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Posted: May 20, 2013

I assume that their republican governor will ask for disaster relief from Obama. I can only hope that she is as gracious towards Obama as Governor Christie was.

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Of course she would be. Why wouldn't she? - Christie is my hero (and I'm a conservative)

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Trying to start something? LOL

36 Republican senators voted against Hurricane Sandy aid. - sm

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When the Senate passed the long-delayed $50.5 billion Hurricane Sandy relief package Monday, 36 Republicans voted against the bill. But of the 32 no-votes from Senators who are not brand-new members, at least 31 came from Republicans who had previously supported emergency aid efforts following disasters in their own states.

While opponents complained that the bill contained too much unrelated "pork," each of the 30 of them who had been present earlier this month when the Senate passed the much-smaller $9 billion Sandy relief bill also voted no. All five top members of the Senate Republican leadership voted no on both.

Most incredible among the no voters were Senators Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) and Pat Toomey (R-PA). Those two had not just backed disaster aid in the past - they actually sought disaster aid for their own states for relief from Hurricane Sandy. And Sen. John Boozman (R-AR) endorsed disaster relief for snow storms damages in Arkansas just four days before casting his "nay" vote.

The â��hypocriticalâ�� list includes:
1.Kelly Ayotte (R-NH): Requested disaster aid after Hurricane Sandy.

2.John Barrasso (R-WY), Republican Policy Committee Chair: Requested disaster aid after flooding.

3.Roy Blunt (R-MO), Republican Conference Vice Chair: Demanded the Senate be called back from recess to pass disaster aid during a drought and boasts: "When a disaster surpasses the ability of states and communities to rebuild, Senator Blunt believes the federal government should prioritize spending to help the people whose lives and livelihoods are impacted. During his time in the Senate, he has fought tirelessly to ensure that Missouri gets its fair share of those federal resources specifically dedicated to disaster recovery."

4.John Boozman (R-AR): Requested disaster aid after snow storms in January 2013.

5.Richard Burr (R-NC): Requested disaster aid after severe storms.

6.Saxby Chambliss (R-GA): Requested disaster aid after flooding.

7.Dan Coats (R-IN): Requested disaster aid after tornadoes.

8.Tom Coburn (R-OK): Requested disaster aid after winter storms and for extreme drought.

9.Bob Corker (R-TN): Requested disaster aid after flooding and asked for supplemental emergency flood relief.

10.John Cornyn (R-TX), Republican Minority Whip: Demanded drought relief aid and requested disaster aid for wildfires.

11.Mike Crapo (R-ID): Boasted of obtaining a FEMA fire safety grant and pushed for a bill providing emergency drought relief.

12.Mike Enzi (R-WY): Requested disaster relief after flooding.

13.Lindsey Graham (R-SC): Requested disaster relief after freezing and boasted of obtaining emergency drought relief.

14.Chuck Grassley (R-IA): Requested disaster relief after severe hail storms.

15.Orrin Hatch (R-UT): Requested disaster relief after flooding.

16.James Inhofe (R-OK): Boasted of obtaining disaster relief after severe storms and drought.

17.Johnny Isakson (R-GA): Requested disaster aid after flooding.

18.Mike Johanns (R-NE): Requested disaster relief after flooding and blasted Democrats for "inaction on disaster relief" for drought and wildfires.

19.Ron Johnson (R-WI): Requested disaster relief after a blizzard.

20.Mark Kirk (R-IL): Appealed after FEMA denied assistance following severe storms and tornadoes.

21.Mike Lee (R-UT): After calling federal disaster relief unconstitutional, endorsed relief aid after flooding in Utah.

22.John McCain (R-AZ): Endorsed disaster relief after flooding.

23.Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Republican Minority Leader: Requested disaster relief during a drought and after tornadoes.

24.Jerry Moran (R-KS): Requested disaster relief after tornadoes.

25.Rand Paul (R-KY): Requested disaster relief during a drought and after tornadoes.

26.Rob Portman (R-OH): Endorsed disaster relief during a drought and after storms.

27.Pat Roberts (R-KS): Boasted of obtaining disaster relief after drought and wildfires and criticized the Bush administration for inadequate emergency relief after a blizzard.

28.Marco Rubio (R-FL): Requested disaster relief after severe freezing.

29.Jeff Sessions (R-AL): Requested disaster relief after tornadoes and during a drought.

30.John Thune (R-SD), Republican Conference Chair: Requested disaster relief after flooding and snow storms

31.Pat Toomey (R-PA): Requested disaster relief for Hurricane Sandy before it even hit landfall.

