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Students with President Bush on 9/11

Posted: May 5, 2011

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20110504/us_time/08599206932700

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Have you ever wondered what you would have done - in the President's place?

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I've thought about that. I honestly believe that he did the best he could. I applaud the fact that he kept his voice calm and didn't panic the children.

On the other hand, his job priorities just changed in that instant, and I believe he could have excused himself quickly and calmly. That's all second-guessing, of course, and nobody knows what they would have done in that place.

I could see myself standing up, going over, putting my arm around the teacher to cue her to stop her drill with the children, then say something like he did later, "You children are doing a fantastic job! As you know, I'm President of the United States and sometimes I have to leave earlier than I had planned. I will be thinking of you as I do my work and as you continue on with your work." Then (I think) I would have been out of there.

However, he's a human being and probably needed time. I'm not sure he needed 10 minutes, but was there really anything he could do anyway? Did he have important decisions that he needed to make at that moment that were more important than continuing on for 10 minutes, or did his staff have everything under control? Did the delay cause any problems? Did it keep them from getting him to a secure location as fast as they would have liked? Probably. His aides didn't look too happy with him as they stood there looking at their text messages (at least looking at their phone) and watching the time go by.

I like President Bush better now that he isn't President. I thought he was in over his head, but I like him as a person. He would be a great guy to go to a ballgame with, but the same attitude that made him a successful owner of an athletic team probably helped us get into wars we didn't need to be in, and cost us trillions of dollars.

I just saw an interview about a book written by Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist and author of "The Three Trillion Dollar War," talking about the amount of resources devoted to the "War on Terror" and the opportunities lost as a result"

I think he did the right thing. So do the - Indy

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people who were there with him, obviously, from the article. The information that was being gathered for him was being done while they sat there. What possible difference would it have made if he went over to the teacher and explained to her and left the room to go out in the hallway and wait for the information to be gathered? I think ragging on him for sitting in the chair for 10 minutes is absolutely ridiculous, frankly. That 10 minutes did not make or break anything.

I seriously doubt that Obama would have jumped up and ran out of the room either. At least I hope he would not have. In a crisis, you need a calm and in control leader, and I think that is exactly who he was, at a time when this country really needed one. And he rallied us, just like he rallied those men at Ground Zero when he stood on that pile of rubble and said pretty soon the whole world will hear us. Those men, facing the horrors they were facing that day...needed a strong leader to rally them and he did just that. He held us together as a country and I will forever respect him and be grateful to him for that.

Getting him to a secure place? They wanted him to, but he wanted to address the nation and he did so from that school. You don't remember that? He felt it that the nation needed to hear from him. He was right. He did the RIGHT thing. I really don't know how you (or anyone else) can criticize him for how he handled things.

I did not like all of his policies, but he was the leader we needed on 9-11. He was certainly not in over his head. I am not so sure our present President would have handled it so well, based on his performance to date. The only thing I have agreed with him on so far was giving the go ahead to get bin Laden.

Also, please stop stating Bush got us into a war. He did not. Congress got us into the war as they get us into every war. The President cannot send troops into battle without Congress. Oh well...unless you are President Obama. I forgot, he did send military into Libya on bombing raids without congressional approval. Just one of his assaults on the Constitution.

You are correct that he did address the nation from the school - More thoughts on this

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I really don't want to be harsh or judgmental about his actions in those moments. He did the best he could.

I didn't need a pep rally on a pile of rubbish. I think the President needed that, but I didn't.

Also, I don't think most Presidents would have sat still at a moment when every second counted. Decisions needed to be made about whether more planes were coming in, whether they should, in fact, be shot down, etc. We only know the tiniest part of what the President's responsibilities at that moment were, but the best use of his time was to act swiftly and calmly, but to get going. That's the job of the President, to protect those children.

I think he just froze temporarily. The look on his aides' faces tells me that they needed him. Otherwise they wouldn't have gone in and interrupted the reading class. They expected him to act, just as our air force is trained to act instantly when the country is under attack.

Nevertheless, he did the best he could do. I'll let someone else talk to you about the wars that Bush got us into and how Congress was able to stop him, or not.

