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Clinton Speaks About Defense of Child Rapist


Posted: Apr 13, 2015

Hillary Clinton weighed in on her 1975 legal defense of an accused child rapist on Saturday, her first comments on the case since it came under scrutiny following a Washington Free Beacon report last month.

Clinton spoke in clinical, legal terms while explaining her defense of the rapist, who Clinton helped to avoid a lengthy prison term by relying on a technicality relating to the chain of evidence of his blood-soaked underwear, as well as arguing at the time that the 12-year-old victim may have exaggerated or encouraged the attack.

“When you are a lawyer, you often don’t have the choice as to who you will represent, and by the very nature of criminal law there will be those who you represent that you don’t approve of,” said Clinton in an interview published on Friday with Mumsnet, an online forum for parents in the UK.

“But at least in our system you have an obligation, and once I was appointed I fulfilled that obligation,” she added.

The Free Beacon reported in June on previously unpublished audio tapes from the 1980s that revealed Clinton laughing while discussing her successful effort to secure a plea bargain for her client and suggesting she believed the 41-year-old man was guilty of rape.

“I had him take a polygraph, which he passed—which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs,” said Clinton, laughing.

The audio recordings are part of a collection of interviews with the Clintons conducted by Arkansas reporter Roy Reed in the 1980s, which are housed at the University of Arkansas special collections library. They were opened to the public in January.

Clinton’s defense strategy also included aggressive claims about the victim’s character, including allegations that the 12-year-old “sought out older men” and was “emotionally unstable,” according to court documents first reported by Newsday in 2008.

Clinton told Mumsnet on Friday that she was appointed to the case and petitioned the judge to remove her, but her request was denied.

“I asked to be relieved of that responsibility but I was not and I had a professional duty to represent my client to the best of my ability, which I did,” said Clinton.

The response appears to be at odds with Clinton’s comments to Reed in the 1980s. She told Reed in the recordings that the local prosecutor, Mahlon Gibson, asked her to take the on case as a personal favor.

“The prosecutor called me a few years ago, he said he had a guy who had been accused of rape, and the guy wanted a woman lawyer,” said Clinton. “Would I do it as a favor to him?”

However, Gibson, who did not respond to earlier inquiries by the Free Beacon, told a different story to CNN. He said Clinton was appointed by the judge and did not want to take the client.

According to Gibson, Clinton called him after the appointment and asked him to help get her out of the case.

The question of why and how Clinton ended up serving as the attorney for accused child rapist Thomas Alfred Taylor in 1975 is still murky.

At the time, Clinton was running a newly formed legal aid clinic at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, which provided legal services to clients who could not afford to pay.

Taylor’s case was initially assigned to the local public defender, but, according to several accounts, Taylor insisted he wanted a female attorney instead.

Taylor “started screaming for a woman attorney,” Gibson told CNN in a June 25 interview.

However, in another June 25 interview with Talk Business & Politics, Gibson said he did not know why the public defender was replaced.

“The public defender was appointed to represent him and for some reason the public defender, I guess, wanted off or couldn’t handle it, I don’t know what the problem was there,” said Gibson.

Clinton offered yet another variation of the events leading to her taking the case in her autobiography Living History, saying the judge appointed her to the case after Gibson recommended her.

“One day the Washington County prosecuting attorney, Mahlon Gibson, called to tell me an indigent prisoner accused of raping a 12-year-old girl wanted a woman lawyer,” wrote Clinton. “Gibson had recommended that the criminal court judge, Maupin Cummings, appoint me.”

She wrote that she “didn’t feel comfortable” taking the client, but Gibson told her she could not refuse a request from the judge. Clinton had, until this weekend, never previously suggested that she actively sought to be removed as counsel.

Gibson said he had never spoken to Clinton prior to that 1975 phone call, and has not spoken to her since.

“I’ve had one conversation in my life with Hillary Clinton that I can remember, and I think that’s the only one I ever had really,” Gibson told Talk Business & Politics.

Clinton ran the local legal aid clinic in Gibson’s district from 1974 until 1977, according to biographical accounts.

Gibson did not return the Free Beacon’s requests for comment prior to publication of the “Hillary Tapes” story.

Clinton told Reed in the 1980s that she was able to strike a favorable plea agreement for her client after the prosecution lost crucial DNA evidence that linked Taylor to the crime.

Taylor was sentenced to one year in jail, with two months off for time served. He had been facing 30 years to life in prison for first-degree rape.

The University of Arkansas barred the Free Beacon from conducting research at its special collections archives after the “Hillary Tapes” story was published in June, arguing that the news outlet broke library policy by failing to get permission to publish.

Library dean Carolyn Henderson Allen, a Hillary Clinton donor, demanded in a June 17 letter that the Free Beacon “cease and desist your ongoing violation of the intellectual property rights of the University of Arkansas with regard to your unauthorized publication of audio recordings obtained from the Roy Reed Collection.”

