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For those who are against ANY nationally-based health care plan

Posted: Nov 12, 2009

I'm curious what your stand is, then, for those who cannot afford health care due to lack of insurance?

Do you feel that health care is a priviledge reserved only for those who can afford it?
Do you feel that "there will be poor, always, pathetically suffering" (Jesus Christ Superstar) and that it is not required that others concern themselves with it?
Do you feel that private charities should take over this aspect of poor people's lives?
Do you feel that those who are poor are poor because they choose NOT to do those things which would lift them from poverty and therefore do not deserve the benefits of wealth?
Do you feel that children (of the poor) should receive health care from the government but NOT adults?
Do you feel that the government will botch it up so badly that NO health care is better than GOVERNMENT healthcare?

Most of you know that I am a conservative repub and yet feel that there should be health care insurance available to everyone.

I'm not trying to crucify any one, here. I truly wonder what the thinking is.

Please answer all the questions (above) one by one in your replies.

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My answers - jm

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In my response whenever I say the word "you", I do not mean you specifically, just using you to address my sentences to all those who fit in the "you" category. I myself am an independent. I didn't vote for either side (maybe when we get someone decent to vote for that will change, but right now I don't like either side).

1. No it's not a privilege. Like everything else it is a service that people need to pay for. If you don't use the service then you don't pay for it. And like any other service I use I donâ��t expect other people to pay for me. It is unconstitutional to force people to pay for something they don't use or want.

Think of it this way. I NEED a roof over my head, therefore I have housing. I can choose to live in any type of housing depending on what I want to pay for it. Everyone needs housing right? So should everyone be responsible to pay for every elseâ��s housing too? Of course not. And, if I don't have a job or money, they I will live in a homeless shelter.

There needs to be services for people who cannot afford health care. Services offered by physician's who volunteer their time to help the less fortunate. Donations, etc. (i.i. VOLUNTARY services paid for with voluntary service/donations). Maybe the government can forgive part of their medical school loans if doctors were to volunteer at centers.

2. Yes there will always be "poor pathetically suffering" individuals. But I cannot afford to take care of everyone. I can barely afford to take care of myself. If you take any more from me (all while trying to put some kind of guilt trip on everyone - Lord knows I have enough guilt in the other aspects of my life, I don't need it in some phony excuse) then I will be one of the poor and pathetically suffering individuals that needs to be taken care of. And that is exactly what the government is trying to do to all Americans. Make everyone equal, make everyone poor. If you make a little bit more than your neighbor are you supposed to take that and give half of what you made extra to him. He didn't do anything to deserve it, but after all it's in the best interest, right? You and he are suppose to have the exact same thing. After all, you already ate breakfast, so you can skip lunch. Everyone is concerned about the less fortunate, but to sit and try to make us all feel guilty about it is just wrong.

3. I feel charities are there to help the less fortunate. Depending on what charities you are talking about. Some feed the homeless, some shelter the homeless. Thatâ��s what charities are for.

4. I feel there are different aspects to why people are poor. Some not by choice (they were doing well in their job, had a home, etc), however our "wonderful (NOT)" government made bad decisions that put these people out of jobs which led to them losing their homes, etc. Other people (and I know quite a few) choose not to work. They come into the local pizza place and brag about how well they are doing and how she is going to have another baby and now will get more money from the government. They brag about how they are living better than a lot of people who are working, don't have to pay the taxes, get food stamps, and government subsidies, etc), so it would be "stoopid" for them to go get a job (p.s. - her name is Lisa and she comes into my local pizza place telling us all about her wonderful life, the big screen TV and X-bot she just bought, and how her sister is going to babysit when the spring comes so she can go on a cruise).