I don't know how you could have seen that - Indy

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footage at ground zero and make that statement you made. Pep rally on a pile of rubbish?? Did you see the men he was talking to? They cheered. THEY needed it. You know, the ones who had been pulling bodies out of the rubble. The first responders. THEY needed it. You might try seeing it from their point of view.

You think it would be more important for him to be whisked to Air Force One than to address the nation in a crisis? All that tells me is he was thinking of the American people and not himself.

again...the people who were there with him, the teachers and the principal of the school who are directly responsible for those children...think he did exactly what he should have done. Since they were actually there, I think they have a unique perspective that armchair quarterbacks like you and me don't have.

Have a good one!

But, to each his own.

We can agree pleasantly to disagree about that - because

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the teachers and principal of the school are not in charge of our nation's security. They of course needed to step in at that point and make sure the students understood to the level that was appropriate for their age and didn't panic. The President's responsibilities were more along the lines of, what else is coming and what do I, as President, need to do about it right now this very instant, before more people are killed. For example, that plane that was being hijacked and on the way to hit the Pentagon and the other one on the way to hit the White House. At that point he had no way to know what else was going on, until he talked to his security people and military advisers. That's what I would rather have had him do, but I stipulate that it did catch him by surprise, which is understandable, and I don't fault him for not moving calmly but faster and more effectively. I also admit that it might not have saved in more lives, looking at it with hindsight.

I really don't think moving faster and more effectively - Backwards Typist

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on 911 would have made a difference. No one knew exactly how many planes were hijacked at that point or where they were headed. The air controllers were all scrambling to make sense of the matter and yet, try to give accurate information.

Also, another post stated about the look on his aides faces - I think that was because they were checking for the latest information. After all, this type of terrorist act was never tried before and in all seriousness, I don't think they even knew what to do. I don't think they were upset because the President didn't leave immediately.

That's true. At that moment we knew nothing other than we had been attacked - sm

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Nobody knew what was coming next, if anything, or when to expect it. At least I don't think the top levels knew anything more than the rest of us. One always hopes and wishes that they know more, but maybe they had no more information than we did. That's scary, isn't it? If they indeed had received more intelligence than we had at that moment, he would have had something he could do, decisions he could make. Otherwise, he was just like the rest of us, helpless, and it didn't matter where he was or what he was doing. That's also scary.

I do think I would have had a few urgent questions at that moment - if I had been President

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I might not have known what to do either, but I definitely would have had some questions that I would have been asking my staff. I would have had them too busy to just be standing there holding up a wall. I admit that they probably were busy. We just couldn't see evidence of that in the picture, which just showed them with horrified looks on their faces, one of them staring at a cell phone.

That picture of horror on the aide's face is ingrained in my mind - nm

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nm

another interpretation - flydom

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the aide was well aware of his boss' abilities or lack thereof. Might have been thinking "Holy crap,who is going to deal with this?" My perception of Bush's expression was horror that he had no clue about what a leader would do and he only signed up for the pomp of the presidency, not the real work.

Unfortunately, I think you may be right. - but can I still like him as a person anyway?

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I didn't like him at all as a President. He would make a great friend though, free tickets to games, etc. Getting to the bottom of the matter though, I think he became President because he thought it was something his family does, is supposed to do. His brother would have been a more serious choice, in my opinion, but he will probably never get the chance. I like him too.

I think that's okay to just like him as a person. - I always felt that way about

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Clinton. Probably one cool dude to go hang out with, but as for President, nah, not for me.

We all feel differently about things and how we would handle them. I personally gained the most respect for Bush with the 9-11 attacks and his handling of them. I don't expect everyone else too, and the beauty is we all don't have to agree.

I like that and it is beautiful that we can have differing opinions but still be - Pleasant

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I have a very good feeling about that. Good message!

of course you can - flydom

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After reading about his actions, attitudes, treatment of people and "business career," I find him very unappealing. I would tolerate him as a neighbor, but anything more than that would be a no-go.

Well, having a cup of coffee with him isn't exactly asking him to be godfather to my children - LOL

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I am more at the point where I would smile pleasantly and shake his hand, which is a major improvement from where I was when he was President.

