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Bachmann just announced her candidacy


Posted: Jun 13, 2011

for President, according to the New York Times.

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God called out to her to repeal health care - and defund the EPA.

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At least she will breathe some life into a stagnated primary candidate pool. More power to her. Just imagine. The babbling banshee has been added to the roster. Something to look forward to. Yes indeed.

Actually, she was impressive at the debate. Any of the - candidates would be better than Obama.

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Really could not do any worse.

Bachmann - mnmt

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Ugh--I'm from Minnesota and trust me, she would be WAY worse.
I am from the USA, and from experiencing Obama - for too long, ANYONE would be an improvement.nm
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Careful what you wish for. Don't forget Murphy's Law. - Things can and do get worse
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with Bachmann in the race, just say yes it can.
I sure would never vote for Obama again. Huge mistake - What is better under Obama? Nothing.nm
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Way, way more than could be listed in your - drive-by format, nm.
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Not to worry. I'll be up to answering your question after morning coffee.
Really? Then why dont you list the improvements? - Simple -you CANT ! nm
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Patience. Tomorrow morning after coffee. - It's been a long day
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and with melatonin onboard, I could not possibly do that answer justice.
Which basically means you have no answer. LOL.nm - :-)
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Here is an exhaustive 13-page study on - sm
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how Obama administration policies stopped the hemorrhaging economic free-fall and brought the Great Repression to an end...a good starting point for those interested in what some of the running-on-past-record portion of his re-election campaign will look like. GOP candidates also have records of their own, chock-full of factual information that will be scrutinized during their campaigns.

For example, during Romney's tenure as governor, his state ranked 49th in jobs growth. This might explain why he is unwilling to move beyond platitudes to specifics on how he would fix that problem. His record tells us he simply does not know how. Even though the pace of jobs recovery is frustrating, fact is that the 2 million of them were added in the past 5 months. While wading through all its hard data, try to contrast the report's contents with the contents of the last night's GOP Obama bashing/we-got-no-plan of our own debate and the participants' own records. That is what voters will be doing once the GOP selects its contender.

As long as I am responding to a drive-by format from someone who is never willing to back up a single claim they make, I see no reason to spend more time on this. Should you decide to change that tactic and actually present some defenses of these candidates or show us why the GOP is a better choice by using specific examples of how they can do a better job (as opposed to vapid O slams) I will be waiting in the wings and would welcome a little one-on-one.

http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/documents/End-of-Great-Recession.pdf
Again, you have no answer. We are close to a double- - dip recession. Obama is a failure on every level.n
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You must be a fan of - Herman I-hate-to-read Cain.
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Bet you didn't even bother opening the link. Just as well. There is a lot of scary truth in there about how Obama policies averted economic disasters and put out fires left behind by W. It was also even-handed when discussing the fragility of the economy. The source is nonpartisan and nationally recognized as such.

This fear of facts seems to be fairly universal within the GOP ranks, especially the closer one gets to the fringe. You asked a question and I posted a link with the answers. I can't help it if they are not the ones you wanted or are able to deal with. Your adversion to a one-on-one even-handed exchange is predictable. Anything beyond drive-bys is beyond you.

study - anon
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Fortune.com Touts Liberal-Authored Paper as Evidence of Stimulus Success Being a liberal economis means never having to say you were wrong.



  • By Kyle Gillis

  • Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:01 AM EDT





The media pompoms are out again.


 


In his July 28 “Street Sweep” blog, Fortune.com reporter Colin Barr highlighted a paper by Moody’s Analytics claiming government stimulus funds “averted what could have been called Great Depression 2.0.” The paper was authored by notorious spending-advocate Mark Zandi and Keynesian sympathizer Alan Blinder of Princeton University, and Barr parroted their theories:


 


What makes the current 9.5 percent unemployment rate look good?


 


How about one that reaches 16.5 percent? A paper by Moody's economist Mark Zandi and Princeton University scholar Alan Blinder contends we would have reached that threshold had the government not poured trillions of dollars into the economy after the financial meltdown of 2008.”