So for you to sit there and tell me (or try to make me feel guilty) that I am supposed to work more hours so I can give that money to people like that (spread the wealth is what your getting to). Even if people are poor by no fault of their own, that is no reason why people who work hard should work more and give their money to them, unless that is their choice (that is called charity). I'm tired of being told I'm not compassionate and I don't care about people who have less than I do because I don't want to work more than 56 hours a week. I work my @ss off to support my unemployed husband, send a little extra to my father, sister, and brother in law who are all out of work. I buy extra food when I can for our local food shelter and at Thanksgiving I send money to a two Indian Reservations to help feed the poor with them. So now I'm suppose to feel guilty that I'm not doing enough. Any more guilt and I'm going to pop. But really, how much more are we supposed to give. And at the same time I don't expect my neighbor to work more to give to me, unless he wants to do it out of the goodness of his heart. Spreading the wealth is not the answer. The government is supposed to encourage and help business so that people will have jobs, not take it away and give it to others.

Show me where in the constitution it states that the working Americans are supposed to work to give it to those who don't have anything so that we will all be equal.

Where in the constitution does it say everyone is "deserving of wealth" when they are not doing anything to get it themselves. There is no such thing of "deserving the benefits of wealth" if you don't do anything to get there. My wealth is depending on how hard I work to get it. Not how hard everyone else works to give it to me while I do nothing. There are people out there who are poor by no fault of their own. That is why we have charities. They need some assistance to help them. The government needs to stop spending. I read something a week or so ago that said...

"A conservative believes that the best charity is a boost to someone who eventually won't need that help, but that out of gratefulness, will render the same help to someone in his former position. A conservative doesn't see charity as a life-long dependency on government agencies, or a new program from a politician who is investing in his perpetual incumbency â�� he instead calls this a condition of bondage.â��

Where in the constitution does it say that everyone in America is supposed to be equal. Those who work harder to earn more to make a living and a future for themselves, their family and children are supposed to keep doing what they are doing but hand it over to those who don't work (some who don't want to work).

5. (I think - lost count). Children of the poor/parents of the children of the poor should be able to receive some health care (which they do). They go to the hospital ER's and are not turned down. There are health care facilities throughout the United States who offer services to the poor, free mammo's etc. To say they are not receiving any health care is incorrect. Also again I believe there should be health care workers who volunteer their time to help the sick.

6. Yes I do feel the government will botch it up and VERY badly. But since we do have some form of health care and people are able to get care, your statement is incorrect to a certain point. You are stating it as though nobody has health care. You are ignoring the fact that there are people without insurance receiving health care and 85% of the country who are happy with their health care.

I think the government will botch it up so bad, and that is why government MUST go back to the drawing board to come up with a plan that is good for America. Not one so bad they refuse to join. Let us join the same plan congress is in. After all that was one of Obama's campaign promises. You will have the same type of health care I have. Okay...let us join your plan then.

I am an independent. I feel bad for the poor and people who are in bad situations, but I can't take care of everyone. Your asking us to take care of others when we can't even take care of ourselves.

Ummm....(sm) - Just the big bad

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You (we all) are already taking care of others. However, because these people don't get maintenance healthcare, they often have no other option but to show up in the ER when the situation is dire. The bottom line is that when they do that it costs us more than if they had healthcare. And yes, there are some state run health programs, but who do you think pays for those? How are we paying for this? Rising healthcare costs. What makes more sense? Continually paying those rising costs or providing a system where not only would those costs be cut by preventative medicine, but also by ensuring that those people take responsibility of their own healthcare?

So then.... - jm

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Are you going to "force" people to get maintenance health care. How are you going to enforce it to ensure these people get their "maintenance" health care. It's not always financially motivated. There are a lot of people who will not go to the doctor.

I'm sorry...it is wrong and unconstitutional to force someone to buy a service they do not want. And it is unconstitutional and wrong to force other people to pay for others. If I want that I'll go to Venezuela or Cuba. I do not want that. You also seem to think that every since person will be going to the ER. There are a lot of perfectly healthy people who do not go to the ER and it is wrong to force everyone to pay for a service we don't use.

