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Congratulations to all military personnel. You get to (sm)

Posted: Nov 21, 2013

deploy to Afghanistan through 2024!! Great news, huh? Could this be another promise broken by the Great One?

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Disgusted... - waitingforjack

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One son just returned from his second tour, another son is there on his third tour. Funny thing, when pull out of troops by 2014 was a campaign promise, younger son told me no way will that happen! Karzai says he doesn't trust us and Kerry says Weeeeee, let's stay for ten more years. KERRY! Mr. I-hate-my-country-let-me-give-my-medals-back... Pffffft...

Kerry hates this country, too? - sm

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Is this really the stuff of political discourse? That those who see things differently hate this country? Pffft indeed.

John Kerry, the "soldier" - waitingforjack

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It's history - I didn't make it up.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=john+kerry+returns+medal&FORM=VIRE8#view=detail&mid=459B9E700E590EC83894459B9E700E590EC83894

and where did he say he hated America? - nm

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Obviously you care nothing about promises made nor (sm) - Abby

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do you have a loved one in the military.

and...where did he say he hated America? - sm

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by the way, I have a looong lineage of family members in the military. So please, save your assumptions and your snark about promises for someone more easily led than I.

It's really unimportant to me how you interpret snark (sm) - Abby

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Obama did promise to get us out of Afghanhistan. Can you refute that?

http://general.mtstars.com/368814.html - Done. nm

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well done - thanks

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What's well done about it? I can't see a thing. - nm

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nm

it's a link to a post that answers the question - nm

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I said there is nothing there. - nm

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nm

(!) I said it's a link - here it is...sm

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http://general.mtstars.com/368814.html

Here. May this will help. - sm

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Not combat troops, not until 2024, DRAFT agreement not even - approved yet

Posted: Nov 21st, 2013 - 2:09 pm In Reply to: Congratulations to all military personnel. You get to (sm) - Abby

by the Afghan council, meaning terms of the final agreement are yet to be determined. This PROPOSED presence would be counter-terrorism and security training joint contingencies numbering between 8000 and 12,000, comprised essentially of 66% Americans and 33% NATO....a much smaller number than military commanders have recommended. Final numbers have not been established.

They would be subjected to very narrow parameters of authorized activities. As it stands now, only US Special Ops forces would be authorized to conduct any actual anti-terrorism raids and it is unclear if this provision will survive scrutiny of the council. $4 billion in annual international security aid is heavily contingent upon some limited presence of these US and NATO troops.

All security operations will be carried out by Afghan forces with US in a "support" role. According to senior administration officials, there is "NO scenario" where these troops will stay until "anywhere near" 2024.

Congratulations on that overblown bogus "broken promise" claim.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/world/asia/afghan-pact-kerry-apology-.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0

yes, I can refute that - sm

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In answer to your question: Yes. I can refute that.

It is time to turn the page. When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing the capabilities and partnerships we need to take out the terrorists and the worldâ��s most deadly weapons; engaging the world to dry up support for terror and extremism; restoring our values; and securing a more resilient homeland.

The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I'm trying, but link won't post. It's a YT video of (sm) - will keep trying

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Obama saying, the first thing he will do as President is bring the troops home, then, "You can take that to the bank." Liar. When I try to post the link, MTS keeps saying, no http address. It's there, so I'm not understanding, but I will try again.

I've seen the video - sm

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There is no mention of Afghanistan. None. You really have to look at these things carefully. The president was, in fact, discussing Iraq.

Videos like these are propaganda. They are posted to take advantage of the weak and impressionable.

Check the title of the video - it is bring troops home from - Afghanistan. Not Iraq

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nm

No. The title of the video I posted is: Obama To End The War - sm

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If you have another link, please share it. Meanwhile, it should be noted that the titles on youtube videos are supplied by the poster - they are not, in and of themselves, factual.

Then I will assume yours is not factual either. - Thanks for pointing that out.

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nm

of course I pointed it out - and you don't have to assume anything - sm

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all you have to do is watch or read something and confine your judgments to the facts - not what others tell you the facts are.

Video Title: Obama Promise to End - the IRAQ WAR

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We already took that to the bank. Context matters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VlXfs1K04g

thank you - absolutely correct

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So does everyone who protested the Vietnam - war hate America?

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That would be a lot of people who hate America, I think.

Go ahead... - waitingforjack

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Drink that Koolaid. Althought to remain historically correct, the poor souls at Jonestown actually drank Flavorade.

where did Kerry say he hated America - waiting and still waiting for jack

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That was then. This is now. - nm

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nm

His 42 years of service to his country includes - 12 years in the military

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It takes a lot of nerve for anyone to question his loyalty to and love for his country. Disgusted is too kind of a word for this kind of repulsive partisan rancor.

Not combat troops, not until 2024, DRAFT agreement not even - approved yet

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by the Afghan council, meaning terms of the final agreement are yet to be determined. This PROPOSED presence would be counter-terrorism and security training joint contingencies numbering between 8000 and 12,000, comprised essentially of 66% Americans and 33% NATO....a much smaller number than military commanders have recommended. Final numbers have not been established.

They would be subjected to very narrow parameters of authorized activities. As it stands now, only US Special Ops forces would be authorized to conduct any actual anti-terrorism raids and it is unclear if this provision will survive scrutiny of the council. $4 billion in annual international security aid is heavily contingent upon some limited presence of these US and NATO troops.

All security operations will be carried out by Afghan forces with US in a "support" role. According to senior administration officials, there is "NO scenario" where these troops will stay until "anywhere near" 2024.

Congratulations on that overblown bogus "broken promise" claim.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/world/asia/afghan-pact-kerry-apology-.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0

Thank you. BTW, I know how to click a link but there - was nothing on the other for me.

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nm

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