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The Rage Is Not About Health Care


Posted: Mar 29, 2010

Published: March 27, 2010
THERE were times when last Sunday’s great G.O.P. health care implosion threatened to bring the thrill back to reality television. On ABC’s “This Week,” a frothing and filibustering Karl Rove all but lost it in a debate with the Obama strategist David Plouffe. A few hours later, the perennially copper-faced Republican leader John Boehner revved up his “Hell no, you can’t!” incantation in the House chamber — instant fodder for a new viral video remixing his rap with will.i.am’s “Yes, we can!” classic from the campaign. Boehner, having previously likened the health care bill to Armageddon, was now so apoplectic you had to wonder if he had just discovered one of its more obscure revenue-generating provisions, a tax on indoor tanning salons.

But the laughs evaporated soon enough. There’s nothing entertaining about watching goons hurl venomous slurs at congressmen like the civil rights hero John Lewis and the openly gay Barney Frank. And as the week dragged on, and reports of death threats and vandalism stretched from Arizona to Kansas to upstate New York, the F.B.I. and the local police had to get into the act to protect members of Congress and their families.

How curious that a mob fond of likening President Obama to Hitler knows so little about history that it doesn’t recognize its own small-scale mimicry of Kristallnacht. The weapon of choice for vigilante violence at Congressional offices has been a brick hurled through a window. So far.

No less curious is how disproportionate this red-hot anger is to its proximate cause. The historic Obama-Pelosi health care victory is a big deal, all right, so much so it doesn’t need Joe Biden’s adjective to hype it. But the bill does not erect a huge New Deal-Great Society-style government program. In lieu of a public option, it delivers 32 million newly insured Americans to private insurers. As no less a conservative authority than The Wall Street Journal editorial page observed last week, the bill’s prototype is the health care legislation Mitt Romney signed into law in Massachusetts. It contains what used to be considered Republican ideas.

THERE were times when last Sunday’s great G.O.P. health care implosion threatened to bring the thrill back to reality television. On ABC’s “This Week,” a frothing and filibustering Karl Rove all but lost it in a debate with the Obama strategist David Plouffe. A few hours later, the perennially copper-faced Republican leader John Boehner revved up his “Hell no, you can’t!” incantation in the House chamber — instant fodder for a new viral video remixing his rap with will.i.am’s “Yes, we can!” classic from the campaign. Boehner, having previously likened the health care bill to Armageddon, was now so apoplectic you had to wonder if he had just discovered one of its more obscure revenue-generating provisions, a tax on indoor tanning salons.

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But the laughs evaporated soon enough. There’s nothing entertaining about watching goons hurl venomous slurs at congressmen like the civil rights hero John Lewis and the openly gay Barney Frank. And as the week dragged on, and reports of death threats and vandalism stretched from Arizona to Kansas to upstate New York, the F.B.I. and the local police had to get into the act to protect members of Congress and their families.

How curious that a mob fond of likening President Obama to Hitler knows so little about history that it doesn’t recognize its own small-scale mimicry of Kristallnacht. The weapon of choice for vigilante violence at Congressional offices has been a brick hurled through a window. So far.

No less curious is how disproportionate this red-hot anger is to its proximate cause. The historic Obama-Pelosi health care victory is a big deal, all right, so much so it doesn’t need Joe Biden’s adjective to hype it. But the bill does not erect a huge New Deal-Great Society-style government program. In lieu of a public option, it delivers 32 million newly insured Americans to private insurers. As no less a conservative authority than The Wall Street Journal editorial page observed last week, the bill’s prototype is the health care legislation Mitt Romney signed into law in Massachusetts. It contains what used to be considered Republican ideas.

Yet it’s this bill that inspired G.O.P. congressmen on the House floor to egg on disruptive protesters even as they were being evicted from the gallery by the Capitol Police last Sunday. It’s this bill that prompted a congressman to shout “baby killer” at Bart Stupak, a staunch anti-abortion Democrat. It’s this bill that drove a demonstrator to spit on Emanuel Cleaver, a black representative from Missouri. And it’s this “middle-of-the-road” bill, as Obama accurately calls it, that has incited an unglued firestorm of homicidal rhetoric, from “Kill the bill!” to Sarah Palin’s cry for her followers to “reload.” At least four of the House members hit with death threats or vandalism are among the 20 political targets Palin marks with rifle crosshairs on a map on her Facebook page.

