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Just in: Obamacare signup count for first month, 10/1- 11/2/2013

Posted: Nov 13, 2013

79,000 of that 106,000 enrolled through state exchanges, which have some glitches but are mostly working pretty well.

26,800 enrolled through the federal exchange.

19.5 million people visited healthcare.gov during the reporting period 10/1 - 11/2.

Nearly 400,000 new people have been determined to be eligible for Medicaid (can expect a large enrollment rate in this group).

Other info:

Originally, before the computer problems were realized, reportedly the expected enrollment during the first month was as much as 500,000, so this is about 20% of expected so far.

Projected enrollment at current technologic conditions through the rest of November is @800,000. However, this does not include any improvements to the federal computer system OR changes in enrollment method by people shopping the federal exchange through other websites, going directly to the insurance companies, or increasing rate of signups by phone or in person.

For some perspective, when Massachusetts started computer signups for their system under Romney, the computers worked okay but only 123 (0.3%) signed up the first month, by the end of the year 36,000.

Note that the original expectation was that the excellentdeal Obamacare is for states governments and citizens would combine with insurance company and hospital pressure to result in most states setting up their own exchanges. The federal exchange was not expected to have to handle the signups from 36 states.

Next year, perhaps more people in the 36 disadvantaged states will join business to demand parity with the residents of other states who are purchasing insurance at lower prices, and often significantly better, this year.

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Thanks for update - wheres_my_job

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I am going to sign up. Let me get some job issues settled first.

and just where did you get this - info?

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My local news station, just yesterday, had completely different percentages...like only 50,000 had signed up and the expected rate for the first month was to be 500,000. I highly doubt that it increased as much as you tend to say in one day! projection for December was 700,000, and I do not think they will reach that, either. I doubt if my local news channel was "lying" about the percentages either.

Not OP, but this article says "about 106,000." - Khaled

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Roughly 35,000 signed up in the first month in my state alone, so maybe your local news was talking about statewide, not nationwide.

Reuters is saying 975,000 people have applied and been deemed eligible, but they have not yet chosen a plan.

Lower rates?? - mt

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I have not talked to one single person yet who has been quoted a lower rate. I have many friends/family who have had their coverage cancelled. Most of them are finding out the minimum plans on the exchange websites are double, even triple what they were paying, and the insurance plan is NOT better than what they had. One friend went from paying $250 a month with a $2000 deductible, to being quoted a plan rate of $850 a month with a $7500 deductible. How is that cheaper and better insurance??

I was quoted a lower rate by $136 a month. - Khaled

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So now you have talked to one person.

Before the subsidies, it was higher than my current plan. But after those were applied, it dropped substantially. Either way, I kept my own insurance because I do not like change! But also, I'm going to wait until all the kinks get worked out before I attempt to switch.

There's only one way premiums would - double or triple

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and that would be those who are living in red states with GOP governors who have refused to expand Medicaid and/or set up exchanges. Residents of those states get a double-whammy as a result. All those qualified for Medicaid are DENIED that access and on top of that, residents cannot take advantage of the subsidies either. I know this because I am one of those residents in Texas who WOULD qualify for Medicaid but will not be getting that coverage, thanks to Governor Perry.

Therefore, those alleged doubled or tripled premium rates are being charged by the insurance companies who are gouging their policy holders after being required to provide decent coverage that complies with ACA standard provisions. BTW, I don't know a single person who was able to afford an individual plan before ACA. I also don't know anyone who has an employer plan that has been canceled.

What? I am in OH with a Rep. Gov. who expanded Medicaid - ..and my premiums doubled!!

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We must pay for the Medicaid expansion, so you have it backwards, plus pay for all kinds of "mandatory" add-ons we don't need. I can no longer afford to buy insurance thanks to Obamacare. This whole thing is going to go down in flames. I just hope it does not take the entire economy with it !

Have you applied the subsidies? - When you look at EHealth for example

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Those are NOT the "Obamacare rates" - those are the rates without the subsidies. The "Obamacare rates" are much lower. Please go to the trouble of inputting your income and then tell us your rate is doubling. See link below.