Yes PEOPLE do need to take care of their own health care. Not GOVERNMENT. Fix the parts that are broken. Provide a service for the people who don't have health care and want it. Leave the people alone who don't want to buy it because they are healthy. Even a judge came out and said that. Stop the government spending of needless programs and put the money toward health care for those who need it and leave those who are happy with their health care or don't want to purchase health care alone. When you start intruding on people's lives when is it going to stop. Let people decide how they want to run their lives.

oops...meant every single person - not every since person

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So, let's assume for argument's sake...(sm) - Just the big bad

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that you have no insurance. You don't want to buy insurance because you are healthy (for now). So, what happens if you are in an accident and need medical attention? Do you expect to be taken into the hospital because they HAVE to treat you regardless of your insurance status, or should they just leave you there on the road because you don't think you need insurance?

You say to *fix* the parts of healthcare that are broken and to provide healthcare for those who want it, and yet you want no govt interference. So, without public funds, exactly who is going to pay to *fix* anything?

The whole point of a civilization is to work towards a common goal, that being the survival of that civilization -- that would mean everyone in that civilization -- not just the ones with the money.

Fine, maybe we should all send you and those - jm

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of you who want the government to run every aspect of your life a bill for our housing, clothing, and food. At least those are all things that we do need to stay alive. Not everyone wants to pay for a service they don't use or pay for a service so other people can use it. It is not right, it is not fair, and

IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Have you even read the constitution? It doesn't sound like it. It was written for a purpose and it needs to be followed.

So where should I send my bill?

The question that you did not answer was...(sm) - Just the big bad

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Would you expect to receive care even if you did not have insurance?

I'm guessing by your response that you actually would expect to receive care. In that case, guess what....everyone else would be paying for YOUR medical care, and yet you wouldn't want to put a dime into the pot for anyone else. I guess it's only unconstitutional when it comes out of YOUR pocket.

I would pay for my coverage IF I needed it - jm

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Just like I did the last time. Nobody else paid for MY health care. That's right it came out of MY pocket. Nobody else's MINE! I paid for MY health care (surgery, etc), and I didn't whine about it either. But what you are failing to remember is that not every single person in America is going to end up in the emergency room. I should not have to pay for something I am not going to use, and IF (that is a BIG IF) I ever do need the emergency room, hospital, or whatever service I have I will pay for it. I will pay for it and I don't expect other people to pay for me.

Health care is a service. Some people use it, others don't. You don't make someone pay for something they are not using. It's unconstitutional. Yeah, sorry I keep referring to that document that was written to protect the people from this kind of tyranny, but you know, it is an important document, at least to me and lots of other people.

People can get coverage and there are other alternatives on how a person can pay. If people were not so dead set on having the government run their lives and stop trying to socialize the country so that everyone is equal no matter how hard they work.

The last time I had surgery I paid for it and nobody else paid for me and that is the way it should be.

It's pretty simple math. Not sure why people can't figure it out.

It's easy to say you can pay for a surgery....(sm) - Just the big bad

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or a single incident or doctor visit, even if you pay $10 a month. However, this is totally dependent on your ability to continue working. What happens if you get hit with some catastrophic disease? It's easy to talk a big game about what you can do when you're healthy.

And yes, I do realize everyone doesn't go to the emergency room. There are other sources for healthcare, the health department, state services, etc....again things that others are already paying for.

May I answer that? - gourdpainter

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When my husband lost his job (and his health insurance) when the company he worked for went bankrupt, guess what happened? He got a kidney stone. It was obvious even to me with the symptoms that he had a kidney stone. It was on a Saturday night and the only alternative was the ER. Yes they treated him. The ER doc was sure felt sure he had a kidney stone. He received only the minimum necessary treatment, without the CT the doc was prepared to send him for until he found we had no insurance. They treated him with morphine and admitted him for observation. Still the bill was astronomical. No one offered us free care and we didn't ask for it. We simply paid the bill. What's wrong with expecting uninsured patients to pay their own bills even if they have to make payments?

I pretty much totally agree with the views of jm!!! I am fed up and sick and tired of people thinking they are "owed" anything. Pretty much one is owed what they work their butt off to get. I don't feel anyone owes me a bloody thing. I do all I can to feed the hungry, care for the sick and help the needy but I don't consider people who don't work (assuming they can find a job these days and if they are unemployed through no fault of their own) "needy," I call them l-a-z-y.

