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Dozens Walk Past Dying Hero Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax On New York Sidewalk (VIDEO)


Posted: Apr 25, 2010

A truly sad statement on our society today . . . this man was a homeless immigrant, no less.   Since we know how many people (especially those that comment regularly on here) have a huge resentment toward the homeless and immigrants, guess a lot of the very people on this forum would have walked on by . . . so much for compassion

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/24/hugo-alfredo-tale-yax-doz_n_550854.html

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Your snarky remarks were totally uncalled for.

I guarantee you and I speak for many of us on this board, this man would not have been ignored, regardless of whether he was homeless, an immigrant or both. I am a Christian first and foremost, and a true believer in helping people out. Compassion is in our blood.

You also seem to forget a lot of us MTs are trained as first responders, and do not give it a second thought when it comes to helping out a fellow man, woman or child. That is also in our blood.

E-hem .. guess you missed where I said "a lot" of people on this forum - Really?

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I can back that up with countless complaints by those same people who do nothing but complain about the homeless with their hand out, and also about the immigrants, so I'm sorry you took personal offense, but unless you are part of that group mentioned, really, you shouldn't get so up in arms. You call it snarky; I call it accurate. I posted this article to maybe prove a point to some of those people. Good for you that you are a Christian first and would never turn a blind eye to anyone in need . . . unfortunately, I do not get that impression from "a lot" of self-professed Christians on here.

You have no right to assume, judge or categorize like that.nm - Dallas

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Why not? You guys do it on a daily basis! - YOU have no right to
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criticize for categorizing people, and certainly not for passing judgment! You guys have it down to an art form!!! Why not look in a mirror before you criticize others for you are guilty of!
There you go again.nm - Dallas
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No defense, I see. No surprise there. Did - you actually go look in
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a mirror and acknowledge the truth in the statement? It would be nice but I doubt it.
Your statements are those that sound like a very bitter - sad person..... NM
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very true - sssdt
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There is a constant stream of right-biased judgment on this site. Constant accusations of "libs" being stupid, heartless, wanting people dead, brainwashed, blackmailed, etc. Anyone who says that's not true is in denial.

Afraid I have to agree. Wish I didn't but that - is the way many

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on here come off-totally judgmental of anyone needing help, assuming it is always their fault, and lacking in compassion. I used to hang back on this forum and not comment, but I have seen too much here displaying exactly this. Not all, but certainly many, or at least the most outspoken, quick to judge people.

You don't read those posts very well, do you? - Shame on you! NM

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Wow sweetie...religion really gets your hackles up doesn't it? - mtor

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Guess I'll just have to pray for your soul!

A truly sad statement is the arrogance and assumptions posted here - You have no idea

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Speak for yourself. Maybe you wouldn't help this homeless dying man, but there are a lot of caring and compassionate people that post on this board and it has nothing to do with political affiliation. We are in the medical profession and we have compassion for other people. We also can remain calm in extreme situations and with a clear head know just what to do in an emergency. Also, pretty much everyone here owns a cell phone and would call 911 and then sit and hold the gentleman's hand until help arrived giving comfort to an injured person.

Your comments show just how foolish it is to assume. You can't back anything up because you assume to know what people would do in a real life situation, and why? Because of messages that are posted here. GIVE ME A BREAK! Just because someone posts a message on this board that you may not like or agree with, to assume that they wouldn't help an injured or homeless or immigrant or starving or anything person is just that...an assumption. I don't agree with a lot of people on this board, but I can guarantee you this. Everyone who posts on this board would have helped that man. I did it in Las Vegas when there was a gentleman down on the sidewalk. Yeah, he may have been a drunk, but he deserved that 911 call.

The poster above was correct. Your comments are snarky. They are also condescending. As far as being a Christian they are not the only people who help others (no offense to the Christian who wrote that because I know that's not what you meant), but I do not consider myself a christian but if I see someone in need and lying in the street I'll pull out my cell and call 911. As far as I am concerned nobody on this board falls into your category that you seem to know so much about. Except for you probably.

Posting the video would have sufficed. Adding such comments as you did was not necessary. Sheesh! Talk about compassion.

Sorry sweetie, I live in reality, and the reality is this: - Really?

