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General Calls Bordre Crisis an Existential


Posted: Jul 9, 2014

Immigration: The general in charge of U.S. Southern Command says America's porous southern border poses as much a threat as any foreign power, with gangs and terrorist groups hiding among the tidal wave of illegals. If Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, commander of the U.S. Southern Command, keeps warning about the crisis at our southern border, he may soon join the long list of generals and admirals sacked by this administration as it decimates the military. "In comparison to other global threats, the near collapse of societies in the hemisphere with the associated drug and (undocumented immigrant) flow are frequently viewed to be of low importance," Kelly told Defense One, a website focused on national security issues. "Many argue these threats are not existential and do not challenge our national security. I disagree." Kelly, responsible for the Caribbean and all lands south of Mexico, has sounded the alarm that this isn't just a humanitarian crisis of unaccompanied children. "Clearly, criminal networks can move just about anything on these smuggling pipelines," he testified in February to the House Armed Services Committee. "Terrorist organizations could seek to leverage those same smuggling routes to move operatives with intent to cause grave harm to our citizens or even quite easily bring weapons of mass destruction into the United States." Among these threats is Iran's terrorist sock puppet, Hezbollah, below the radar these days as a long-sought Islamic caliphate possibly takes root in parts of Syria and Iraq. Before 9/11, Hezbollah was responsible for more American deaths than any other terrorist group. "Supporters and sympathizers of Lebanese Hezbollah are involved in both licit and illicit activities in the region," Kelly testified. "Members, supporters and adherents of Islamic extremist groups are present in Latin America. Islamic extremists visit the region to proselytize, recruit, establish business venues to generate funds, and expand their radical networks." Then there are violent transnational gangs like Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, which specializes in extortion and human trafficking and has criminal franchises throughout the U.S. "The FBI has warned that MS-13 has a significant presence in California, North Carolina, New York and northern Virginia, and is expanding into new areas of the United States, including Indian reservations in South Dakota," Kelly has told Congress. Roger Noriega, who is an American Enterprise Institute fellow and former assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs during the George W. Bush administration, last month underscored Kelly's warning about MS-13 in the Washington Free Beacon. "There's going to be a time when MS-13 fires an RPG into an Alexandria (Va.) police car, and (Americans) are going to say, 'What the hell happened?'" Noriega said. This is more than a humanitarian crisis of unaccompanied children using the U.S. as an international emergency room, Kelly warns. Drugs like cocaine, heroin and methamphetamines, he tells Defense One, "are produced in Latin America and smuggled into the U.S. along an incredibly efficient network along which anything — hundreds of tons of drugs, people, terrorists, potentially weapons of mass destruction or children — can travel, so long as they can pay the fare." And American citizens, wondering what we have a National Guard and Border Patrol for, will pay the price for the drugs, crime and potential terrorist activity made possible by President Obama's border policies. ;

I was listening to the radio today about this and - there's no paper trail of these

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people, no identification for those we're processing and placing all over the country. No one is keeping track and this is just inviting chaos.

He says there is no end in site, with no investigation, all the basis of humanity.

No Republican member of Congress is being permitted into a detention camp.

I heard this on talk radio.

Oh, no! They're lying to listeners on talk radio! - sm

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One need only do a 3-second Google check to discover that Rush Limbaugh is telling listeners that "no Republican member of Congress is being permitted into a detention camp," which is a lie.

This is why this drivel you hear on these type shows is called fear and smear.

How dare we try to educate ourselves by - listening to talk radio,

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and not take our marching orders from the mainstream media and NYT.
Another straw man argument. - Not Surprised
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Quoting: "How dare we try to educate ourselves by listening to talk radio, and not take our marching orders from the mainstream media and NYT."

Another straw man argument. Nobody actually suggested that, and you should know that liberals absolutely love the idea of conservatives educating themselves. LOL. We just disagree that Rush Limbaugh type of talk radio is a means to that end. (see link) "Marching orders?" It couldn't just be people reporting news; it has to be characterized as "marching orders." Such a dramatic name for news. Maybe "marching orders" is something conservatives are getting from their "news" sources and making a huge assumption that liberals view news as marching orders too? Who knows? I won't presume that is true or make a straw man argument to that effect.

The straw man argument seems to be a favorite of the conservative types such as Rush Limbaugh, where he will create some ridiculous version of "what they're doing here is..." or "what they're saying here is..." or "what they really mean by this is...," and then Rush and his callers will spend hours being outraged and speculate about the "scary" government and things that never happened, nobody actually ever did or actually ever said (the straw man).

Liberals refer to this as "fear and smear," while conservatives call it "education."
Fear and smear? I just want to know the - truth. NM
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NM
You won't find the truth from MSM. - sm
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You'll only learn spoonfed drivel and more radical leftwing extremist propaganda from them, and only AFTER the talking points are put out by the WH.
I find that most people who make fun of conservative talk - radio have never listened to it,
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so make fun all you want. It doesn't bother me.
Yet another straw man argument. - Proves the point actually
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What part of that post was making fun?

Much like Rush Limbaugh would do, you're actually proving the point of the poster with a straw man argument. No one actually "made fun of it" as you state here. They merely pointed out that Rush and some conservatives have a tendency to mischaracterize things and then report a straw man argument, which is exactly what he does and you just did with this post.
I think your little straw man is sleepy. - sm
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Do you have anything fresh or original with which to make your point? No, I didn't think so. It's just empty talk for the sake of talking. Proceed, guv.
It's your straw man. - sm
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If you really think the straw man is sleepy, perhaps you should put him to rest. There's really no need to mischaracterize what others post.

Quoting: "Do you have anything fresh or original with which to make your point? No, I didn't think so."

Oh, good. Let's forget the straw man argument and resort to asking questions and answering them ourselves. I'll play: Do you think something has to be "fresh and original" in order to be a valid point? Yes, I thought so. That's why conservatives enjoy Rush Limbaugh so much. He has such a fresh and original spin on the actual truth. It's just empty talk for the sake of talking.
You keep bringing him up. - LOL
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LOL
Most conservative talk radio is filth. It's about - hatred, bigotry, and religious dogma.
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Makes my stomach churn to listen to it, so I don't.

I guess Senator McCain, several Republican representatives - and pastors who were not welcome

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didn't get that message. But SJL and Nancy Pelosi did.

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