As far as Clinton is concerned, I think the guy demonstrated very poor personal values and standards, but made many very good decisions as President. I liked him as President. If I knew him personally, I probably would like him a lot less. He and Bush both helped send our jobs overseas, so that doesn't go in his favor with me either. I really like Hillary Clinton, but if I shook hands with him, I might congratulate him on many of his accomplishments, then I would go wash up soon after. LOL.

bill clinton - flydom

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I have a soft spot for him after reading about his childhood. One neighbor said his mom had wild parties and everyone was hung over on Sunday but she would always see young Bill walking alone to church with his Bible. That image touched me. I think he wanted to be a good man.

Good point. I think you're probably right. - sm

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I don't think any of us are perfect, are we?! Some of us were put in homes where it was easier for us to learn values. I should remember that everyone has a unique story. We don't know what that person has gone through to get where he is today, or, more importantly, how he may be tomorrow. It's way too easy to throw stones.

Has anyone read "The Three Trillion Dollar War" yet? - I think it just came out

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I've heard a little about it, but I would like to read it. Has anyone read it yet?

rewriting history - flydom

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I am aware of my limitations and would never take on a job I was that ill-equipped to deal with. (hubris) People are routinely warned when the president is at an event that he can be called away at any moment. Obama would not have "jumped up" but would have quickly excused himself. To defend a man's stunned inaction as noble to me is just twisted. finally, to say Bush DIDNT start the war - congress did, and then say BUSH deserves credit for killing Obama but was not RESPONSIBLE for the financial mess he left us with is laughably inconsistent.

You really cannot see psat your bias, can - you? You have no idea

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what Obama would have done, nor do I. As OP said, you are armchair quarterbacking, and if the teacher and principal of the school were actually there and witnessed it, and they feel he did the right thing, he did. He made a brief statement to the nation from that school, so nothing would be accomplished by leaving the school room and waiting in the hall while the area was being readied for a statement.

Obama took a job he was ill-equipped to deal with. Which is obvious from the state the country is in. He was handed a deficit, yes, as most Presidents have been. What most Presidents have NOT done, however, is add to it in 1 year more than Bush did in 8, with 9-11 and two wars. At least get the facts right. Obama is standing on a pile of broken promises and has made more assaults on the Constitution than ANY President in recent memory.

Bush didn't start the war. Congress did. He asked for approval and they gave it to him. Have you even read the constitution? The only President who has not followed that is your man Obama. He sent bombers to Libya without congressional consent...one of his assaults on the Constitution.

TARP is the reason Obama was handed a deficit. Which, by the way, he came back from the campaign trail to vote FOR. So in essence, he signed off on adding to the deficit he would be handed...which he promptly went to work RAISING.

Talk about laughably inconsistent. Want to talk about all the broken promises? C-SPAN coverage of the health care debate. Didn't happen. Most transparent administration in history. Talk about LAUGHABLE. What a whopper. He said he would not have lobbyists in his administration. Would you like a list of the lobbyists in his administration? Said he was going to review all the programs and get rid of the ones that don't work. Has not happened, even in the face of this financial crisis. Proposed a 3 trillion dollar budget with no cuts to existing spending on TOP of a 14 trillion dollar budget.

He is Bush ON STEROIDS.

wrong - flydom

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Nothing would be accomplished by going out into the hall to have access to phone? If only to call Cheney for instructions? Obama was handed more than a deficit - he was handed the crisis of possible world financial collapse. By the way Bush on STEROIDS would not be Obama, it would be Barbara Bush.

No, stepping out into the hall to have access - to a phone was not

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in my opinion necessary. Cheney was already being hustled to the bunker, if you will recall. Would not have been available for a phone call right then. Absolutely nothing would have changed if Bush had jumped up and run out into the hall other than freak the kids out.

The teacher and principal of the school were there, you weren't. If they are okay with it, that's good with me. Nothing he did would have been okay with you. If he had jumped and run out you would be squawking that he scared the kids.

