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George Pataki enters the race

Posted: May 28, 2015

Interestingly, just saw a poll, that shows pretty much every one of the Republicans tied, except for Christie at 4% and Fiorina at 2% (no surprises there IMO).

The rest are all early viable candidates.

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My liberal friends refer to this as a "clown car." If anyone - else runs, the clowns will need

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a bus.

I also heard someone say 17 candidates and counting. I thought that was funny.

No thanks, Pataki, but I do appreciate him taking Northeast votes away from other RINO candidates. I stick with Cruz.

And your liberal/left-leaning friends appreciate your independent thinking & sense of humor:) - humor:)~Julia Sugarbaker

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Only when I make fun of my own party and not when I - say I'd rather vote for a Reagan hologram

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than any Democrat candidate. It's a delicate balance, humor that it.

Bus - Blanche

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The Republican clown car has indeed turned into a bus. But it's still a short bus.

Cruz is my senator. - sm

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I know him like the back of my own hand. Rafael Cruz has so much in common with Obama when he ran, that it's really hard to fathom why any of the Obama haters who've criticized Obama relentlessly for some of the same things on Cruz's resume would actually vote for him.

* He wasn't born in the Continental United States.
* He's a Harvard elitist.
* He's a one-term senator.
* He's a lawyer.
* He has no foreign policy experience.
* I could go on, but why bother.

Believe me when I tell you that Cruz does not have a snowball's chance in hell of being the Republican nominee for President of the United States. That is a FACT!

What Cruz will do for the Republican presidential race will, however, be invaluable. He will push the entire field so far to the right that the winner of that long, drawn out fiasco will be so conservative as to be most likely unelectable.

Thanks, Canada!

No, the Cruz family has nothing in common with Obama who was raised - by communists. Rafael escaped

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communists. Nice try though.

I seriously doubt anyway if a conservative has a change in this God-less culture we call America now, so you should feel good about that.

The millennial generation is lost, but the generation - after that is the only hope to

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return to an America like the founding.

Obama wasn't raised by communists. - sm

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Rafael's father, on the other hand, fought for communism in Cuba. You can deny it all you want, but it is an indisputable fact.

America has never been "God-less," and I doubt if we ever will be. America is a country that has ALWAYS been a melting pot of different faiths or no faith at all. That's what this country was actually founded on. They could have very easily written God into our Constitution, but the founding fathers knew what they were doing when they chose not to do that.

It would be really great if certain sects of the different Abrahamic religions would stop trying to rewrite history and stop trying to rewrite our United States Constitution.

From Ted's Father's Own Speech - Truthhurts

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He spoke before a crowd in 2013. He was only a teenager and tired of living under a military dictatorship so he got involved in the revolution. He admitted he thought Fidel was going to be good for Cuba, that he was going to be their liberator but he was imprisoned, tortured and beaten for being "part" of the revolution.

Fidel promised Hope and Change,but when he went back after Fidel took over, he was shocked. Fidel was changing the country by talking about how the rich were evil and how they oppressed the people and how they needed to redistribute the wealth. He attacked the press, attacking religion, confiscating property, then began socializing medicine and imposing wage and price controls, reducing everyone's salary to the least common denominator. As a result, free enterprise was destroyed, production was destroyed and today, the average salary in Cuba is $14 a month. Fidel also mandated that all schools had to teach Marxist ideology.

There is so much more. Ted's father wasn't a communist, nor were his father's parents, but leave it to the liberal progressives to claim he was a communist just because he was born in Cuba and thought he was on the right side AS A TEENAGER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ym4Xt0T6fM

As a teenager, but still a conscious choice to fight for communism. Now can we have proof - Obama was 'raised by communists' please?

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Because that's the second part of the assertion as fact the original commenter claimed.

JS

Obama's mother, an anti-American sent him to live with Frank - Marshall, a card carrying communist

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who mentored him.

The Communist: Frank Marshall Davis—The Untold Story of Barack Obama's Mentor”is a good read.

Obama, his Marxist/Communist Past is a very well - researched article on the subject...

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The ideology of the Marxist, Socialist, and Communist just kept growing throughout Obama’s life from the times when he first grew up maybe even to now, especially the way he loves to use the terms of all the Marxist, Socialist, and Communist, take from the wealthy and give to the poor while no one works, allowing the Government to pay their way, a position which has failed in every country that may have tried this ideology! All we have to do is go back to people Obama himself has stated were great influences in his life, people like Frank Marshall, a known member of the Communist Party of the United States of America, better known by the acronym, CPUSA!

Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979," which was also based upon, Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein).

