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Obama's $4M Taxpayer-Funded Hawaii Vacation
Posted: Nov 29, 2012
Note the "TAXPAYER-funded" vacation. All presidents take vacations, but none this extravagant during such a poor economic time. I guess it's okay, because after all, he "cares" about us. And at least he's "trying." http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/11/29/obama-slated-hawaii-cliff/;
Are you sure? - RC
[ In Reply To ..]"The White House has not officially announced the vacation, and it is unclear if the travel plans are finalized or if the Obamas will be in Hawaii for the entire three-week window covered by the restrictions."
Yep - -
[ In Reply To ..]"According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6.
"The Hawaii Reporter estimates that the total cost of the vacation to Hawaii and federal taxpayers, including funding for travel, staff and protection, is at least $4 million. Obama’s vacations are more expensive than those of previous presidents because of the huge costs to fly Air Force One and an accompanying cargo plane for nine hours or so to Hawaii."
Here is another link to pretty much the same story... - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Must be nice!
It took forever for me access the Hawaiian Reporter - RC
[ In Reply To ..]But when I did, I found this:
TRAVEL: $3,629,622
The biggest expense is President Barack Obama’s round trip flight to Hawaii via Air Force One.
A Congressional Research Service report released in May 2012 said the plane typically used by the President, a Boeing 747, costs $179,750 per hour to operate. The U.S. Air Force has listed the cost of travel as high as $181,757 per flight hour.
Travel time for Air Force One direct from Washington D.C. to Hawaii is about 9 hours or as high as $1,635,813 each way for a total of $3,271,622 for the round trip to Hawaii and back.
Can you BELIEVE the cost of running Air Force One? Nearly all of the estimated $4 million is just for the flight.
Yeah, especially if they "need" two - kr
[ In Reply To ..]One for him, one for her, as is their history.
If they use two, they need to use two. Hey, why not research - this and let us all know if it's so and why?
[ In Reply To ..]Contribute some interesting info.
Google "michelle obama separate plane" - -
[ In Reply To ..]Your request reminds me of my library students asking me to find the info they need instead of doing the work themselves. But, oh, well, I'll humor you:
http://lonelyconservative.com/2011/08/michelle-obama-took-separate-jet-to-marthas-vineyard-to-squeeze-in-a-few-extra-hours-of-vacation-time/
http://jonathanturley.org/2011/08/19/obamas-take-separate-planes-so-first-lady-can-get-a-few-more-hours-of-vacation-in-marthas-vineyard/
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/08/19/michelles-separate-travel-costs-taxpayers-thousands/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027541/Obama-golfs-Marthas-Vineyard-increasing-personal-debt-ceiling.html
You're a librarian telling people to just "google?" - How about a librarian-quality list of sources
[ In Reply To ..]for your implication that their history is of two planes?
As for my suggestion, it was that you provide good information instead of potentially scurrilous innuendo. You know, your "2. As is their history?"
Now that I know you work in a library I realize you understand quite clearly both the ethical difference and the suggestion your wording gives that their "history" is of potentially dozens of 2-plane vacations. Thus, you should be able to post ethical and reliable sources, preferably primary of course, to back up your implication of a pattern of behavior.
I'd also be interested in knowing details of Mrs. Obama's reason for leaving on a separate plane that one time. Just "looking bad" and providing something for their enemies to turn into a rock to throw doesn't seem worthy of a librarian. You must know more, of course.
Another lecture - disguised as a "suggestion"
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The article I read regarding Hawai vacation - specifically states 2 planes
[ In Reply To ..]Why must people be so rude to the posters. Non Pres Obama supporters are allowed to share info here also.
Seriously, now. What's with the lecture? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Poster had some interesting info already. If you want to find out more, you can easily find it. I get the feeling you wouldn't be happy with anything she provided anyway.
"Poster" posted innuendo. Not information. - nm
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I remember that! - Michelle just couldn't wait a few hours.
[ In Reply To ..]No surprise that posters here are unaware of this piece of news. The MSM wasn't about to shed any light on it and sully the Obama reputation.
All networks commented. None knew her commitments but - thought it "looked bad" during a recessi
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Aside from transportation costs the president pays...sm - VTMT
[ In Reply To ..]for all personal expenses, lodging, food, entertainment.
To VTMT - me
[ In Reply To ..]You think that is going to be much $$$ for him? He was raised in Hawaii and they will cater to him...the transportation is what is costly.