However, the library now says it does not hold the copyright for Roy Reed’s interviews.

Reed told NWA Online that he does not object to the Free Beacon publishing excerpts from the recordings.

“I don’t see anything wrong with that. I certainly don’t object to it,” Reed said last Thursday.

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Isn't that what all defense attorneys are supposed to do? - nana7

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On top of that I had no idea she was running a legal aid program for the poor. So in my opinion makes her look even better.

Maybe if the prosecutor would not have lost KEY evidence then maybe he would have been convicted of first degree rape.

Sounds to me she was doing her job. So sensationalist Pirro can suck on my big toe and keep her nasty mouth shut. Sorry that was part of another thread that got deleted.

And maybe if Pirro would have told the whole story, that the prosecutor lost key evidence everyone would have felt a little different. But Pirro showed her true colors, at least to me. Scum bag that she is.

I am so glad Hillary came out and told her side of the story. Makes me respect her a bit more.

Yeah - I wondered about that

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why was that thread deleted anyway?

Of course, but her remarks off camera are way out of line. - WAY OUT OF LINE.

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Wonder how Hildabeast would have felt if it were Chelsea? - throw her under the bus, too?

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Sit back and allow 2 men to brutally rape, beat, and place your daughter in a coma...and Hildabeast laughs about the guy getting 2 months and laughs bout the "miscarriage of justice". outcome. Not to mention her role in letting Americans perish in Benghazi and then lying about that.

Then erasing her server in direct violation of the law, and then lying about that.

Maybe if MSM was the brunt of Hildabeast brutality and lies, they would finally wake up, but I doubt it...too many left wing extremist nut jobs in MSM and they fit right in with Hildabeast.

Notice how she switches up the story, too? - Like Obama.

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She can't keep her lies straight.

That's the problem with telling lies.

If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember any lies.

Gee, ya think both BO and DQ went to the same school and church?

the prosecutor lost KEY evidence. So whose fault was it that he got 1 year? - nana7

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and I would suppose if it happened to Chelsea and the prosecutor lost evidence the same thing would happen.

Even the guilty are entitled to a good defense.

So just sounds to me no matter what she is wrong because he basically got off. He is not the first rapist that got off and will not be the last or murderer or robber or anything else. That is the way our system was built. What about all the rape cases that never get to trial because the rape kits were lost or don't have enough man power to test them so they sit for years and degrade. I bet those rape victim would be happy with a 1 year sentence.

In no way, shape or form am I condoning this scum bag from being punished for his crimes, but again no key evidence, no punishment.

Do you think that losing key evidence by the prosecutor have anything to do with him getting such a light setence? I think he is the one to blame for him not getting life in prison, which would fit that crime.

Funny how after the fact more and more facts come out to form a truer picture of exactly what happened.

All I can say is I am glad that article was written and Hillary spoke about it.

Hillary laughed about it! - sm

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Or should I say cackled about it.
she laughed about him passing the lie detector test - and how....
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she would never believe in them again. Not about the rape victim or the case.
Only wizards can interpret what she laughed about. - sm
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She's cold-hearted as proven by her Benghazi lies.
Agree with you 100%. She is cold-hearted - Wonder what Chris Steven thinks of her now
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ignoring all his requests for additional security and being denied.

Hildabeast care for no one but herself.

Yup, meant to mention that below as well. Apparently the GOP - Independent Thinker

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thinks we're idiots. I don't know about you, Nana7, but some posts/comments are an insult to reader intelligence.

In fact, if I were a GOP party member, I'd actually feel insulted that people from my own party thought I was that stupid/easily manipulated.

You obviously have no idea how our criminal justice system works...sm - Alice

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When you are a lawyer you serve at the pleasure of the court. Hillary in no way laughed about getting a plea agreement for a child rapist. In my opinion, she made a hah or snort of disbelief when talking about why she lost faith in lie detectors. This happened 40 years ago when she was a very young attorney and I am satisfied with her explanation and her handling of the case.

Amen Alice- nm - nana7

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Amen x2 - Independent Thinker

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Not a Hillary fan but also not an easily-manipulated idiot:)

Yeah..isn't laughing about a child rapist in the job descrfiption?? - (sigh, roll eyes)

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Some questions/things to point out about the "article", if I may? - Independent Thinker

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First of all, just a friendly reminder, though I didn't report this sensitive topic yesterday myself, it was removed - so we're already walking on thin ice by discussing it again;)

Regardless, I'd like to go on record again stating again that I personally find exploitation of a rape victim as a method of political gain/deterring possible Hillary voters just as morally reprehensible as the portrait being painted about Hillary.

Secondly, what is in question here is not the fact that she defended an alleged rapist, but whether she had an obligation to do so, and whether that obligation was personal favor owed or being court appointed to do so.