Communism, Socialism, Marxism, take your pick, none of them are about Freedom nor the Constitution! They all would be totally destructive to both the Constitution and the Freedom of the very people Obama is supposed to be helping!

Now his campaign manager, David Axelrod, who’s mother was once a journalist on the pro-communist paper PM. PM was considered the alternative paper in the Communist Party circles to the Daily Worker. Knowing this, just what type of influence would one think if they knew of a friend whose mother was a Communist worker and what would that individual do when they found this out? Would we as a nation, the United States allow a communist to advise a Presdient? Would this be seen beneficial to our Constitution and our Freedom?

Although Obama denies his association with Bill Ayers, any one who knew of the young Obama and Obama in Chicago, knows full well Obama was a part of Bill Ayers, so just what does Obama and Bill Ayers have in common, just look back at their ideologies and it becomes very clear just what they think and how they see things. Bill Ayers was a member of the Weathermen, a group of “revolutionary Marxist”, now what did Obama do while in Occidental, yes, he also was a “revolutionary Marxist” according to the revelations of Dr. John Drew.

Now we can look at some more associations of Obama to see if he had any “freedom” worshiping people and low and behold, none are to be found, yet we can and do find more Marxist, Socialist, and Communist.

And my parents are fundamentalist far-right wingers, so much for parental influence on politics:) - which was the point I was getting toJS

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Before making that point, I wanted to point out, though, that those pretending Rafael Cruz never made a conscious choice for communism just isn't true.

However, where I was actually headed after that truth had been revealed, was that I think the entire argument that because either Ted OR Obama's parental influences were once communist, that this automatically means THEY are communist by default, is absurd.

Example: My parents are fundamentalist, far right-wing Republicans - so much for always following in your parents footsteps, then, huh? :)

I'm still a Christian, just not fundamentalist, and this is why I can "hear" the right better than some other left-leaners sometimes and interpret them to the left lol.

Regardless, none of these people are "antiamerican" just because they don't agree with certain politics. What a fascist thing to say.

His mother said she hated America and colonialism. - She sympathized with communists

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It's not politics she hated, it's America. It's not fascist to point out facts.

Stating that people said they hate America as fact w/o proof is fascist propaganda. I googled - btw, nothing reputable. Link please?Julia Sugarbak

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Oh, and even if that were true, like I said, my parents are far right wing and I'm not, so what would it prove even if she was again?

I don't use google, and I got lots of links. - nm

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Ok. When done pulling them out of your air, feel free to share, But realize even if true, since my - parents are opposite me politically...JS

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couldn't Obama's parents be?

"Nothing reputable" is the key phrase. Guess she doesnt - like the source. nomsg

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No, by reputable I meant I can't find this claim ever made by any respected conserv. news - WSJ, Nat Rev, NY Times, Wash. Times or even FoxJS

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At least on my search.

If this was fact, I'm quite sure at least one of them would've reported it by now and it'd be readily available on quick search.

All I could find were random opinion blogs and homemade videos of people talking about their suspicions.

If someone would be so kind as to provide a single news link?

Otherwise, I have work to do, and the only thing anyone making wild claims about Obama's family have proven is they don't even care about their own purported politics themselves, they're just here to annoy people and troll, making the right look bad by default (and they don't need any more help with that).

Fascism is what we have now, business in bed with government. - There's plenty of information

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about Obama's mother's ties to communism and it's influence on him.

At least I'm being called a fascist this time and not a racist. What a refreshing twist.

No, fascism is what the liberals are fighting against. sm - oldtimer

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We want repeal of Citizens United which says corporations are people. We also want Wall Street to be held accountable and don't believe banks should be too big to fail. The right wing is doing their best to drag us in the direction of fascism but we are on to them. Fascists by definition are also racists.

Wall Street and banks are in bed with a centralized - government. I'd call that fascism.

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Obama took over GM too.

Some fed gov is necessary. Ask Texas after the floods.Thx for inadvertantly proving our point tho - this link has been posted 3 times now JS

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This is the "go to" party donor list of all major banks and corporations:

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

Note that even the "grey" color code of supposed "neutral" or "50/50" donors give $5000 to $25000 more to Republican party.

Note that all major banks (including the ones found guilty of currency manipulation) give more to the Republican Party.

Note the American Bankers Association itself is coded pink/red for being largely Republican Party Donors.

Note also the actual amounts given by some corporations vs. others.

Again, far right, not helping your side look better to state opinion as fact without checking.

And if not a fan of fascism, you're on the wrong side?

He's inspiring. I've heard stories like this from people who lived - in Russia under communism

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and they all say the same thing. They see so many parallels to what's happening here.