Yes, Obama was handed a crisis, brought on by the wall street meltdown brought on by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd pushing all that bad mortgage paper because, in Barney's words, Fannie and Freddie won't fail and even if they did we would not bail them out (AHEM!!). When all that Fannie bad paper hit wallstreet...KABOOM. The rest is history. So, Democrats started the ball rolling, made TARP necessary, Obama as a Dem senator voted for it, so he has no room to squeal (and neither do you) about what he was handed. He elected to continue fighting the wars he vowed to stop (another promise that did not happen). He elected to continue spending like a drunken sailor with no regard at all for the deficit.

Classless remark about Barbara Bush, by the way.

cant reason with - flydom

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a person who actually believes there was no one he could have been talking to, getting a clearer idea of what happened, checking status of response, etc. I chuckle after reading your histrionic posts about your statement of "my bias." Lastly, your judgment regarding barbara remark matters not.

What is hysterical is that you think you - AREN'T biased. C'mon fly.

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Whether you think he could have used the time better or not does not mean squat. There were no consequences to it. Only someone with total bias would continue to beat this dead horse, when the average people (like you and me) who were present when it was happening commend how he handled the situation.

It does take a real sense of arrogance to assert they who were there don't have a clue and you who were not have all the answers.

Obviously it doesn't matter to you whether or not your remarks are classless. No need to bring home that point.

Have a good one!

non sequitur - flydom

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Nowhere did I state I was unbiased - you assumed that along with your assumption that you were not. . . What the people in the room thought about his actions have absolutely no bearing on the obvious responsibility of a nation's leader to get off his tushie and take charge when the country is attacked.

No, not biased...not a Republican. I just think - Bush made the right

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decision that time. Did not like all his decisions...but I liked how he handed 9-11. I liked how Obama hda guts enough to give the go ahead to get bin Laden. However, I didn't like him leaving a press conference stating he had more important things to do and immediately leaving to go on Oprah and do 3 fund raisers. I keep hoping at some point he will actually try to do something constructive about the financial crisis still looming that he has been ignoring for the first year of his term. Your bias is what keeps you from addressing THAT elephant in the room. Not to mention all the promises broken, lies told...

Tell me...is there ANYTHING that he could do that you would disagree with? Or do you think the Dem gods would strike you down with a lightning bold for even THINKING about such a betrayal?

You know...that kind of mindset will vote a straight Republican ticket again in 2012. For the second time in my life. When a person cannot objectively look at the shape the country is in and determine that the present administration is not addressing the issues...sorry, I just do not get bias to that degree.

But, I don't have to. I just need to do all I can from keeping that kind of bias out of power.

color spectrum - flydom

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You just lept to another conclusion about a person you know nothing about. Is there anything he could do that I would disagree with? Would the democratic gods strike me down? that is black and white thinking. Like you are either for us or against us .. .

Not biased, not a republican - sm

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Can't say I blame you for wanting to keep an arms distance from that label, but every single argument you have offered reeks republican. You are biased. So am I. It is not a crime. It is human.

Could he have stopped the plane that crashed into the Pentagon and saved lives? - He might have if given a few more minutes

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If he had just had a few more minutes to confer and listen to the options available to him, lives might have been saved. We will never know. There are consequences to actions and lack of action. That's the way it works.

Boy, did you snatch that one out of LEFT - field. Geez. nm

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nm

Regardless of where it came from, she has a point. - sm

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We all are left to wonder what could have been had he reacted sooner. I am as left wing as they come and am not shy to admit how inadequate I think W was as a president. However, in this context, the only thing I know to do is to remember how I felt the moment I heard that news. I was stuck in an office transcribing and we had delivery deadlines looming. The manager did not inform us of the attacks until AFTER we had met turnaround time (around 10 AM)! I was so blinded by tears on the half-mile drive to my house I had to pull over twice, each time sitting frozen in the car seat, gripping the steering wheel and listening to the radio. It took me 40 minutes to get home.

Once I saw the images, like anyone and everyone, I knew as Americans, our lives would be changed forever. For the next couple of weeks, I had the feeling I was trapped in a bad dream I could not wake up from. The word surreal comes to mind.

When I see the photos of Bush that morning in the classroom, it is his eyes and expression in his face that haunts me. I do not see a president or commander-in-chief sitting in that chair. I see a human being, fellow American, frozen in time, attempting to take in and process the unthinkable.

I agree with the previous poster. He did the best he could. We all did.

