evening to continue work, and a conference call of the full House Democratic caucus was scheduled for Thursday. Obama is taking a more direct role than ever, convening Oval Office meetings Tuesday and Wednesday of House Democratic leaders.

The House and Senate bills are alike in many ways. Both impose first-time requirements for almost all Americans to purchase health insurance, providing subsidies for lower- and middle-income people to help them do so, though the subsidies in the House bill are more generous. Both establish new marketplaces called exchanges where people can go to shop for and compare health insurance plans. Both would ban unpopular insurance company practices including denying coverage to people with pre-existing health conditions.

Differences include whom to tax, how many people to cover, how to restrict taxpayer funding for abortion and whether illegal immigrants should be allowed to buy coverage in the new markets with their own money. The House bill covers about 36 million uninsured Americans over 10 years, costing more than $1 trillion, while the cheaper Senate bill covers about 31 million.

House Democrats are steeling themselves to abandon establishment of a new government insurance plan opposed by moderates in the Senate, but in return hope to get the Senate to rescind insurers' antitrust exemption, make subsidies more affordable and agree to establishment of national rather than state health insurance exchanges, among other things. Obama has signaled his support for the House position on the subsidies and other areas, aides said.

The difference in how the bills are paid for is emerging as among the toughest disputes.

The House wants to increase income taxes on individuals making more than $500,000 and couples over $1 million, which would raise $460 billion over 10 years to pay for the bill. The Senate wants to tax insurance companies on plans valued at over $8,500 for individuals and $23,000 for couples, raising $150 billion. Most analysts say the insurance tax would be passed on to consumers, and organized labor is strongly opposed, as are House Democrats, some of whom contend that the tax would violate Obama's campaign pledge not to tax the middle class.

"We did in our house bill something that protects middle class Americans from having to pay more for health insurance," Rep. Xavier Becerra, D-Calif., a member of the House leadership, said Wednesday. "So far we want to stay to that principle."

House members "have been very clear on that issue and working with the president to stick to what he said when he was campaigning for president, we're trying to make sure this does not affect middle class Americans," Becerra said.

Obama has defended the tax as a way to drive down health costs.

"I'm on record as saying that taxing Cadillac plans that don't make people healthier but just take more money out of their pockets because they're paying more for insurance than they need to, that's actually a good idea, and that helps bend the cost curve," the president said in an interview with National Public Radio just before Christmas. "That helps to reduce the cost of health care over the long term. I think that's a smart thing to do."

In the end the House likely will have to accept the insurance plan tax at some level — say starting with plans valued at $25,000 or more, with carve-outs for certain union professions — but it might not happen without a fight.

A provision in the Senate bill to increase the Medicare payroll tax on high-earners could provide some middle ground, although that measure would raise only $87 billion over a decade.

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I agree with this, but I believe it should be (sm) - Nikki

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limited to the citizens to pay. As it is now, it's an excise tax on insurance companies, which obviously will cause them to raise premiums. However, if the excise tax is 10%, what's to stop the insurance companies from charging 20% to recoup their "loss?"

It should be directly paid by the taxpayers, based on income levels of the insured persons, so it doesn't affect what's remaining of the middle class.

This is based on the worth of the insurance policy and is limited to the highest of plans.

Please see link below:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/health/policy/21insure.html

I guess their "requirement" that I buy insurance -- - SM

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Trumps my requirement to :

BUY FOOD

LIVE INDOORS

HEAT MY HOME

PUT GAS IN MY CAR

BUY MY SCHOOL TEXTBOOKS

TITHE TO MY CHURCH

CLOTHE MY CHILDREN

and

PAY FOR INTERNET SO I CAN KEEP MY JOB


I don't know about anyone else, but if this monstrosity passes, I will personally go to Washington and help kick out any of these Demo-Fat-Crats who voted for it.

Obama said he wouldn't raise taxes?

Is he ignorant or just a liar? (Or both?) Doesn't he think we know what's going on?

DC - Vikefan

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Arrogance. How many senators and congressmen/women from any party do you think are left in in DC that actually still care about their people?

All I've got to say is I had better start seeing my party shape up, stop acting like moderates and go back to republican principles that most seem to have abandoned. I can't think of anyone right now I'd cast my vote for. Honestly, we should all go to the polls in 2010 and cast our votes for Mickey Mouse. As the campaigning starts and election draws closer, I am going to pay darned close attention to what they say, how they act, I am going to research them, etc.

DC needs a huge enema, folks.

Interesting. (sm) - Nikki

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You believe that Republicans are too moderate. Many progressives/liberals believe that Democrats are too moderate.


If this results in electing MORE liberal Democrats and MORE extremely right-wing Republicans, then we ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to partisanship and fights in Congress.


What we need is nonpartisanship to make this country work.


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