Not one of the opponents has co-sponsored Sen. Harry Reid's (D-NV) "Extreme Weather Prevention and Resilience Act" which would encourage Congress to "prepare and protect communities from extreme weather, sea-level rise, drought, flooding, wildfire, and other changing conditions exacerbated by carbon pollution" and "reducing pollution, promoting the use of clean energy sources, and improving energy efficiency."

Excellent reply. - Yes indeed. nm

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I thought Sandy Hook Elementary tragedy would bring gun common sense. - sm

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will this be a catalyst for the tea party to recognize the science behind climate change and take some action?

Nah.

You're kidding, right? (sm) - Proud Tea Partier

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One doesn't have anything to do with the other. Get a clue. Please.

Is "get a clue" the new TP/RW/Con mantra now? OP had a valid - point, this post did not NM

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No, get a clue is MINE. It means (sm) - Open at your own risk

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one person's idea of common sense isn't necessarily another's. Look at who yall elected President.

I think it was the fleeting appeal to common sense that - triggered the hissy

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The "get a clue" diss is so much easier to muster than any coherent anti-science argument.

I never have been one to worry about what others do (sm) - Besides

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the reason many voted against it was because of the lying Democrats who filled it with pork.

Not quite. How do you explain the 58 GOP reps - sm

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who supported the pork-laden Katrina aid bill in 2005, then turned around and voted against aid for their northern neighbors? Pork allergy does not apply here. More like the red-state/blue-state syndrome with disasters victims caught up in the crossfire.

Here's is a few reasons why they voted against the bill the first time - Truthhurts

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What does the following have to do with Hurricane Sandy:

If people think Alaska, Washington state, Colorado, investigations, etc. are all Sandy-related, then someone better learn their geography. I have a couple more things to post about "the why" but it will be a new post.

$150 million for fisheries in Alaska.

$2 million to fix museum roofs in Washington.

$20 million for watershed restoration in response to wildfires in Colorado.

$1 million for the Legal Services Corporation.

$56.8 million for tsunami marine debris remediation.

$5 million for Corps of Engineers investigations unrelated to the hurricane.

$499 million in Corps of Engineers construction funds for disasters occurring before the storm.

$578 million for flood-control mitigation projects by the corps unrelated to the storm.

$28 million for watershed protection activities unrelated to the storm.

$4 million to the F.B.I. to replace vehicles, office equipment and furniture.

$1 million for the Drug Enforcement Administration to replace 15 vehicles and equipment.

$230,000 to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to replace three vehicles and furniture.

$15 million for construction at NASA facilities, including restoration of sand berms.

$855,000 to Immigration and Customs Enforcement to replace vehicles.

$300,000 for the Secret Service to replace vehicles and communications equipment.

$50 million for National Park Service historic preservation activities.

$150 million for the Interior Department to create a fund that may be used for restoration at national parks and refuges affected by disasters.

$2 billion in Community Development Block Grant funds reserved exclusively for activities related to the mitigation of future disasters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/nyregion/expenditures-for-a-hurricane-and-beyond.html?ref=nyregion

Thank you Truthhurts for bringing much needed - truth to the board - annieb

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Good research as always.

Thanks for your posts. It a refreshing break than all the Tea Party, Republican/Conservative hate I've been reading the past couple days.

Keep up the great research. When they start foaming at the mouths you know you've done your job right. Love your posts.

Other Reasons and explanations - a bit long - Truthhurts

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The bill goes far beyond the immediate need for emergency assistance by funding a massive coastal engineering effort that is not based on science or wise planning. As currently proposed, the bill would give the U. S. Army Corps of Engineers roughly $4.5 billion to spend on coastal construction projects related to “flood control and risk reduction.” Most troubling, the bill requires the Corps to attempt to rebuild the New Jersey and New York beaches to their “design profile.” In other words, the Corps will work to put the beaches back exactly as they were before the storm, ignoring the reality of rising sea levels and intensifying storms as the world warms.

This is not emergency disaster relief. It is the development of coastal policy. And that ill-advised policy is this: We will try to hold the precarious shoreline in place and protect property and infrastructure with a major investment of taxpayer dollars in coastal engineering.

The money should be spent on long-term solutions such as buying out owners of high-risk properties.