 


Barr heralded the paper as a much needed “endorsement” for another stimulus package given the country’s current financial situation:


 


“With Washington again chewing over the need to stimulate the economy as Europe struggles with its debt problems and government spending here loses steam, the economists throw in a timely endorsement of the 2009 fiscal stimulus program.”


 


Not until the second to last paragraph did Barr mention Zandi’s 2008 prediction that unemployment would hit 10 percent without a stimulus package. Barr noted:


 


“Obama, meanwhile, has been criticized in some quarters for having predicted unemployment would top out at 8%.”


 


Despite Zandi and Obama, unemployment did reach 10 percent even with the stimulus package that would supposedly keep it under eight percent. Furthermore, the stimulus package increased the national debt and created a negative business environment.


 


Given the state of the economy, one would think the media would wise up to the stimulus’s flaws, but the media continue being Obama’s biggest stimulus cheerleaders.

Moodys analytics provides capital markets and - risk mgmt professionals with
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credit analysis, economic research, financial risk management software, and advisory services. The award-winning global organization with offices in New York City, San Francisco, London, Paris, Brazil, Canada, Japan, Hong Kong, Australia, and China, has approximately USD 600 million in annual revenue.

Any article with such words as "touts" and "liberal-authored" in its title followed by a sarcastic liberal slam announces its bias before it even gets started. The Business and Media Institute (Advancing the Culture of Free Enterprise in America) sounds legitimate enough, but what's with the "Help Us Expose George Soros" block plea next to the article? Well lo and behold! If it isn't mrc.org emblazoned in the address bar, whose stated mission is to show there is a "strident liberal bias" in the national news media. This is the same MRC that was busted for their use of selective evidence (i.e. video editing ala Fox, Breitbart and O'Keefe) and other coverage disparities when reporting on the death squads in right-backed El Salvador vs left-backed Nicaragua. One of its defunct newletters used to spy on actors and track their personal conversations in an effort to get them blacklisted during the McCarthy era.

Next time you want to attack a highly successful globally recognized award-winning economic research organization and accuse it of bias, might want to use a source that does not embody fringe muckraking watchdog mentality.

Unless you are unemployed, losing your home, facing layoff, - are retired or near to it,

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on Medicare or Medicaid, depend on Social Security, can't afford your medicines, groceries, or gas, need medical treatment, have kids to educate....
Tons are losing their homes, unemployed, and - miserable with our current president.
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Obamas policies are disastrous
I'll take the frying pan over the fire any day. - She has about a snowball's chance in
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you know where. Get real.
I dont look at who has a "chance", but instead who - is better for the country. Any of the
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GOP candidates have more common sense in their pinky finger than Obama in his entire pea brain. Seriously, every problem has only gotten bigger with Obama in charge. The country is simply in the toilet. Its depressing. You dont like Bachmann because she believes in God? I am not religious. I look at the issues.
That would explain the underwhelming enthusiasm - over this debate
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we witnessed all day on this forum. Nobody even bothered to mention it until she announced. Here's the deal. If you are looking for change, there are a few essentials the GOP seems to lack: A viable candidate first and foremost. A platform that you can actually convince voters to support runs a close second. So far instant replay of Ws job-killing, economy crushing agendas for as far as the eye can see is what we are getting from them. Good luck with that. It has loser written all over it. You could not win an Obama hate campaign in 2008. 2012 will be no different.
Right now, the "loser" is our country with O. Unfortunately, - some put party over country -not me. nm
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Why? Because she managed not to embarrass herself? - Race to the bottom.

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We are better than that.
In case you did not notice, the country is at - "the bottom" under current administratio
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And in case you didn't notice, the thread is about - the babbling banshee.
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The fact that anyone could be excited over Bachmann just goes to show how out of touch one becomes when living on the fringes. I agree with you. This is good news, for democrats and late-night show comedians. Job security.
But you ARE excited about Obama? Are you? - If so, why? We are in the toilet !.nm
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What excites me is the - trap she is setting for herself
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and the stage she is setting up for the Tea Party's true colors to be exposed. For however long her sprint lasts, her candidacy is definitely useful in terms of placing their overblown sense of self importance into perspective.
Oh, yea sure.. and the TEA party is racist even though - they support Herman Cain, a black man.
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So, what trap for Bachmann, huh? Your dream? Wow, your true colors are the ones exposed here, clearly.
They managed to pick a black man with decidedly - deep rooted bigotry and prejudice
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against Moslems. No surprise there, but not terribly impressive when claiming the tpots are not racists. Besides, you are the one trying to play that card. Is that what you thought I meant by "colors?" That knee-jerk leap would be laughable if it weren't so telling. It's another one of them derned metaphors.