No one was really understanding what was happening because - Backwards Typist

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all this happened within an hour's time. The first plane was seen as an accident. It was after the second plane hit that people started realizing this was no accident.

I was watching The Today Show and saw the first plane hit, then the second one. I remember Katie Couric say "this is no accident" or words to that effect after the second plane. Air traffic controllers were scrambling, news reporters were reporting with sometimes inaccurate information or totally false info and, remember, we were never attacked in this degree before. It was just that crazy.

Even the WH had incorrect info at first, being told it was a twin engine plane that struck the first tower. So IMO,there was no possible way Bush leaving immediately would have helped the situation with all the confusion. I also agree he did the best he could.

What I remember - sm

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I remember casually seeing the first one. Then when the second one hit, I knew immediately that we were at war. Katie Couric, a person that I truly admire, just kept talking and talking and talking. I wanted to yell at her to turn around and look at the monitor to see what was happening. That was not her brightest hour, but again, we weren't expecting this to happen. Nobody other than our very top leaders had been warned. The rest of us had no inkling that it was even a possibility.

Our financial crisis stems from being in wars against people who did not attack us - We will be paying for years for those mistakes

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Lives were lost and our country does not have the power and/or assets we once had, because someone chose to go to war(s) with people for the wrong reasons.

The war did not cause the financial crisis. - Bad mortgage paper

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on Wall Street did. Bush admin rep tried to tell Barney Frank that. You can view the actual footage on You Tube where he warned that if all those floating rate mortgages given to people who had bad credit/no credit and no hope in heck of being able to pay them if the interest rates went up...and all that bad paper hit wallstreet it could be catastrophic..and Barney's reply has been posted ad nauseam. Well guess what happened? Interest rates went up,those people could not pay the mortgages, all went into foreclosure, the bad paper hit wall street and the rest IS history.

Of course, going to You Tube and listening would indicate that you have an interest in the truth of what happened. Won't hold my breath that you will do that and then come back and admit you were wrong.

Did it ever occur to you that - sm

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there could be more than one source of the financial crisis. These relentless attempts to produce partisan-friendly campaign-boosting explanations are narrow and short-sighted at best. The personalized snipes of course are irrevelant to the argument, divisive and truly tiresome.

The mortgage crisis component of the economic collapse aside, are you seriously trying to suggest that a 3-trillion-dollar war has not been destructive to the economy? Really?

The (unnecessary) wars actually cost more than 3 Trillion dollars - sm

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Just think about the opportunities we would have had to use that money in ways that would have accomplished something good, healthcare, jobs, education, etc. The wars cost much more than 3 trillion dollars. They have almost destroyed us as a nation. Hopefully we can come back.

That teacher and the principal are not experts in our nation's security - but we do have experts

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We do have experts in security and they were waiting to confer with the most powerful man in the world, the President of the United States, whose duty it was to be available to them in times of emergency, which this definitely was.

The teachers and principal thought it was the right thing for him to do? They were not in a position to make those kinds of decisions. The security people were.

And what security people have said - that anything would have

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changed if he had gone out into the hall and waited while they were preparing for him to make a statement? Do you think you are going to drop dead on the spot if you say anything nice about President Bush???

Geeezzzz, people.

Hopefully he wouldn't have just gone out in the hall and stood around - sm

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Even ordinary men, not just Presidents, would have done more than just "stand around in the hall" to wait until time to address the country.

He needed to access his advisers, consult with the military, find out more information. President Bush was known for one thing that I find more negative about him than anything else. He is not a curious man. He did not seek information. He wasn't in there looking to see what his options were. He was listening to children read a children's book while planes were bombing the United States of America. Something is wrong with that picture. I don't blame him because he wasn't equipped for the job. He had been a cheer leader in college and is very good at that kind of situation, building team spirit. That's fine for those who need it, at the right time, but this was the time for something more, and he wasn't prepared to deal with it.

He got an MBA from Harvard. Please. - Why was Obama golfing

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when he knew that shortly men he was sending to get bin Laden could be killed shortly? I don't know, but I am not going to presume that I know better than he does what he needed to be doing.

I think you are supremely arrogant to suggest that you know what was happening at that time and that he handled it inappropriately. Wow.