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There are many on here (not EVERY one), but a few, who would have walked right on by this gentleman without a second glance. I draw this conclusion based on some of the hateful remarks posted on here that are totally devoid of any kind of compassion. You are also quite presumptive to think that because someone is in the medical field, they are automatically full of compassion.

As has been stated on here previously, unless that shoe fits you, no need to be so defensive. If you can't read some of these hateful posts on here and come to the same conclusion, well then, you're either blind or you condone this kind of behavior. I have to conclude by your response that this hit way too close to home for you. Maybe you should reflect on why that is?

You do NOT know this. You are assuming - You have no idea

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You are basing what people would do in a real life situation because of what some of the people post here. You can NOT make those assumptions. What people do in their real life is a lot different that what some people write.

So what was your purpose of the post anyway...another way to insult people you don't agree with? Telling people they would just walk by an injured and dying man? Repeat...you do NOT know this, and to post that you do shows YOU do not live in reality.

So if your purpose was to start an insult post - mission accomplished. Hope that gave you a "thrill" to insult others. I've called 911 before in a situation when I've seen a person down on the ground and waiting for 911 to arrive while my husband I kept telling this guy he'd be okay and that help was on the way. So I don't fall into your so called "category" you seem to think you know so much about.

Hateful comments...yeah I've read them here. There are a lot of posters who post hateful and insulting comments, including you, and yes I have posted insulting comments too, but that does not mean I or others on this board would not stop to help an injured person.

There is a difference between being defensive and trying to point out that you do not know everyone on this board personally or what they would do in their real life. Since you like using the "defensive" word so much, people would not be defensive if you were not offensive. When I read that you assume to know what strangers would do in a real life situation, the fact needs to be pointed out that you do NOT know people on this board and you should not assume based on what people write here.

I'm sorry that you would not stop and help an injured person if he or she was down on the streets. Maybe your guilt is really eating at you, but I assure you that I and others would, and have, stopped and helped this man or anyone in the same situation he was in.

Your conclusions are wrong - go figure!

So I guess that was the purpose of your post, just to write a hateful post about how some people write hateful posts? Maybe you should reflect on that.

And..... - You have no idea

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You are certainly not living in reality. The reality is that no matter what political party you belong to or what race, gender, or whatever....Most people (with the exception of yourself) on this board would have stopped to help this man. So sorry to blow your theory, but that is reality. You should join us sometime - sweetie.
What's the difference between your assumption that every single - Really?
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person on here that ever posted hateful comments would stop and help a stranger in need, and my assumption that a lot of them would not? My reality is this: I have been in that helpless position before and witnessed that kind of indiffernce first-hand. Also, I, personally, have stopped traffic to remove a turtle from the middle of the road. I have performed more compassionate acts than you could ever imagine (and random acts of kindness). What exactly is your beef with me, anyway? Why taking it so personally?

Good for you that you think all people are angelic and full of good intentions -- pat yourself on the back! I stand by my opinion, and when I read some of the hateful comments on here, it only serves to confirm my opinion.

I suggest you move on. I will respect your opinion, and you should try to respect mine.
My beef is not with you personally but your comments - You have no idea
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Like I said in my previous post, you should have posted the link and that would have sufficed. You did not need to post the insulting and condescending remarks with it.

I am not taking the post in general personally - again another assumption. What I do take insult to is anyone who comes on this board whether it be you or others who start up a new thread just to insult people and make the insane connection that they know everyone who posts here personally and knows what everyone would do in an emergency situation just because of what they post on this board. Just to read such comments telling people here that they would let a man die in the streets - well that is just insulting to many who would not do that.

I have no beef with you. If you read my posts my beef is with the assumptions and comments directed towards people on this board. When you make statements that people here would not stop and help a dying and bleeding man as though you know this for fact, what that really shows is a reflection of your own self. Again, not you personally, just anyone who would make such a ridiculous statement shows what kind of person they are. What exactly is your beef with me? You don't like the fact that someone pointed out you are wrong? All I say is it's not very nice to come on this board and assume most everyone who posts here would let a man lie dying and bleeding in the street. Never said that I think all people are "angelic and full of good intentions", but I believe from reading posts on this board over the last year or so I've been coming here, no matter how much I disagree with a lot of posters here I don't believe any of them would watch a man dying and bleeding in the street and not do anything about it. And it doesn't matter whether a person is a democrat, republican, or another other political party. People in general are good people. Everyone who posts on this board does have a decent and humane bone in their bodies and would do the right thing. Why are you taking that so personally? You're the one who began the insults.