Ohio here - too...

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Our plan is $331 per month for me and my two kids and fortunately is good until the end of next year, but will then most likely go up because I'll need to add pediatric dental (which I don't need because we pay cash at the dentist) and maternity (which I REALLY don't need), so I'm certain my premium will go up, even though I will be paying for benefits I won't use.

And you haven't heard of anyone with an employer plan that has been canceled because Obama delayed the employer mandate for a year. Wait until next summer and you'll hear of plenty because businesses won't be able to pay the higher prices to keep their employees covered. That one should hit just in time for the mid-terms.

Who told you have "have" to add pediatric dental - and maternity?

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I have never heard of this practice. Insurance companies never delineate what you are paying for in your premiums, you might then realize it's virtually nothing. So who told you you have to "add" these items?

Please explain why you think this and also have you applied the subsidies as per above to see if you qualify? I have a family of four and income not good. The premiums (were I allowed to pay them instead of the bad insurance my employer has been allowed to grandfather) would be all of $200/month for all 4 of us WITH the subsidy applied.

Just wondering who told you you have to add those benefits you won't be using? Why do I think it is an insurance company or a broker? What about calling up the ACA navigator to help you. I doubt very much whether you have to specifically pay for benefits you cannot partake in.

Well, Jarrett did threaten the American people - with payback

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Looks like this is it. You didn't vote for the O you pay more.

No, chances are she didn't, at all. - ssdm

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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/unraveling-story-behind-valerie-jarretts-bogus-payback-quote

Thank you for posting this - nm

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That quote attributed to Jarrettt - has been debunked

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Ms. Jarrett apparently never made this threat. The quote was hearsay and no source confirmed.

Right... husband and I had plan at 400 a month for both of us - Obamacare bronze rate is now 800 with worse insura

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People are apparently outright lying to make Obamacare look good, but the truth is, it is literally going to kill some people!

Have you applied the subsidies to your premium - I suggest you try that if you haven't

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In most cases, your insurance is DECREASED unless you make a lot of money.

I had a patient complain to me the other - day that she lost

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her BCBS coverage because of Obamacare. THEN, she went on to say that she now has twice the coverage for half the price through United Healthcare. And she was complaining! For a minute there, I wondered if I was working in a shrink's office :-)

There ya go - There is a real issue with ideology

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It's one thing to keep voting against your best interests year after year (IMHO anyone who votes Republican and is not a millionaire is voting against their interests) because I guess you want abortion to be illegal? Or something? Or the deficit? Or Benghazi. Whatevs.

Now we have the situation where ideologically these people can literally not bring themselves to help themselves and their families obtain reasonably priced health insurance simply because Obama.

Sounds like that lady bit the bullet and bravely fought her own instincts to actually better her life. Brava!

You certainly ARE acting as a therapist for these people. If they can bounce their incoherent ignoramus resentments off you and yet still do the right thing, I would consider it a very compassionate service that you do!

What in the world are you talking about.... - NOT THE TRUTH, OBVIOUSLY!!!

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Look,
My plan was cancelled due to Obamacare, and I was able to shop through EHealth. They do have the obamacare rates. My least expensive NEW plan ... worse insurance with higher premiums, will be at least double what my family paid before. I hear this over and over from other people. The only people being very hurt by Obamacare are the MIDDLE class, those he promised to stick up for. This entire plan is a fraud! We are being forced to pay for benefits we will NEVER use. This should be illegal! Obama is looking very very bad now with his dropping approval, and he so deserves it... mostly for his total dishonestly! Now, be honest with yourself!

EHealth rates do NOT - include subsidies

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I tried out the page and realized it requested no details of income, so how could the rates be accurate, since subsidies are a big part of the ACA. The "Obamacare rates" that EHealth gives you do not include the subsidies so I suggest you find out if you are eligible for them. The link below will calculate them for you.

I got some quotes for my family, calculated the subsidy and it greatly reduced the premiums. I only WISH my employer would not provide the crappy insurance they do so I would be eligible.