Thirdly, I found this portion the most telling:

"The University of Arkansas barred the Free Beacon from conducting research at its special collections archives after the “Hillary Tapes” story was published in June, arguing that the news outlet broke library policy by failing to get permission to publish."

I'm not sure what the problem with this one is. They DO need permission to publish information found in the special archives of collegiate institutions because it's often the work of university staff.

Do they even have the written consent/permission of the victim herself?

Then there's this:

"Library dean Carolyn Henderson Allen, a Hillary Clinton donor, demanded in a June 17 letter that the Free Beacon “cease and desist your ongoing violation of the intellectual property rights of the University of Arkansas with regard to your unauthorized publication of audio recordings obtained from the Roy Reed Collection.”

I see the red flag raised on this one, but here's the thing - I'd do the exact same thing as Ms. Henderson, and not because I'm a Hillary donor (as I've made it pretty clear below I'm not a huge fan), but because I'd be protecting victim rights in general, even if I HAD permission from the victim, because I wouldn't want to help set a precedent that this is okay to do to victims for the sake of political gain.

In fact, what IS the motivation "Free Beacon"? Why ARE they so intent on digging up ae rape victim's story, to help the victim? I think not. I think they're doing it as a desperate attempt to keep Hillary out of office.

Do they even have the permission of the victim? And if so, what would the victim possibly have to gain by reliving it all again, money?

Otherwise, as I said, we don't have proof yet that Hillary wasn't obliged to take on the client by court appointment and that she's lying. However, we DO have proof that others are trying to use a rape victim's case to win a presidential election.

In which case, as I said yesterday, that actually pushes me one step closer to voting FOR Hillary rather than against her. Gotta do better than that, guys, if you want my vote - I'm not easily manipulated:)

The point is to prove that Hillary lies. - sm

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But that apparently does not matter to a lot of people as evidenced by BO, the Liar-in-Chief, getting re-elected.

But, what difference at this point does it make?

Hey, it makes a lot of difference to me. I don't want someone in high office who is a liar. Period.

Maybe so, but it's also that the GOP will exploit a rape victim's case to win elections;) - Independent Thinker

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1,000 likes. - nana7
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I can just imagine the mud sliging during this campaign and the lies about each side. It really makes me sick when they have to lie to try and win. Both sides are guilty, not just one.

Last election there was so much mud slinging I stopped watching and listening to the news. It just made a mockery of our system and I can see this election will probably be worse.

Clinton Speaks About Defense of Child Rapist - tiredmt

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I'm wondering how concerned Hillary Clinton could be about defending a rapist when she later becomes the Benghazi Butcher...

http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-butcher-of-benghazi-hillary-rodham-clinton-implicated-in-murder/

Accusing a presidential candidate of being implicated in murder? - This is a new low.

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The accusation of murder and that type attack on a candidate is very indicative of the GOP mud slinging. This is a new low, in my opinion, and disgusting. So much for the party of "values."

Brings to mind the phrase: "I didn't leave the GOP; the GOP left me."

Unbelievable.

Accusing a presidential candidate - tiredmt

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It's not an attack on a candidate because she wasn't a candidate at the time when Benghazi happened. It just shows her true character throughout her political lifetime. Yes it's disgusting, disgusting that she let this happen to Americans.
It's a fairly simple concept. - sm
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She is a presidential candidate, and you are accusing her of murder. Pretty basic stuff, really. Regardless of semantics and mincing words about timing, it's a new low and truly disgusting in my opinion.

IMO, the GOP is truly off the rails. It doesn't matter that their own multiple investigations into the matter found no evidence whatsoever of the lies being perpetrated by the right-wing propaganda media machine.

Truly disgusting and disturbing on more levels than one.

I didn't leave the GOP, the GOP circus train is off the rails and has left me far behind.

Have a nice day. :)
It's a fairly simple concept - tiredmt
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I'm not with the GOP or with the Democrats or with the Tea Party, so keep believing your delusions and sticking with your party no matter what. You have a nice day, too! ;)
Yes your post is truly "disturbing and disgusting" on more than 1 leve - DemAlinky's circus train never made
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it to the rails...guess that's why they have the clown cars.
More trash talk as usual. Just read all....sm - oldtimer
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the posts down the entire board. On singling out those that reference the word "DemAlinsky" I found nothing of political value, just one liners and name calling, no civil dialog, no facts, no nothing. No wonder the real GOP has gone down the tubes!
DemAlinsky's do not care about American life - They have no "values"
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to speak of...they just want power and the hell with all who get in their way.

No lower than those sayig 911 was an inside job. - So much for "values". stinkythedog

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What a double standardand indicative of the DemAlinsky mud slinging they so love.
Big fan of extreme conspiracy theories?? nm - oldtimer
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