And I stand on my opinion - it's not nice to start up a new thread just so you can insult people sweetie. Not very nice.

And I suggest you move on. Anyone who makes condescending remarks and assumptions and instigates arguments telling people they are cruel and would not step in to call 911 or help an injured, bleeding, and dying person lost any respect they think they deserve.
The poster is right you know..a person's character is reflected - in the way they feel
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about things, and judging from some of the posts on this board, I would be surprised if the ones who posted such things would stop to spit on me if I were on fire.
That is so sad you feel that way - however - You have no idea (sm)
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I try and see the good in people. If I don't see the good I keep my mouth shut and I don't start a whole thread for the sole purpose to insult people.

I'm really sorry you feel that way about most people. I have seen the best of people in the worst of situations.

I used to argue with some people vehemently on this board, then when passing personal emails between each other find out that person is nothing like what they posted on this board.

I have faith (hate to use that word), but I do have faith that people will help others when they are lying on the street bleeding and dying, and it does not matter whether they are a democrat or republican. To think otherwise I think is just very very sad.

I just have not seen that no matter how much you disagree with a posters viewpoints on this board it does not mean that they wouldn't stop and pull out their cell phone and call 911 if I was lying on the street dying, or as you say spit on me if I was on fire. In a world of cell phones and people wanting their 5 minutes of fame, I have no doubt that even the worst of posters here would stop to help me. Even the OP who started this thread with her condescending comments about people. I think it's very sad that you don't think people would help you.
I agree. - Very sad
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Not sure why you would spend time defending and vouching for the character of every poster on this board though.
I didn't say I feel this way about most people - Maybe you
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need to repeat back to yourself what was actually said in the original post and my post. It seems you've taken it in your own direction for some reason. I don't think anyone believes that you know the character of everyone who posts on this board and can vouch for everyone's nature, and if you haven't seen posts that go far beyond any political viewpoint, then you should go back over the board.

Unless you are fighting a personal battle because you have made some posts which you consider questionable with regard to the subject matter, it doesn't make sense that you are defending so vigorously.

Political viewpoints (agree or disagree) are not in question.
And neither does anyone know the character of everyone who posts here - Maybe you should tell that to the OP
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To accuse posters on this board of their character when she does not know them then proclaim she can because of the posts that people post here.

Nobody knows the character of anyone on this board. You sound as preachy as the OP with your comments of fighting a personal battle. You don't know me, you don't know if I've ever assisted anyone in need or not. You don't know me or others.

Maybe you should be as preachy to the OP with your comments as she does not know the character of everyone on this board as she claims to.

Nobody knows anybody on this board, so don't start a thread accusing people here of being un-compassionate.
Why can't you understand? The OP did not say - everyone on this board
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and neither did I. Go back and read the posts. If you can just get that pesky little detail through your head, maybe you will be able to sleep tonight.
You might as well give it up .... - Really?
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these people want to interpret it to fit their own meaning, it doesn't really matter what the intention was. The fact of the matter is, when people can express feelings from their heart under the guise of anonymity, true character will always prevail . . . which possibly might suggest this is why some people are so up in arms about this post.

Someone also suggested this belonging on the Gab board -- I beg to differ -- this was meant as a sociopolitical commentary on the state of indifference that is rampant in this society, so yes, this is a political issue as it pertains to social commmentary. I believe this content to be a little heavy for the "Gab" board.

I've been accused of "assuming" things about people by people who are making similar assumptions about my post and its intentions, just because they "assume" they know what my political preference is. Go figure.

BTW, thank you and the others who were able to see my true intention here.
No problem. The only people who can not - seem to "get it" are
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those who do not want to. They are just here to react defensively and hopefully stir things up. I have not been responding to them lately, partly because I already have a good idea what their response will be (the response that allows for the most snarkiness with the biggest jump in "logic")and partly because I don't want to feed them anything. Not worth our time. They only have one response, and it is very rarely, if ever, a reasonable one.