As for the government sponsored health care, which ever bill passes, I would like to see the congress, the president and all other government workers first in line to sign up for exactly the same health care they are going to force everyone else into.

Off my soap box now.

Thank you gourdpainter - jm

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I'm tired of people telling me I should be paying other people's health care when I don't even know them. It's not fair to anyone to make someone pay for something they do not use.

There is only so many hours in a day I can work. When you live paycheck to paycheck and half your family is unemployed and you are helping them out, for someone to tell me I have to give more so people who I don't even know will have the same thing I have worked my butt off for, yeah I get a wee tad irritated. And then when someone tells me I don't have any compassion for others and that I'm supposed to want to work harder so I can give more away, become poorer than I am now just so everyone in this country will feel equal... Well it makes me feel that that old pressure cooker I had when I was growing up. The kind with a little topper and when the steam builds up it starts to swirly around and whistle. And if I hear one more person tell me I'm suppose to want to give more of what I work my butt off to get so that others who have less than because they "deserve the benefits of wealth". Well I do thing my topper is going to pop.

Sorry spreading the wealth is not the American dream. I will always abide by the constitution and fight for what is right.

I don't expect people to pay for services I use and it should not be expected of us to pay for theirs.

And you're right...until congress, the president, and other government workers jump in line first they need to shut their pie holes.

I hear ya - gourdpainter

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I have family members I'm helping too. They have lost jobs through no fault of their own (2 are/were MTs). They are going to school for another career. I am thankful I can afford to help others. I do not want to provide free anything to illegals. Period. If someone is working and doing their best I'm all fine with giving them a hand up. I am not fine with giving anyone a handout.

On top of all that I am being sued for "slander, libel and tort" for posting my OWN EXPEPRIENCE on this very forum. Never mind freedom of speech. The Constitution has been placed in the big shredder.

I'm like you, I feel like ye ole pressure cooker that is furiously emitting steam and hissing violently! ENOUGH ALREADY!!! What has become of the country our forefathers, LEGAL immigrants mostly, fought and died for??? Of course I have Native American ancestors too and look how they were treated. The others were Irish immigrants who worked their behinds off to make a better life. So far as I know I don't have a single ancestor who ever took a handout from the government or anyone else. My dad, for example, only went to the 1st grade. Education was never an option for us kids. He was determined we would have a better life than he had and we did and do. We were taught to work hard to get ahead, something that has been passed down to my children and they are passing it on to their children.

Going to bed now with a rampage headache. LOL

May we add one more factor into your scenario? (sm) - Nikki

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Let's assume the accident you refer to is an auto accident. Some auto insurance policies have clauses that policy owners can choose to cover medical expenses.

If health insurance isn't constitutional, how is mandatory auto insurance constitutional?

Health insurance vs auto insurance - gourdpainter

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Auto insurance may be mandatory but I wonder how come it is that three times I have been involved in accidents where the at fault driver was not insured. Guess who fixed my car all three times??? Correct...it was MY insurance.

I think they started that when they began "no-fault" insurance. (nm) - Nikki

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:-)

Not everyone drives/owns an automobile - sm - jm

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Therefore should everyone have to pay an auto insurance so those who do not want to get auto insurance, they will be covered too. What about people like my MIL who doesn't drive, or my grandparents who are in nursing homes, but they have no vehicle anymore because they don't drive (except their wheelchair), and will most likely never see the inside of a car again. Should they be forced to pay a tax for a service they do not use just so others can be covered?

Maybe I shouldn't speak too loud...am sure that is what I will be hearing next.

How many of these people you mention are (sm) - Nikki

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eligible for that government-run health insurance called Medicare? Mostly everyone who works pays into that, whether they are eligible to receive those benefits or not.