What people don't realize is if you don't tow the party line, you'll be imprisoned or killed, and the law is arbitrary.

OMG! "Do as we say, not as we do" coming from conservatives! - sm

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Okay, so he's also a jail bird too. Sounds to me like Rafael would have kept fighting for Castro except......... Oh, bad luck....... he got caught and thrown into a Cuban prison for doing it. Rafael Bienvenido Cruz, born in Matanzas Cuba, fought alongside Fidel Castro in order to overthrow U.S. backed dictator Fulgencio Batista and only stopped fighting when he was apprehended and thrown into prison! Since the U.S. government had supported the Batista regime since 1952, the elder Rafael Cruz by taking up arms against the Batista dictatorship would today be considered a terrorist for taking up arms against US interests. He only stopped fighting when he was apprehended and thrown in prison.

Then Rafael the elder had some kind of family connection with a lawyer friend who bribed his way out of Cuba to the United States to pursue the American dream. Except that is kind of a load of bull crap when you consider that he actually moved to Canada in order to pursue the American dream. LOL. The fact is that Rafael actually then became a citizen in Canada where his son Rafael was then born. Then the family returns to the United States after 8 years in Canada. Only 48 years later did Rafael Cruz the elder finally become a United States citizen. Wait, what? That's right--48 years later!

OMG! If Barack Obama's father had fought with guerilla groups "AS A TEENAGER" or any age and helped usher in the communist dictatorship of Fidel Castro and only stopped fighting because he got arrested for the doing of it, conservatives would have a field day with that story with some idiot on the right-wing fringe no doubt making movies talking about how Obama had daddy issues because of his father........ Oh, wait!

Now aren't the liberals just awful people for telling the truth about Rafael Cruz's father who actually fought for communism up until he got thrown into Cuban prison? What a bunch of meanies the liberals are! (sarcasm alert)

As an immigration issue recap, the father of Rafael Cruz by the name of Rafael Cruz, left Cuba after bribing a Cuban official, entered the U.S. on a 4-year student visa that he then converted to a political asylum visa. Rafael Cruz then married a U.S. citizen, and that granted him an automatic jump to the front of the line for a green card. The elder Cruz then left the U.S. to pursue the American dream in Canada and became a Canadian citizen, only to return to the U.S. and apply for citizenship 48 years after leaving Cuba.

So under those circumstances, wouldn't it be some kind of hypocrisy for Rafael Cruz the younger to argue that his father followed the immigration rules and claim that was why he was against immigration reform?

The Obama haters' and birthers' whining and crying to the contrary, but facts are facts, and this is one of those instances where truth certainly hurts during the reaping of what they've sown.

And nothing against Rafael, but why is illegal Cuban immigration ok w/some Republicans if it's - really about jobs instead of votes?Julia Sugarbake

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Nothing against Cruz or Cubans, my fiance's best friend is Cuban and his parents are former refugees - he's anti-Castro, but he's also still left, because he understands that what Castro did to the left was perversion of the principles.

And he's in law enforcement to boot! lol

My point is, the complaint has been "taking our jobs" but it's okay if it's from a country we deem communist regimen that tortured people, but no one heard or cared or encouraged immunity for Chilean refugees to come here in the 80s under the fascist murderer Pinochet, who tortured and murdered nearly an estimated 300. Why? Because the US financially supported his regime as "anticommunist."

So as long as the government tells us their okay, they're okay, even though those same people cry there's too much government. Dohkay. People are sheep, it's really sad.

Washington Times (Conservative) says Rafael Cruz fought for Castro first. Also, I do not understand - this about Ted Cruz, please explain?JS

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WT claim's Rafael Cruz actually fought for Castro then turned against him:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/24/ted-cruzs-narrative-cuba-omits-fathers-role-fighti/

I do not understand a candidate who wants smaller government/less intervention but then also wants to change constitutional and state government law (which is a liberal thing to do) in order to push Christian values into law further - it's actually liberal, hypocritical and the exact opposite of what our forefathers intended.

The reason they even came here was the right not to be persecuted for having different beliefs within the Christian faith itself and protected that right by making laws vague and separating church from state, especially after the witch hunts of 1692.

But now we want to push it to only one faith, just one Christian way of thinking? Somebody please explain that?

Because otherwise, over the dead bodies of our forefathers, my Revolutionary War ancestors' and mine will Cruz or anyone else EVER push only one way of Christian faith, one way of faith period, into law in this country "so help me God." :)

Even the Russians called Obama a communist, and - they should know! n/msg

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