Sorry, but your irate response totally illustrates the cognitive dissonance I refer to above from people who are much more concerned with blasting the ACA and President Obama than actually getting their families insured affordably. Please try to find out if you are eligible for subsidies and get back to us, will you?

If the insurance is so crappy, why is Obama - "telling" insurance companies

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to make it available again? Why do people want to keep their plan?

Answer, it's so unpopular that they are delaying it until 2014 midterms.

Speaking for myself only - my insurance is not good

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My guess is all these hordes of people who want to keep their insurance have not had to claim on it, if they had they would realize it is not good. I never claim on mine either, because I am incentivized by the very policy not to even go to the doctor.

Just because the premium is $80 every two weeks and you get a free physical and mammogram, everything else is subject to a $2500 deductible which means I am not going to the doctor, to the specialist or anything else, even if my mammogram has issues or my physical indicates I need to follow something up. In fact, I don't even take advantage of the free physical or mammogram since I don't want to know if something is wrong because I can't afford to go to a specialist or afford medication.

Basically, if people are stupid enough to want to pay low premiums and in exchange get junk, and they have proven, with the help of Fox News and congress, even some Democrats, that they are that stupid, then let them have it.

Ask yourself why it is so unpopular? Right wing propaganda is the answer.

More importantly, if you are against Obamacare, I challenge any one of you to truly go through that EHealth site and figure out the subsidies to go with the high premium and tell me you TRULY are not paying less if you sign up.

Any congress person who is supporting this backtracking just wants to save their job and cater to the low information crowd. President Obama knows this is his last term, he has nothing to lose except low ratings in the polls, and he still has a long way to go before he reaches those idiots in congress.

100K enrolles, 5 million cancellations - what's FT?

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nm

Pelousy claims 5x more signed up than the numbers show - another pathological liar - go figure

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It's like all the democrat politicians are trying to win the pathological liar of the year award.

I guess they figure when all else fails, just make up "sheet".

Haven't you heard? That honor has been - reserved for

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the right wing collective. They are practically falling all over themselves trying to be top dog in the pathological liar of the year contest. I have neither the time nor the inclincation to wade through the more than 12.6 million Google hits on the "right wing lies about Obamacare" search, but did pull out a good representative example, entitled, "6 Most Brazen Right-Wing Lies About Obamacare," the main list headings of which are summarized below. The piece is very informative, well written, entertaining and impeccably sourced with numerous links. You will find some real doozies there, like

(1) Fox News Warns That If You Sign Up For ObamaCare Hackers Will Steal Your Life Savings.

(2) WorldNetDaily Reports “Obama ‘Crashing Health-Care Site On Purpose’”

(3) Rand Paul: Take Obamacare Or Go To Jail (one of the few original thoughts he didn't plagairize).

(4) Right-Wing Think Tank Mortified That Obamacare Website Links To Voter Registration Form....this was my favorite analysis.

(5) Weekly Standard Finds Imaginary Threat On Obamacare Website (subversive OC plot to covertly acquire access to all your private stuff.

(6) Fox News Fears ACORN Is Back To Push ObamaCare.

Naturally, Fox seems to hold the contest lead here.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/24/6_most_brazen_right_wing_lies_about_obamacare_partner/

Wrong again - The honor goes to Obama with Hillary and - The Impeached Pubah trailing close behind

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nm

What's FT? - Again

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just curious what FT means.

it's a moniker - nm

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No, that wasn't in her moniker - nm

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nevermind - nm

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It is her moniker - - ZvilleMT

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she just uses it inside her posts instead of on the tag line. I think it stands for Fellow Traveler, unless someone else has stolen it for themselves :)

Thanks Zville - Again

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Since it wasn't in her tag line and at the end of the post though with the first letter being an "F" thought it was meant something else. LOL

Looks like I need to find a new doctor after 10 yrs, - with the same doc. She quit!

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My doctor after 10 years with her and she is only 42 yrs old, has decided to leave the medical practice and be with her family more.

A friend of mine who knows her stated my doc left the medical profession. She is done with the drama at work and her pay decreasing and decided that since she has finished paying off her school loans, she is going to stay at home with the kids and have less stress.

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