But everyone has a body - nm - NJ

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And everyone has a choice - and there is such a thing - as the constitution - nm

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Just one thing then - if those who

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can afford insurance and choose not to purchase it cannot pay in full at the time service is rendered, they need to be turned away. There should be an assessment of damage and estimate of cost in the case of an accident, etc. and if that cost is higher than that person can pay with credit card, check, whatever means, then they should be refused treatment. There is no reason at all that people should be allowed to take this kind of risk of leaving hospitals and physicians with their debts resulting in driving costs up for rest of us. It's been going on far too long.

you reall do not get it - jm

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Show me in the constitution where it says people should pay for a service they don't use. Please show me.

Follow the constitution.

You really do not get it.

You show me where it says you - are owed services

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you do not pay for.

Are you replying to me? I think this is what I have been saying - jm

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding your statement.

Yes, we are saying the same thing - see message

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Yes, we are saying the same thing.

What I said is that if you can afford insurance, choose not to pay for it, cannot pay (please read the original message again), then you should be denied service.

What is unconstitutional about that?

You and I are saying the same thing, except it appears you don't think it should apply to people who can afford insurance and choose not to purchase it.

I don't want to pay for your healthcare either. If you can't prove that you can pay for service you will need if in an accident, etc. and all those other things that you cannot predict, then your treatment needs to be denied. Far too many uninsured by choice end up costing the rest of us through increased costs.

American citizens have been paying for uninsured by choice far too long.

All I'm saying (and it's extremely American) is that if you are uninsured by choice, and cannot pay upfront for needed services through credit card, check, or otherwise, then you don't get served. You don't get a tab with the hospital or a physician that will result in increased health care costs for the rest of us.

ok, we are on the same wavelength - see message - jm

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What you say is not a problem with me. I agree with you.

Now, the problem is how can we - accomplish this?

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I suspect it will never happen. Accident victims would have to be allowed to suffer and die without treatment. Do you think we in this society would ever allow that?

If things stay the way they are now, we will continue to pay for those who think they don't need insurance until it's too late.

There is a good reason why people don't have insurance - gourdpainter

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I doubt there are very many people who could afford health insurance without chosing between food and housing in order to pay for it, would choose to be without health insurance. Healthy or not we have become a people who run to the doctor with every snotty nose and other minor ailments that could just as well be treated without medical care.

yes, affordable health care insurance for - all

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is an excellent idea, wouldn't you say?

Exactly...what is so hard about that. - jm

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If I could pay the same amount of money for the same exact coverage that someone in the mid west pays I would save anywhere from 250 to 350 dollars a month. Do you know what I could do with $250? Lots! Let people buy the same insurance policy that other states give their people. I even saw an insurance plan for $75.00 a month somewhere in the mid west. If more insurance companies lower their rates more people could afford it

Would everyone - buy it?

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We would still be in the same boat. For some, any amount is too much for something they "think" they don't need.

Do you personally know - gourdpainter

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anyone who doesn't "think" they need health insurance? I don't. Not a one. I do know at least a dozen people who live in constant fear that something will happen that will require medical care. They say they would just have to die although they have worked hard all their lives. In the meantime they don't get care because they can't afford it. Not even one of them is in favor of this proposed health care bill. They do not think it will benefit them or any other hard-working AMERICAN citizen.

Haven't you been reading jm's - posts?

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he/she is in this category; and yes, I do personally know people who think they don't need health care insurance.

well then, - gourdpainter

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they aren't particular bright are they? Intelligent people know they are only one major illness away from financial ruin.

I couldn't agree more - with you on that

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Absolutely no argument on that point at all. There are many many people who think they don't need health care insurance and can afford it very well. I believe they are highly irresponsible not only to themselves, but everyone else.

Why shouldn't insurance companies be allowed to charge whatever they can get away with? - tc

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Don't you believe in the free market?

Yes they should be - see message - jm

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They should be allowed to charge anything they want, and in the same breath we should be able to buy an insurance policy at the same rate anyone in another state pays (I love Iowa and a couple other states rates). When higher cost insurance companies start losing business because instead of paying over $500 a month for a policy people will go to another company and spend $180 for the same level of care, then they will start to lose business and will either have no choice but to lower their rates or go out of business.