As for you, just keep on keepin on. I enjoy your posts.
Yes she did - Here are her words - in quotes
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"Since we know how many people (especially those that comment regularly on here) have a huge resentment toward the homeless and immigrants, guess a lot of the very people on this forum would have walked on by . . . so much for compassion"

Whether she said 'all' or "a lot" or "many" or "some" or even if she said "one" is not what is the problem. It is coming to this board and accusing "anyone" of being without compassion when she does not personally know anyone here or what their character is. There are many here who would have stopped to help a dying man or a drunk man or anyone who is down on the streets. You are trying to lessen the severity of her accusations. She started a new thread on the political board to insult people.

And now the OP is trying to say that people are trying to interpret her posts to fit their meaning. Sorry the words "guess a lot of the very people on this forum would have walked on by" needs no interpretation. It is what it is. An insult. Read the words yourself. I copied and put in quotes EXACTLY what she said. Then she continues on with the attitude assuming that people who have spoke out against her insults are guilty of something. Again a HUGE assumption on her part because she does not know any of the people on this board and what their character is, or whether or not they have ever helped a person in trouble.

She should give the people on the gab board a little more credit. It is not too heavy. They are pretty smart people there and believe me, can handle the subject.

All I say is do not come on this board and start a new thread for the sole purpose of insulting people. Then when someone replies back that the OP guessed wrong and the remarks made by the OP were snarky and uncalled for and that "many" on the board would have helped this man in the street, the OP replied back with her statements were accurate and that she posted to "prove a point". Oh really? Just what point was that? That only certain political groups (the posts she keeps referring to that she has a difference of opinion with) are the ones who are uncaring and unsympathetic and would just watch a many die in the streets. Then she doesn't like people to tell her she has no right to judge others, and she didn't like that someone called her sweetie when she was the first to use it.

Each time she posted she never apologized for offending people, always claiming to know what everyone's character is on this board all based on what people post. No, she does not know what everyone's character is like and we don't need someone preachy who thinks they are angelic and the only person ever that would help a person (or turtles). She keeps insulting, judging and making assumptions about posters on this board and never once apologizing for accusing people of being unsympathetic, uncaring, and without compassion. I'll tell you one thing - I'm sure learning a lot about her character.
Um, nope, not working. It's very simple. The OP DID NOT say - everyone
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She said many, and it is true.

I have also noticed that the bulk (if not all) of the judgmental messages showing disdain for fellow human beings are authored by conservative posters.
Um, what part of my post don't you understand - I did not say everyone
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I even copied what she wrote and put it in quote.

I guess that was too hard to understand.
When you understand the original post and your post saying "yes she did" etc. - IF you EVER can
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understand, you will see how silly your argument is.
Don't you think your use of the word sweetie is also - condescending? NM
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It was used in the same context as hers was to prove a point - you dont get it -
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Look, you have someone coming on the board accusing posters of being un-compassionate when she does not know us in our personal lives and what kind of people we are. She based all of her assumptions on what people write on this board. There are many people who are very very different in real life than what they write on this board. This is a way for us to get our frustrations out about whatever the topic is. So she assumed and accused everyone (except of course excluding herself of having no compassion). I don't care how much I disagree with posters here. I don't come on and tell them all they have no compassion for a dying man bleeding in the streets. We all know this poster and her past posts, so we know exactly who she was accusing. When she in fact herself probably would have just walked by too. If she didn't want to make it political as she "claimed" she didn't then it should not have been posted on the political board. But she wanted it to be political accusing the other side of no compassion and wrote snarky comments to accompany it to get an argument going. She created the problem and then she cried wolf. She is the one who started calling people "sweetie" so if there is a beef maybe you should take it up with the instigator.

End of story here! (i.e. no more replies will be made)

Well...assuming has made an @ss out of you. - sm

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I think you are taking an unfortunate incident and turning it around to make others look bad. You have no idea of knowing if those people who walked past him were liberal or conservative, white, black, latino or if those people were God fearing or not. So to judge people on this board based on this horrible situation...is just flat out wrong on your part.

I don't recall any posts about homeless people but maybe I missed them. As to immigrants...I have no problem with immigrants as long as they come to our country legally and pay their share of taxes. We are all immigrants...that is unless you are full blood native american.

