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Bush terror czar Richard Clarke: Bush, Cheney are war criminals.

Posted: Dec 10, 2014

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Then FDR, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, etc. - must be too. They all used

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"torture."

The government is telling lies about you? Welcome to my world G-man.

ummm, nooooo - sm

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Lincoln. General Orders No. 100:

"Military necessity does not admit of cruelty - that is, the infliction of suffering for the sake of suffering or for revenge, nor of maiming or wounding except in fight, nor of torture to extort confessions."

Washington. Charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775:

"Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause... for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country."

I'll leave the FDR research to you, as I find the assertion tiring.

American Civil War prison camps, prisoners during - the Revolutionary War,

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most of then would have been executed already. You act as if this is a new thing. How do you think we gathered the intelligence to capture bin Laden?

bin Laden - Patriot

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"The Senate Intelligence Committee report released Tuesday has a simple answer to that: Hell, no! According to the Senate report, the critical pieces of information that led to discovering the identity of the bin Laden courier, Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, (Ahmed the Kuwaiti) whose activities eventually pointed the CIA to bin Laden's hiding place in Pakistan, were provided by an al-Qaeda detainee before he was subjected to CIA coercive interrogation"

"The committee has given us.... a one-sided study - marred by errors of fact and

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interpretation - essentially a poorly done and partisan attack on the agency that has done the most to protect America after the 9/11 attacks."

Says ex-CIA agents - LOL - nm

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Every MSM outlet I've seen is treating this as - gospel truth. None of them are

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committing journalism and questioning any of it.

I don’t even need them to tell me the report is bogus, but I’m glad they did.

I think most Americans would like the terrorists tortured, plain and simple.

What Americans Want - Patriot

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"I think most Americans would like the terrorists tortured, plain and simple."

Yeah, swell. At one time, most Americans thought people could be kept as slaves, and inter-racial marriages were evil, and women shouldn't be able to vote.

Speaking as an American, I'm with Lincoln on this. To borrow the quote from another good poster here:

"Military necessity does not admit of cruelty - that is, the infliction of suffering for the sake of suffering or for revenge, nor of maiming or wounding except in fight, nor of torture to extort confessions."

This is why we have a justice system - so that society's basest

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emotional instincts are not allowed to react to accusations. We have rules and expectations as to how prisoners will be treated. If you give up the rules because you think the enemy does not abide by them, you are then no better than your enemy.

An exerpt from Bob Kerry (Democrat) about the CIA - report.

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"I also do not have to wait to know we are fighting a war that is different than any in our country's past. The enemy does not have an easy to identify and analyze military. In the war against global jihadism, human intelligence and interrogation have become more important, and I worry that the partisan nature of this report could make this kind of collection more difficult.

I do not need to read the report to know that the Democratic staff alone wrote it. The Republicans checked out early when they determined that their counterparts started out with the premise that the CIA was guilty and then worked to prove it.

When Congress created the intelligence committees in the 1970's, the purpose was for people's representatives to stand above the fray and render balanced judgments about this most sensitive aspect of national security. This committee departed from that high road and slipped into the same partisan mode that marks most of what happens on Capitol Hill these days."

Checked out - Patriot

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"The Republicans checked out early when they determined that their counterparts started out with the premise that the CIA was guilty and then worked to prove it."

So, you're saying that the Republicans once again refused to do the job they were elected for?

At least they're consistent.

So the party that tried to blame violence on a video - is now provoking violence

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in an effort to maintain political control while the United States goes down the toilet.

If "checking out" is all you gleaned from the story, that is telling.

and by promoting violence, this means there will be - terrorist acts against us as a

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result of this dubious report. How do you fight an ideology that beheads as a form of terror? You don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

Bob Kerry, Democrat, among others, says that's a lie, - it did lead to his capture. no msg

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I don't know - sm

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I can't even gather the intelligence to figure out what you mean.

Stop making excuses people. We are supposed...sm - Rosie

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to be the leader of the free world, setting the example, advocating human rights, against torture as set forth by the Geneva convention. Torture is wrong period.

So is Obama, Hillary, and everyone else in - pssst. Bush is no longer president

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this administration.

President abolished enhanced interrogation techniques - his second day in office. nm

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Who? It's still going on. - nm

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Nope, not since 2009, unless of course a rougue....sm - Rosie

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CIA ignored his first executive order.

Um, yeah it is still going on. - whether or not you want to believe it

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You can believe whatever you want. No one is stopping you from that, but you can't change facts.

The fact is on Jan 22, 2009, President Obama banned EITs. nm - Rosie

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Bush - Patriot

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Sure, he's no longer president. That doesn't mean the torture he approved of goes away. We, as a nation, still have to deal with the aftermath.

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