What’s worse, the Corps need only determine that a project is “cost effective.” Projects do not need to have been previously authorized or reviewed, and environmental impacts need not be addressed. The Sandy bill even authorizes the Corps to spend, without environmental review, roughly $1 billion “to address damages from previous natural disasters” unrelated to Hurricane Sandy.

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/hurricane_sandy_relief_bill_fails_to_face_coastal_realities/2606/

…the bill allocates billions to dozens of federal agencies, including the National Park Service, the Smithsonian, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Secret Service, the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. But the bill also specifies the agencies must spend the money on Sandy-related expenses.

As for the votes against the flood insurance program, the Katrina and Sandy bills were basically the same. But there is an important difference: The program has fallen at least $20 billion into the red since Katrina. And it doesn't take in enough revenue to pay the money back.
The Katrina bill raised the limit on borrowing for the program by $2 billion — subsequent legislation increased it by billions more to cover Katrina-related losses. And the Sandy bill upped the borrowing limit by another $9.7 billion.

"We're continually bailing out this program and it's clear that it's no longer solvent," said Heather Vaughan, a spokeswoman for Rep. Randy Neugebauer of Texas, who voted to let the flood insurance program — which insures 5.7 million homes — borrow more money in 2005 but against it this month.
"It would be irresponsible to raise an insolvent program's debt ceiling without making the necessary reforms," Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin said in a statement after the vote this month.

How did the flood insurance program fall so deeply into debt? The short answer is Hurricane Katrina.

"The program worked well for a good number of years," said David Maurstad, who ran the program from 2004 to 2008. Funded by annual premiums paid by homeowners, the program was self-sufficient and had even built up a reserve of about $2 billion by 2004, according to Maurstad. But it wasn't designed to handle a catastrophic year like 2005, when Hurricanes Katrina, Rita and Wilma left the program on the hook for $17.7 billion in claims. So Congress authorized the program to borrow the money to pay the claims.

But the flood insurance program didn't have any way to repay those funds. It takes in only about $3.5 billion a year in premiums, and the claims have overwhelmed premiums in four of the last eight years.

http://www.propublica.org/article/the-58-representatives-who-voted-for-katrina-aid-and-against-sandy-aid

But what about that issue raised above? - sm

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The red states Katrina southern pork served up in 2005 that sailed through in record time versus the GOP's sudden adversion to the same dish cooked blue state northern style offered post Sandy? Your posts are long on alleged reasons but short on explanations for that phenomenon.

This shows that you didn't read the entire post - Truthhurts

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The answers are in the posts I made.

After checking the voting records of the 36 senators who - sm

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according to this article are suddenly expressing politically expedient deep concern over rising sea levels and the need for a more long-term (wait for it) progressive approach to solving the problem, I gotta say that actions speak louder than words....every time. That list of 36 contains global warming deniers and skeptics along with only a few willing to admit that it kinda sorta might be man-made. Without exception, they have all block-voted down any and all measures designed to implement long-term solutions:

NO on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution.
NO on tax credits for renewable electricity.
NO on tax incentives for energy production and conservation.
NO on tax incentives for renewable energy.
NO on investing in homegrown biofuel.
NO on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies.
NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels.
YES on a bar of greenhouse gases from Clean Air Act rules.
NO to renewable energy tax credits.
Signed onto the No Climate Tax Pledge by AFP.

With records like this, you expect the intelligent among us to believe they are sincerely concerned about long-term solutions for beachfront flood initiatives and NOT motivated by the same ole obstruction we've witnessed ever since Mitch McConnell set America straight on GOP priorities?

Really?

emergency aid - Roseanne

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And if Mitt Romney were president, Oklahoma would be relying on "private donations" right now. :-(

Seems like a fair question - All things considered

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Oh, did I strike a nerve? Republicans aren't - sm

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allowed to show any kind of non-partisan grace when dealing with President Obama. Chris Christie showed such grace and dignity, and now he's the republicans' enemy.

Trying to start something?? No, and I don't understand that question. Like WHAT? It just so happens that I, too, think that Chris Christie is a hero, risking the wrath of the republican party.

Time will tell just how gracious she is. I hope my prediction is wrong and that she treats him with respect, but I'll believe it when I see it.

By the way, Oklahoma is one of the states that voted AGAINST funding for disaster relief.

Its easy to hate the Feds until - you need something from them

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OK is a hotbed of red

Even easier to pretend you'll never be - among the needy

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until something like this happens. Makes me remember how time stood still for literally months after Hurricane Ike left its death and destruction after it visited my area. No electricity, AC, TV, phones or computer for weeks on end, no potable water, food shortages, damage to the car and house, trees and debris in the streets blocking access in and out of the neighborhood, signs and traffic signals down all over, which presented major obstacles for search and rescue personnel. Hospitals all around were working under horrendously compromised conditions.