This is a good idea - except

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Health care insurance is based on statistics. Geographically these statistics vary greatly. For example: When New Yorkers buy a policy in Arizona, then Arizona is going to have to raise prices since New Yorkers are statistically more expensive than Arizonians. If they don't raise prices right away, they will offer policies with inadequate coverage. Pretty soon there will be only policies with inadequate coverage and policies with adequate coverage that are not affordable. There are many other pitfalls to this idea also which you can find with some research.

And we still have the problem of those who think they don't need coverage and would rather take a chance than pay for any at all even when they can afford it.

That doesn't make sense - huh????

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People are not more expensive than other people. I don't consider my body any more or less expensive than yours.

too bad it's not up to - you

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You can find all the info on line if you're interested.

Yes, indeed - gourdpainter

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"Affordable" being the key word. I doubt that is going to happen. I fully expect the premiums to go up and seems they are already saying that "may" happen.

true, I second that totally...nm - tr

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forced to buy - lunarmod

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I dont want my tax money used to start unnecessary wars. I dont want my tax money being spent on pork like the repub in Alaska and his bridge to nowhere. Unfortunately, I (and you) do not get to pick and chose where our tax money goes. Health ins costs are draining us dry, so if you have no desire to help the sick, take comfort in the financial perks of increasing efficiency of the health system thus saving money

So then stop the uneccessary war P.O. is continuing - and use that money towards health care

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Why aren't you screaming and shouting about that. You screamed and shout when Bush was in an "unnecessary" war, but you're not screaming and shouting while the O keeps the "unnecessary" war going.

News flash for you - our tax money is not going for a bridge to nowhere. First the whole country does not live in Alaska, you are picking out a specific thing to show the hatred towards Palin, but guess what...she is not the President and the bridge to nowhere does not affect the whole country.

And money being spent on pork? Lets talk about H. Reid, B. Franks, C. Dodd, and the other democrats too. There is pork on both sides. Just more with the democrats. Well maybe not more, but they blatantly shove it in our faces - as in - "Yeah, I've got pork in my democratic bill, so what, what are you going to do about it" attitude.

So why don't you start talking about ending this "unnecessary" war your lord keeps perpetuating and sending money towards. Stop the unnecessary spending and put that money towards health care and creating jobs. Instead of blaming people who are not even in congress or anywhere close to it. But no, you don't like that. Yeah, I see what your side your on. I'll stay far away from that thank you.

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Oct 15, 2009
In response to Keith O's idea of conducting free health care clinics in the states of dem legislators who are reluctant to support health care reform, progressives have donated $600,000 so far. The clinics are being scheduled. Dr. Oz is one of the many health care volunteers. Progressives put their money where their mouths are. ...

Oct 18, 2009
Got this email today: Hey there,I just heard a story that you need to hear too: A few years ago, Melanie Shouse was living the American dream when she transformed an old Dominos storefront into an expansion of her home business. But just as the store was opening, Melanie was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer and given months to live.Melanie had insurance, and she went straight to the experts at Siteman Cancer Center in St. Louis. Working with the world-renowned doctors there, she� ...

Nov 20, 2009
BREAKING: Full List of Tax HikesIn Senate Democrat Health Bill From Ryan Ellis on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:46 PM Read the full bill Read the tax revenue score from the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) Read the budget and tax score from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) PDF of this Document Individual Mandate Tax (Page 324/Sec. 1501/$8 bil): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance must pay an income surtax according to the following ...

Nov 24, 2009
A dear friend of mine shared a prayer she wrote for health care and was kind enough to give me permission to share it here with all of you. She makes some very poignant points that I feel should be shared. Here goes: Prayer for Health Care Lord, we know that you must be aggrieved at the thought of so many people in the world who suffer from denial of access to the healing arts. As a Healer Yourself, You showed unconditional compassion to so many of us humans who desperately n ...

Dec 03, 2009
Perhaps they should link it directly to Social Security. make the plan optional, but if you decided against participation in the reform plan, you are automatically dropped from future Social Security payments. If you are so dead certain that health care reform is socialism, you can make your stand by not taking social security. ...