This is my last response to this thread, but you just don't get my point. - Really?

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First of all, where in my original post did I make any reference to political affiliation? Seems you made your own "ASSumptions" as to my intentions. I mentioned no names, pointed no fingers to any specific person, just expressed my opinion based on observation and personal experience, but yet you and the other poster attacked me. People post comments on here all the time for the intent purpose of antagonizing -- do you go after those people? Just last week someone posted link after link leading to bogus hateful videos making all sorts of horrible accusations about President Obama. Where were you then, oh indignant ones? And there have been plenty of crass comments on here about the poor (that would include the homeless)always having their hands out and expecting something for nothing. Where's your compassion then? But yet, the subject of the filthy-rich Wall Street crooks stealing from the people every day seems to be strangely quiet on here. Of course, there are a few that will take advantage of the system if they can, but I'll bet those same people are not living in luxury New York apartments and driving around in limos like those Wall Street thieves. Your indignation is sorely missplaced.

Another thing, I still stand by my opinion, and I feel I am right in my observations. I would like to think that no one would ever walk away from someone in need, but when I see the commentary that fills this board constantly, it doesn't lead me to any other conclusion. I make no apology, and if you took it personally, then I would say that maybe you need to do a little introspection about why that is.

Maybe U should have posted on the gab board then - But since you posted on the political board

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It seems you were making this political. What did this article have to do with politics? Probably should have been on the gab board since it didn't have anything to do with politics. Not all news stories are political. But it appears the intent of the post was to insult people on the political board. Telling us that we would not stop and help a bleeding and dying man in the streets when you don't know who we are or what we do in our personal lives. You base everything on posts that you don't agree with.

I'm not attacking you personally. You may very well be a very lovely person and if I knew you personally I would most likely get a different feeling and we could be friends as I have met and gotten to know a lot of people on this board and they are all lovely people whether or not I agree with them in politics, but your comments are appalling. Your post was judgmental of people and when people posted back that you have no right to judge them and that many people on this board would stop and help a dying man. They argued against your comments. If you can't handle the criticism of an obviously inflaming post telling people they are so inconsiderate that they would not help a dying man bleeding on the street, then I don't know what to tell you.

Your comments towards people on this board were inflaming and hurtful. There are a lot of good and descent people on this board and you insulted them without knowing what they are like in their personal lives.

When people replied to the insulting comments and they stated their opinion insult was returned to them calling them "sweetie" and other things. You repeated that people were taking your post personally and being defensive, and lectured people that they should just accept you telling them how uncaring and indecent they are towards a fellow human being all because of what someone posts on this board. If I had said that my mom would have told me that I was "pushing peoples buttons".

If people posts things I feel are wrong I will post a rebuttal and argue against them. I don't make it personal. I discuss issues, but when someone comes back patronizing and preachy to me, it's hard to keep it not personal when that person has just made it personal.

Now since you are bringing up past accusations against Obama and other issues it sound like this is payback for past posts.

Throughout all your posts I keep reading comments which is what turns people off. Calling them sweetie and "oh indignant ones". Telling everyone that if they take offense to you telling them they are without "compassion" and wouldn't help a dying bleeding man lying in the street that they somehow are suppose to feel guilty and need to reflect???

There's a big difference between the homeless standing in line waiting for their free handouts/free Obama Cash and a dying man laying in the street bleeding to death.

I will stand by my opinion. I think the majority of people are good at heart and would stop to help a dying man. That includes most everyone on this board (the "political" board).

My mom taught me when I was younger that if you are going to dish out criticism of people then I better learn to take it. That is what I instill in my kids too. They've grown up to be lovely people and don't criticize others for their beliefs. They treat other people with the same respect they want no matter what political, church, or any other affiliation they below to.

People need to learn to apologize gracefully when they insult the majority of the people on this board by categorizing them in the same group as the people who didn't help to stop this dying man. If that is how you truly feel sometimes it's better to keep those feelings to oneself. Unless of course there is a different purpose in mind.

Good posts. I've observed the same things you've observed. (nm) - Nikki

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Sorry Nikki that was not a good post - Heres why - anon

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I understand your compassion for this poster Nikki as I've been reading your posts for many many months. However, this poster began a whole thread all for the purpose to call people on this board she does not know un-compassionate and un-caring. She wanted to make it political, and since we all know her posts, we know what line she stands on with her political issues. She claims she didn't want to make this political, yet she did by posting here.