The remainder of the article can be found at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/opinion/28rich.html?hp

 

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Goodness, still pushing that meme even when it's been debunked? - Anon

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Cleaver was not spat upon...did you NOT see the video? Lewis' office even came right out and said they never heard the N-word 15 times like they claimed (I'm sorry, isn't that lying?), and the congressman did not yell "Baby killer" at Stupak...he yelled "It's a baby killer," which in many people's minds it is.

Frank Rich is not credible and neither is the democrat party that keeps pushing this blather.

No amount of spin is going to make cons disgraceful behavior - go away. After all, this is the way

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they have been behaving ever since the sore losers conceded their 7% margin landslide rebuke in 2008. They are what they are. Bankrupt thugs, full of hate, sour grapes cultivars, unable to even control their own party, void of creativity, fresh out of goals, ideas, strategies or solutions, invisible leadership, on the road to nowhere.

When all they do is preach hate and deceit, obstruct progress and make complete jerks out of themselves, they reach that point of no return, where public perceptions about them become foregone conclusions, ensconced in the national consciousness, irreversibly and irrefutably predictable.

The hate mongerging has come home to roost. The cons have no one to blame but themselves for the credibility they have earned of being a spiteful, ugly, undesirable force of inertia that barely resembles the original party which used to represent half the nation. Yet they cluelessly persist in their self-destructive obstructive maneuvers that do nothing more than reinforce their image of being the party of thanks, but no thanks.

Here's hoping they enjoy the fruits of their labors.

You seem to have some anger management issues here, and it's kinda scary: - See here -

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In your diatribe, you described conservatives as:

"...Bankrupt thugs, full of hate, sour grapes cultivars, unable to even control their own party, void of creativity, fresh out of goals, ideas, strategies or solutions, invisible leadership, on the road to nowhere."

"[They] preach hate and deceit, obstruct progress and make complete jerks out of themselves. "

"[They]....are a spiteful, ugly, undesirable force of inertia that barely resembles the original party which used to represent half the nation."

It's really not healthy to walk around with this much disgust for people who simply have a different opinion than you do, especially when we're talking about at least 36% of the country.

Your side is finally getting everything you ever wanted, and yet you seem miserable. How ironic.
I see no anger in her post - Just Facts
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Seriously? Did you see what she wrote about fellow Americans.... - 8^0
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who just happen to be conservatives?

And you see nothing wrong with it?

Is this really the hope and change you wanted for this country?
So you don't have any problem with slurs on here towards liberals (also fellow Americans), - NON-Anon
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but now you're righteously indignant about turn-about? Just more typical repug hypocrisy . . . .
Here, here NON-Anon! Love the moniker btw - Great choice!
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It has NOT been debunked at all. They just desperately do not WANT to believe it. Cons have been behaving horribly, especially in the last couple of weeks, and that, unfortunately for them is what will be remembered. That, and the fact that it was over FINALLY passing health care reform to help the people of this country.
Repug? Why, that's brilliant! Almost as good as Dumbocrat... - Anon
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lol
Personally, I think "Regressive" says it better - ASmom
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Progressives want to move the country forward, regressives want us to move backwards. Sounds about right.
"Regressives" - I love it, hope you don't mind if I steal that term from you - NON-Anon
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So fitting -- if they had their way, we would go back to having slaves, sending women back to the kitchen barefoot and pregnant, and rich white men running everything! LOL
Go for it-maybe we start our own talking point - term that we can use
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constantly. It sure describes the mind-set, doesn't it?? LOL!
I think you might be on to something!! - NON-Anon
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It is by far the best descriptive term I've heard yet to perfectly describe their mindset!
Where do you want to move it, then? How far to the left is enough for you guys? - Anon
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Enough so we don't recognize it anymore? Like Sweden?