Mar 20, 2010
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Mar 29, 2010
Senior Health Care Solution So you're a senior citizen and the government says no health care for you, what do you do? Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. You are allowed to shoot 2 senators and 2 representatives. Of Course, this means you will be sent to prison where you will get 3 meals a day, a roof over your head, and all the health care you need! New teeth, no problem. Need glasses, great. New hip, knees, kidney, ...

Mar 29, 2010
By FRANK RICH Published: March 27, 2010 THERE were times when last Sunday’s great G.O.P. health care implosion threatened to bring the thrill back to reality television. On ABC’s “This Week,” a frothing and filibustering Karl Rove all but lost it in a debate with the Obama strategist David Plouffe. A few hours later, the perennially copper-faced Republican leader John Boehner revved up his “Hell no, you can’t!” incantation in the House chamber — ...

Apr 30, 2014
If our elected "representatives" (you know who you are) had cooperated instead of fighting tooth and nail against, the ACA could have been more to your liking. Our beloved president did the best he could against the irrational opposition. It is a beginning. Praise the bama. ...

May 01, 2014
This is the biggest spike in health care spending since 1980 and not just reported by "Faux" News (hate to disappoint y'all)... Take your pick of links: http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/043014-698989-gdp-01-gain-health-care-spending-jumps-on-obamacare.htm http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20140430/NEWS/304309965/reform-update-new-economic-data-suggest-spike-in-health-spending http://www.californiahealthline.org/articles/2014/5/1/health-care-spending-up-by-99-reach ...

Mar 17, 2017
I am now paying 3 times the amount I was paying for insurance premiums only 3 months ago. I'm making 1/3 of what I made 15 years ago. I am literally working for minimum wage. Something has to change or I'm joining the millions of people, including illegal immigrants and people who refuse to work, to get my free insurance, too (which I'm now paying for). ...

Jun 23, 2017
I know Obamacare needs some fixes--at least it was a step in the right direction. I am still doing reports where people are in the acute care hospital setting because they did not take their maintenance medications for hypertension and diabetes, etc. I do not know why they let their Medicaid lapse, but they are in crisis. How much does a prescription for BP meds cost versus the hospital stay + rehab for stoke patients? How much does insulin and blood testing cost versus blindness, ampu ...

Oct 15, 2009
By Ken Kupchik Stupid things are always said in politics, whether it's to curry favor with ill-informed constituents, or because a politician is a missing filter between his brain and mouth. Based on the level of discourse during the recent health care debate, it appears that the far right possessed the lion's share of stupid comments. Here is the cream of the crap: 10) Sarah Palin temporarily came out of book-writing reclusion to claim that a health-care overhaul would create "dea ...

Nov 05, 2009
Common Sense Health Care our Nation can afford. - This makes sense to me. The American people have spoken. They oppose government-run health care. Republicans are on the side of the American people. What Americans want are common-sense, responsible solutions that address the rising cost of health care and other major problems. In the national Republican address on Saturday, October 31, 2009, House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) discussed Republicans’ plan for common- ...

Nov 23, 2009
Support for health care bill falls to new low http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform And say what you want about Sen. Joe Liberman, but he is earning my respect. Ms. Lincoln even stated she was "shocked by the “unbelievable type of threats” she had received.". As I was thinking this morning I wonder how many will be threatned if they don't vote for it. ...

Dec 23, 2009
Despite all the hubbub about health care, the United States can have affordable health care tomorrow if we want it. There have been real solutions available, solutions that have been right under our noses for decased,but you don't often hear about them and the prospects of getting them are rather grim unless the public is apprised of them. Today's debates and town hall meetings have not been about reducting the overall cost of health care, but about who's going to pay for it. See ...

Dec 13, 2010
This is good news. Now if politicians could just make health care affordable for all. I'd love the same rates as someone in Idaho or other states have. Make health insurance competitive, they have to accept pre-existing conditions and nobody could ever be refused health care and I think that would be a great way for a new year. But forcing people to buy a product they don't want is just not right and I'm glad this judge saw how unconstitutional it is. &nbs ...