Does one have to be that arrogant to be a Democrat/liberal, or do you become that arrogant after assimilation?

President Bush didn't graduate from Harvard, President Obama did - with more than an MBA actually

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President Bush got an MBA from Yale, I believe.

With all the inaccurate reporting coming from 20 different directions - Backwards Typist

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you really think security personnel were waiting for Bush? No...they were hustling the people from the WH to the bunkers, closing off streets, etc. and whatever else they are trained to do to protect the government.

Would you have waited for the President to issue orders or would you use your training to save lives? Unless you can definitely put yourself in either the President's place or in the Secret Service/security personnel's place, I wouldn't second guess them.

Security has a plan in place, but I would assume the President also had duties for such an occasion - see message

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Particularly since e-mail had been received that warned that this was going to happen. They had to have a plan. It would be hard to believe that the President would not be part of the response plan.

Flydom, you're HALF right. - Historian

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Flydom, Above you wrote that you are "all over conspiracies" and encouraged everyone to verify everything (the latter I agree with).

But after reading more of your posts, you only see "Bush is guilty" "conspiracies," ergo you only have half the picture! If you really did your research then you would learn that BOTH PARTIES WORK FOR THE SAME PEOPLE. They are controlled entities, a la Hegelian dialectic.

Obama is Dick Cheney's cousin and Sarah Palin's cousin! EVERY U.S. Presidential election has been won by the GUY WITH MORE ROYAL BLOOD; that is confirmed by Burke's Peerage (!!).

So you DO NOT get it, not yet.

Historian, could you share your credentials since you are using them? - Interested

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Most of us aren't claiming any expertise, but since you are, would you mind filling us in on your credentials as a historian? Education? Training? That would be interesting to know as we read what you write. Thanks.

LOL. We are asking poster for credentials now? - How funny. Not the

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Historian but really found this one funny. Wonder if the "American" poster could send us something showing that they are a real citizen. We can use whatever name we want. Maybe they are an amateur historian and just like to study history. I would hope they wouldn't be on this site if they actually went and got a bachelors in history.

Did they really make some kind of comments in their post for you to need their credentials?

Historian implies expertise in the study of history and I love history - Just curious - sm

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I was just curious, but it's no big deal. I'm a history lover. I'm not a historian, but I appreciate those who are.

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It's a shame that this story seems to be ignored by MSM and our government. Why do they ignore Africa? This is an outrage. Boko Haram, Nigerian Islamist Group, Kills 59 Students In Their Sleep In Attack On Boarding School In Yobe State Nigerian Islamist group Boko Haram’s gunmen killed 59 students in their sleep in an attack on a boarding school in northeast Nigeria on Tuesday, news reports said. The attack was made on Buni Yadi, a college run by the federal government near Damat ...

May 07, 2010
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html Okay...I understand that May 5th is Mexicans day of independece....IN MEXICO. Why aren't American citizens allowed to wear the American flag in AMERICA because it might offend Mexicans...are you kidding me? I really hate to break this to Mexicans who are here legally and illegally....but this isn't Mexico. How can they stop Americans from wearing the Americ ...

Sep 18, 2012
in her class to sign a pledge to vote for Obama. Above and beyond the scope of her math class teaching responsibilities, and also breaks the law. http://riehlworldview.com/2012/09/florida-professor-sharon-sweet-made-students-sign-vote-for-obama-pledge.htmlhttp://watchdog.org/56610/fl-watchblog-obama-vote-pledge/ ...

Sep 27, 2012
Snack! http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/hungry-kids-grumble-healthy-school-lunches/story?id=17324285#.UGODKkY_i33 ...

Sep 26, 2014
Apparently the school board decided to institute a revisionist form of history books and the KIDS are protesting. Seems the teachers are not too happy with this school board either. "They waved signs declaring, “It’s world history, not white history,” and talked about Cesar Chavez and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Leaders of the walkout urged others to stay out of the streets and not to curse, and sympathetic parents brought poster board, magic markers an ...