I expect Obama is not one to accept freebies and - VTMT
[ In Reply To ..]will pay his own way as is required by law.
REQUIRED BY LAW? - me
[ In Reply To ..]R U kidding me? This guy has broken every law while in office to accommodate his own personal agenda. Your comment is laughable.
And libel is actionable. I just wish false-witnessers here weren't - way too little to bother with. nm
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to save face, please cite laws (nm) - I know you will
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Hmmm - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Being able to afford a vacation like this makes Obama look like one of the rich members of the population that is so vehemently detested on this board - hopefully his pockets will be taxed appropriately.
Um, he's President of the United States? - So...yeah.
[ In Reply To ..]I suppose he makes a little more money than us.
It doesn't make him look at all like someone who can - buy a Senator with his pocket change.
[ In Reply To ..]He's only a President, temporarily powerful and replaced before long. We're talking about people here who invite ex-presidents to dinner as entertainment for their other guests.
To say we've let them get way too powerful for our own good and the good of our republic is to grossly understate the matter.
Um - so... yeah - anon
[ In Reply To ..]No question he makes a good salary - just wondering if he is considered one of those greedy rich folks who according to many on this board make too much money and should be giving it to the masses.
I'm sure he pays his fair share - unlike *some*
[ In Reply To ..]who pay capital gains rates with a whopping 15% tax rate on hundreds of millions of dollars.
Well since you're sure he pays his fair share that is good enough for me - anon
[ In Reply To ..]NM
Yeah, Romney tucked away his money in the - Cayman Islands, etc. NM
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You haven't heard him say , "people like ME" should pay - their fair share? (nm)
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I've heard him say that MANY times. I guess - sm
[ In Reply To ..]it's a case of selective hearing on someone's partisan practices.
have you listened to his speeches? - fyi
[ In Reply To ..]He ALWAYS says, "people LIKE ME should pay our fair share."
He IS one of the rich members of the population. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]He has admitted that repeatedly. It just goes to show WHO cares about this country (Obama) and who are the UNpatriotic members of Congress that are fighting the end of Bush's tax cuts, and there are plenty of THEM who are rich, too.
But think of all the Secret Service guys we pay for on his vacations, too. - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]He may pay the lodging, food, and entertainment expenses, but we pay for the Secret Service lodging, food, and entertainment expenses.
Also, don't think Obama doesn't deduct those expenses off his taxes or put in for reimbursement from the government (I don't know that, I'm just thinking out loud).
We pay for SS coverage 24/7 no matter where the president is. - nm
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or the opposing candidate. We paid for - Romneys SS (nm)
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Just as all previous presidents have done. - Your point? NM
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Don't forget that if the fiscal cliff is not settled, Obama might - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]not leave right away and it would mean 2 AirForce One trips to Hawaii (remember last year?).
Sorry, but OP is wrong - SM - YD
[ In Reply To ..]George Bush was our most expensive President in terms of vacations, and he spent more days on vacation than any other President. The estimate of the cost of transporting him on Air Force One to his Texas ranch is $20 million in taxpayer money, but the real cost was much higher as we also paid to transport and support staff, family, friends at the ranch. We paid for the real White House and then again for his vacation-based White House.
Don't believe it - the dollars don't compare
[ In Reply To ..]A ranch in Texas is a far cry from all those places in Europe and Africa that Michelle and her extended-family-and-friends entourage traveled to, not to mention all the family vacations in Hawaii. Texas is small change in comparison. And don't forget, many of Bush's vacations were actually working vacations - he carried out his duties as President there. I know some people don't like him, but I do, and I still respect him.
Bush the Great Vacationer - YD
[ In Reply To ..]Bush spent a staggering 977 days or 33% of his Presidency on vacation. In fact, he spent the entire month of August 2001 on vacation in Texas. What was his reaction to receiving while there a CIA briefing warning of imminent danger of attack, possibly on American soil, possibly using airplanes? He is reported to have said, "All right, you've covered your ass now." Then he went fishing.
while Obama and his family have been on permanent vacations - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]or in a campaign mode that for some strange reason takes him all over the world.
How about keeping track of all the days Obama has been on vacation. He might just outdo Bush by the time the next 4 years are over.
That's right. I remember him "working" there - during Katrina NM
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The president "works" everywhere he is, on "vacation" or not. nm - VTMT
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Usually true. Bush, not so much. He was a part-time President. NM - YD
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Didn't Michelle Bachmann - albert
[ In Reply To ..]try and float this fiction a couple years ago? It's de ja vu al over again.
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