People wrote back a message that she has no right to judge them and she replies without compassion telling people that they need to "reflect" and not take it personally and called people "sweetie" in a condescending manner. She was preachy and condescending, and came off as though she was better than everyone and that we all don't have any compassion and would have walked past this guy who was bleeding in the street. I would not have and I know a lot of people on this board who would not have either. But even if we thought that, that is when you need to keep those type of comments to yourself.

We are human beings with compassion. We are living, breathing, and we have feelings. For someone who does not even know us comes on this board and tells us otherwise, you bet it's going to get the Irish up in us (well at least in me). How dare someone accuse me or anyone else of that. As my mother used to say there are things you need to keep to yourself.

Then when people came back and argued with the issues she presented she turned on the bucket of tears.

I'm sorry, but she started the whole thread with her accusations of people she does not even know. Yes there was one person who wrote what assuming has done to her, but the other posts are directed at the content of her message. Then she doesn't even have the decency to apologize to people saying that was not the intent of her post, no, she kept arguing on how she was right. Well you know what? She was not right. She was so dead-on wrong. People on this board would not have just walked by. I don't care what time of the day it is. If there is a man down on the street the decent thing to do is stop and call 911, and some of us have here. Maybe she does not think that calling 911 to help a drunk person lying in the street is as noble as her halting all traffic to save a turtle, but people here do have compassion and have stopped to helped injured people. And even if they don't - don't come here and accuse people of that. Keep your filthy self-serving comments to yourself. What she did was so un-called for. I don't care what people post on this board whether or not I agree with it. I would not start a new thread to tell people here how "un-compassionate" they are and then lecture them and be preachy and tell them they should just take it and "reflect" all because she "knows" what we are all like. Unless she's a psychic, sorry...no dice.

If she had apologized and said that is not what she meant that we took it wrong that would be one thing. But she lost all credibility as someone who is caring or compassionate with her disrespectful comments. I don't care what other people wrote back to her, most were discussing the content of her posts and that she was assuming (which she was), but her replies compounded the problem. She showed no remorse for what she accused people on this board of. She lost all respect. I will never read one of her posts again because now I know it doesn't come from someone who is level-headed.

I'm sorry, Nikki. I respect your opinions, always have, but the OP was so wrong in so many ways. She deserves no respect.
So, you are unable to separate yourself? If you are not one of the - "many" then
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don't worry about it. You're spending a lot of time and for all you know, you're defending at least one serial killer.
not, not everyone here has compassion - sssdt
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You said "We are human beings with compassion" and, no, not everyone here is. There are huge threads about how poor people who need health care don't deserve it because they just want free handouts. Threads about how black people have too many kids. Enormous threads about how the entire U.S. is going to be "taken away" from white folks, how immigrants are all evil and lazy.

Based on what we've all read, the OP is completely right: SOME people on this board do NOT have any compassion.

It's curious that people on the right are so willing to jump on anything to prove liberals are horrible people. You're doing that here, too. You say OP should be deliberately disrespected, that she's a bad person, that she's not compassionate. Besides, I think it IS compassionate to point out that hatred of the poor and the immigrants is harmful.

And are you really so blind as to not see that you're doing to her exactly what you condemn her for doing?
Again - there is a difference between someone standing in line for their freebie - versus a man dying in the streets.
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You are comparing apples to oranges.

Even so, even if there were people who wouldn't help a dying man in the street there was no reason to start a post to tell people so. Mama always told me there are things better kept to yourself.