And if that's such a good idea, then why didn't Zero run on that platform? You know, come out in the beginning in 2008 and told everyone he was going to make America into a socialist country?

Maybe because he never would have been elected? Because most of the country would never have gone along with it and he knew it?

In which case the liberal playbook says its okay to trick the electorate into voting you into power, at which time you can begin to "fundamentally change America" into a socialist country.

And you expect all the rest of us to just go right along with that?

Are you guys out of your freaking minds?

Rhetorical, I know...but America will never go where you misguided hippie freaks want it to.

The fact is that socialism has never worked in any country in which it's been tried. Well, except for a little country like Sweden...which is hardly a superpower like us.

Unless the plan is to bring America down to everybody else's level....to basically destroy our country.

If so, then it confirms my belief that progressives are despicable.
And you just confirmed my belief that rabid conservatives of your ilk - NON-Anon
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are what is dividing and destroying this country. This nation has an educational system that is inferior to many other countries, even some "little countries" like Sweden. I wonder why that is? You are a prime example of how inferior education can bring a nation down. I, for one, would like to progress and keep up with the modern world. Maybe you should just go somewhere and live in a cave like your ancestors -- you know -- the ones that did not evolve and then went extinct?

With a Presidential tracking poll of 44% strongly disapproving -16 approval index (sm) - anon

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64% strongly disapproving of a Democratic-controlled Congress, I would think that you would think twice about pointing fingers and placing blame. However, I feel this about BOTH sides because one is just as guilty as the other about the lies, broken promises, etc. It is time for BOTH sides to stand up and accept responsibility for the problems in this country rather than getting on television, internet, newspapers, etc., and calling names and throwing accusations like children. It is sickening!!!
Cite references if you can - Doubt it!
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Seriously, do your own research, Google Presidential polls, congressional polls (sm) - anon
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And all of the information is right there. Pelosi with an 11% approval rating and last I saw Reid with either a 6 or 8% approval rating.
Just as I suspected - Can not cite references that do not exist
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Right...

Ditto - sm

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More Thoughts On Liberal Political Violence

Share Post PrintMarch 27, 2010 Posted by John at 7:23 PM

The Democrats have tried to change the subject away from their health care debacle by claiming that conservatives are threatening violence against them. Their complaints are pathetic where they are not out-and-out lies (e.g., Clyburn and Lewis), and they have taken a lot of well-deserved criticism. It is liberals, not conservatives, who rely on ad hominem attacks, outrageous allegations and violent imagery. We talked about this on our radio show today, and several callers reminded us of a particularly sorry episode of liberal violence that, for some reason, has not gotten much attention: the 2008 Republican convention in St. Paul.

I attended the convention and remember the terrorist acts that were carried out by anti-Republican protesters very well. They threw bricks through the windows of buses, sending elderly convention delegates to the hospital. They dropped bags of sand off highway overpasses onto vehicles below. Fortunately, no one was killed.

These were anti-Bush and anti-Republican protesters. Is it a stretch to think that some of them, at least, may have been inspired by over-the-top, hateful attacks on the Bush administration by Democratic Congressmen, DNC Chairman Howard Dean, Michael Moore, who was a guest of honor at the Democrats' own convention, various show business personalities, and many other leading liberal figures? I don't think so. We haven't seen that sort of hate campaign since the Democrats went after Abraham Lincoln. It seems unlikely that none of the "protesters" who tried to commit murder were inspired by those liberal voices.

Yet, hardly anyone seems to be aware of the violence that took place in 2008. At most, the story was treated with a ho-hum attitude in the press. For some reason, political violence was not a concern less than two years ago. Yet today, we can hardly imagine what would happen if a group of tea partiers were to drop sandbags off a highway overpass, trying to kill motorists below. Liberal reporters' heads would explode. But this is exactly what anti-Republican Party protesters did in 2008, and no one cared. To my knowledge, not a single Democratic politician condemned this anti-Republican violence or attempted in any way to distance the Democratic Party from it.

Keep that in mind next time you hear a Democrat whining about the Republican effort to "fire Nancy Pelosi."

PS: You are right, the hate-mongering has come home to roost and you libs own it!!!!!!

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