We were among the lucky ones whose homes were left standing and most possessions remained protected against widespread regional flooding. The storm did not discriminate between classes, races, religions or political affiliations. Neither did the help FEMA had to offer. Shutter to think just how much longer recovery would have been without them.

It's not the Feds they hate. Plain and simple, - sm

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they hate President OBAMA, and they make that crystal clear every single day on this board, ad nauseam.

What a terrible tragedy. - so sad

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My thoughts and prayers go out to the people in Moore, and I sincerely hope they get the federal aid they need to rebuild their community.

Tornado - MT

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Yes, I am sure that is what the parents of the children who were in the school that was destroyed were worried about. While they read the names of the children who were rescued over the radio for us all so the parents could find out if they were alive or dead, they must have been terribly worried about whether or not we here in OK would receive funds and how this stacks up against any other disaster for a democrat or republican. Seriously, we are not worried about funds. We pay our federal taxes IN ALL STATES for this purpose. Also, OK has a rainy day fund for just this purpose that we have already been okay'd to use that we in OK pay into and it's not federal dollars.

Really? Rainy Day funds are not solely dedicated for - natural disaster "rainy day" use

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It's there for state budget shortfalls. There is a cap on how much can be held in the RD fund. In OK, it's 15% of general revenues. Most recent 2012 figures I can find help tell the story. The first 10 months of FY 2012-213, general revenues totaled 4.4 billion. Based on a projected total for the year general revenue collections would be around $5.52 billion. By law, were the fund filled to the max, it would cap out at $828 million.

But in OK, like many other states, that fund was depleted by recessionary budget shortfalls by 2009-2010. It has recovered nicely since then with amounts ranging around $556 million. However, there is NO WAY that entire amount will be released for natural damage use, considering overall allocation breakdown. For OK 51% is dedicated to education, 30% for health and human services and the remaining 20% for all other state services. The HHS allocation is further divied up between disaster recovery use and ongoing baseline budget requirements.

In this case, 30% of HHS funds top out at $166.8 million. As one can imagine, natural disaster recovery has to compete against the health juggernaut, and with the other pie pieces contained in the "human services" allotments. Though I was not able to find precise figures on that specific fund, it's not that difficult to see how adequate those amounts might be when faced with this kind of devastation.

The 1999 Moore tornado outbreak left $1.1 BILLION in damages. Because of the size of this storm and the duration it was on the ground, damage estimates are expect to exceed those from 1999. I'll leave it to you to do the math on how much of a shortfall that RD fund is going to encounter, which will be recovered when Governor Fallin INEVITABLY applies for major disaster declaration.

That said, if you have your TV on, you must realize that the required material support in terms of heavy equipment, first responder personnel, shelter, food and medical facilities and suppies is WAY beyond what the state can produce for itself within the time frame imperative of disasters of this magnitude.

All true but not my point - MT

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I don't need to turn my TV on to know. I am here in OK, I only need to look outside. And I was here in 1999. My point was simply that trying to make this a democrat/republican issue was stomach churning. My other point was, OK does have a plan in place (not just for money), we will use money that the state has, 45 million so far ok'd (not counting all that has been raised which is considerable, all volunteer help and donations. I know that if you have your TV on, you must think that the only tornado to hit was in Moore. But it wasn't. States should have plans in place to help with the cost. We all pay into it and no one, not New Jersey, New York or Iowa should be told no.

Here: http://www.fema.gov/disasters (aid listed by state and year).

And here: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/state/washington-oklahoma-politicians-focus-on-moore-shawnee-tornado-aid-rainy-day-fund-in-okla-plan (how they will use the fund)

(from website listed below)9.7 billion dollars plus WH asking for 50 billion more. Yet, the people who need help still are not getting any in the affected areas.

Here are just a few examples of the billions in government pork and waste included in the Hurricane Sandy relief measure:

- $28 billion is appropriated for future disaster mitigation projects.
- Over $12 billion to Housing & Urban Development for unrelated block grants.
- $188 million for Amtrak expansion.
- $150 million set-aside for fisheries in Alaska and elsewhere.
- $50 million for tree planting on private property.
- $100 million earmarked for Head Start centers.

From here: http://www.behindtheheadlines.net/sections/bthl/videos/vid_148.shtml

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