And reminds of the Benjamin Franklin saying: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
What a classic post! - ROFL
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The cons do it to themselves again. :)
You don't know the difference? Yours is the usual - clueless response..... NM
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ROFL! - HA HA HA !!!!
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any more?
Waste of time....you're no doubt talking to one of the - "stand in lines"....... NM
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You should really let that person ahead of you in line. - Sounds like
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she/he needs a little TLC.
Fantastic post and very eloquently written. (nm) - Nikki
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Smile

To "anon": I suppose you won't read this, and - Really?
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I really don't care if you never read any of my posts again. I'm not on here to make friends -- I make comments on here to express my opinion (which the last time I checked is legal), and not once did I ever attack anyone PERSONALLY like you have me, so who's the instigator here? Humm? I made a generalized statement that did not contain the words "everybody" or "all of you" or "everyone who is conservative" or "Christian", or "is a Tea Party member" or "republican" or "hates cats" . . . get my drift? In my personal opinion, I don't in general have a lot of confidence in most humanity. Don't take it personally. Get off your high horse and accept the fact that I did not in any way attack anyone personally. As far as the "sweetie" reference: First of all, I was not the one that used that term first in this thread -- someone named "mtor" did. Secondly, I used it in response to the tone that was used toward me first. I never even made any reference about "Christian", so I have no idea whose left field that came from. Did I get on here and rant and rave about someone saying that "liberalism is a mental disorder?" NO!! Did you attack that person? NO!! So you see how one-sided your weak argument is? Your attack on me proves one thing to me: It was personal, so for whatever reason you just don't like me. Do I care? NO! So just say you have a personal imaginary grudge against me then, or as the saying from "Zombieland" goes, "nut up or shut up."

Now you get on here and play your silly childish game of "don't play with the mean girl anymore" with Nikki and others. All I can say is, wow . . . I seriously don't think I have encountered that since grade school.

Finally, I have been asked to apologize for my opinion. Guess what? I'm not going to apologize for my viewpoint any more than anyone else on here would.

And one more thing, if I'm going to turn on my "bucket of tears", then I will do it for you, because it is so apparent that you want nothing but to fight with me and I find that sad.

For Nikki and the others who actually got the point, thank you for seeing my intention for what is really is.

I think you're 100% right, but I do think you should just 'fess up that you meant rightwin - sssdt

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The rightwingers on this site ARE always bashing immigrants, the poor, people of color, etc. You didn't lie.

You tell em! Great response! And you are - right about the hateful

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responses-that is exactly what I was observing here as well. Unfortunately, it is more commonplace here than I would like to admit. You are right also about not responding. If you ignore the performance, then maybe they will stop "performing" in such a childish and defensive way.

A hateful post started this whole thread - nuff said.

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Telling people on this board they would not have stopped to help. Then when called upon her remarks and that she had no right to judge others and make accusations about other people that she doesn't even know them so how would she even know if someone would have stopped we got the crocdile tears and the continuation of the hateful remarks, showing no remorse that she insulted a lot of people on this board.

The poster was right that said just putting the link up would have been enough. She didn't need to add in how a lot of people on this board would not have stopped to help this dying man, especially when she does not know everyone on this board, or a lot or however many she is proclaiming would not have stopped. It was quite rude that she insinuated people on this board would not have the decency to stop and help him.

In a world so wrong I and others around me try to see the good in people. We also don't start arguments and cry wolf if we are told that we started it.

you are not being truthful...... - sm

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I saw those videos and read the posts I suppose you are referring to. The post said NOTHING about not giving help to the homeless...ever! It was referring to the welfare state this country has become. How "assistance" has turned into cradle to grave handouts and how Obama is just going to make that much worse than it already is. Poster said nothing about it being wrong to help the homeless. Seems you have taken posts and made them your own tales to tell.

AND, it said NOTHING about disliking immigrants. If you are talking about "illegal" immigrants, then what's the problem? Illegal immigrants are AGAINST THE LAW!

You need to tell the truth.....

In defence of the people who walked by doing nothing... - see inside

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not because they have no compassion, but...read below:

Excerpt from a YahooNews report regarding this incident:

".....In the urban environment, it's not unusual to see people on the street, sleeping or under the influence of drugs or alcohol."

This all happened at 6:00 a.m. and it was still dark.

Maybe people didn't see the blood pooling under the man.
I was 6:00 a.m., still dark, people were hurrying to their job.

This was most probably the reason that several people passed by, not taking any action.

This man was stabbed to death by a man because he came to the defence of a woman who was in a fight with a man she knew. Both individuals escaped, the man after stabbing the "rescuer" to death.

That's what you get when you come to the "rescue" of another person.

No wonder that many people are afraid to take ANY action and mind their own business, one never knows what one gets into.
BTW, Jamaica, NY, is a dangerous neighborhood.
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I posted the same on the Gab Board.




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