Nov 02, 2016
Great - more male (?) snowflakes with pansies stuck up their behinds. The male population of this nation is being turned into a bunch of wimps who couldn't fight their way out of a designer messenger bag. Pardon me if I still prefer manly men (and womanly women), and I don't think the male population is infected with "toxic" masculinity or needs any help from liberal university simps. Social engineering of the most extreme (and frightening) variety. You couldn't make ...

Jul 14, 2015
All but a few Republicans voted no. The Democrats all voted yes. Democrats human---for the most part Republicans inhumane. http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/did_your_us_senator_just_vote_to_allow_lgbt_students_to_be_bullied_here_s_the_list ...

May 05, 2017
But international students pay full price and must certify they have sufficient funds to cover tuition A program to be rolled out at Emory University this fall pledges to pay “100% of demonstrated financial need for undergraduate Undocumented Students (with or without DACA) who are admitted as first-year, first-degree-seeking students,” campus officials state online. More than 200 faculty members recently signed a petition to university President Claire Sterk demanding Emory be declar ...

Aug 27, 2013
Schools across the country are dropping out, not just these. These are just the descriptive letter-writing ones. LOL - No, I'm not providing a link for those. I can only post one. Link ...

May 16, 2015
This is both somewhat religious but also political. I don't care for Hannity but this video shows how Muslims are trying to take over and push Christianity out of this country. They are suing in federal court to force the university to remove the crosses from the school rooms. Why do Christian schools and universities have to bow down to Muslims. Muslim students are enrolled in a Catholic University. Why? To create trouble? I would say yes. As usual, the independent musl ...

May 05, 2017
Hilarious... Check out the guy in the hammer and sickle shirt. ...

Jul 17, 2017
what it is... ...

Aug 15, 2016
In Florida, a group of parents are suing state education officials for coercing their children to repeat third grade because they were opted out of government standardized testing. The Orlando Sentinel reports: "One Orange County plaintiff had a daughter who was on the honor roll, the suit said, but "is being retained in the third grade because of no FSA scores and because her teacher was not informed of the criteria for developing a student portfolio during the school year." State l ...

Apr 11, 2013
Randie Paul's assumption that African American college students know nothing of their history was not well received. I'm not sure if this was the right approach to start covering his tracks regarding a 2010 interview where he said essentially that the Civil Rights Act should not apply to private businesses: PAUL: I like the Civil Rights Act in the sense that it ended discrimination in all public domains, and I’m all in favor of that. INTERVIEWER: But? PAUL: You had to a ...

Jul 25, 2013
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/14098/ ...

Feb 15, 2017
On Monday night, an event put on by the Columbia University chapter of Students Supporting Israel (SSI) was disrupted repeatedly by anti-Israel attendees. The event centered around Israeli Ambassador Danny Danon giving a lecture to a crowd of 300 students. Originally, the crowd was going to have invited pro-Israel students and alumni who wanted to hear Danon speak, but the university would not allow this. According to The Algemeiner, Columbia University forced SSI to slash the number of in ...

Nov 18, 2016
students at a San Antonio high school and their teacher have been reprimanded for the performance of a skit portraying the assassination of President-elect Donald Trump. The San Antonio Express-News (http://bit.ly/2fKtkI1 ) reports the skit, titled "The Assassination of Donald Trump," was performed last week at Marshall High School. One of the boys used a gunfire sound effect from a cellphone; the other boy, playing Trump, fell to the ground. Barry Perez, spokesman for the Northside Indepe ...

Nov 17, 2016
I'm a little late with this because I've had scheduled appts. Sorry.How despicable!!!! Wonder if any of those students had/have family members that were veterans. Nothing is sacred to college students today. They're all out of control and need a good a**-whooping._____________________________________________Several students at Brown University reportedly tore up and threw away American flags that were set up as part of a Veterans Day ceremony on campus. The flags lined the sidewa ...

Apr 28, 2011
At the left is the video: TUCSON -- Rowdy students take over a big Tucson school board meeting in protest. It's a pretty wild scene -- and it's all over a Mexican-American studies class, a class that teaches history from a Mexican-American perspective. Here's what's going on. The governing board of the Tucson Unified School District was supposed to consider a plan that would make the class an elective, rather than a required class, like it is now. A state law passed in ...

Feb 23, 2017
'social justice' activism. I hope the dimwits are happy. ...