The Bachmann trap? That's gonna have to be a wait and see kinda thing. Wouldn't want to spoil the fun.
assumption - icedT
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I'm not the OP, but you really should share the proof that I'm a racist, since I am Tea Party. This should be good, since you have no idea of my experiences with racism, bigotry and prejudice.
It's not always about you. - sm
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To say the Tea Party choice of a black man who is prejudiced and bigoted does not support the premise that the party is not racist is a reasonable assmption. To presume that the statement was directed at you personally is not. This is not the first time you have tried putting a poster on the defensive when you are not able effectively defend the issue at hand.

Herman Cain is a bigot. His own statements have shown this to be the case on more than one occasion. The Tea Party is vetting him as a presidential candidate. That is the reality. Deal with it and stop trying to play race cards that aren't there.
defending - icedT
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It's not about me effectively defending the issue at hand. I was replying to the statement "not terribly impressive when claiming the tpots are not racists" to the above poster. I have never posted anything regarding Herman Cain to date because I haven't formed an opinion on him as of yet. He's still pretty new to me and I have a lot more research before I would defend or support him.  I don't support a candidate just because he/she aligns with the Tea Party. That's what bothers many political people - the Tea Party people do not live and die by the hard party line (i.e. Karl Rove).  I know you probably won't believe me, but I don't vote a straight ticket and have voted for Democrats many times in the last few years, as well as Republicans.


Stating the Tea Party is racist is inflammatory and deserves defending. The fact is, every single political group has people who are less than desirable. If you don't believe it, read the history of both the Democrat and Republican Party.

And this is not the first time that the Tea Party has been called racist (along with disgusting derogatory terms) on this board.  I will continue to put posters on the defensive as long as they post inflammatory statements about the Tea Party being racist.  It's an unfair smear of a group of people who believe that Obama is leading the country in the wrong direction with this unprecedented, expansive, overreaching federal government and thus, opposing the liberal agenda. After all, it was Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi who were, not that long ago, saying it's patriotic to dissent  (as long as they are following their party line).


The derogatory terms continually used to describe Tea Party Patriots are all the proof needed to reveal how low in the gutter some are willing to crawl. It would be nice if we could have discussions without throwing names for the Tea Party as well as liberals, like libtards, etc.


How about just some respect for each other? Is that even a possibility here on this board?

So you think vetting a prejudiced bigot - IS an effective way to
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show the Tea Party is not racist? I would suggest you become more familiar with Cain's opinions and viewpoints against Moslems. By any stretch of the imagination, there is no way they are not bigoted and prejudiced, despite his weak attempt to invoke the "loyalty oath" angle. He has made these outrageous statements on multiple occasions. The Tea Party put him out there to represent them, or at least so he would have us believe.

The bolded statement in this post, to which I have already responded in the last post, is making a simple observation of fact. If the Tea Party wants to combat the racist image they have been saddled with, maybe they should refrain from choosing a black bigot who claims to speak on their behalf. If you find calling a spade a spade inflammatory, I am sorry, but fact is fact. If you are truly upset about this issue, try voicing your concerns in a more apprpriate direction....at Tea Party officials whose job it is to do their own damage control when a candidate dons the Tea Party colonial blue coat in front of a national audience. In the meantime, I intend to call it what it is.
my take - icedT
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I think you would get a better discussion/debate if you lightened up on the petty and mean-spirited name-calling.

Your negative repetitions regarding Obama are not effective - too boring

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http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/studies/report-12957.html

what is it - anon

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With you and making fun of God?

Babbling banshee? Too funny!
Unlike Obama, who can't seem to put together a complete sentence without duhhh, uhhh, duhhh, uhhh.

Why not ask MB? She's the one who said He called her to run. - Divine endorsement.

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God called MB ro run for Congress in 2006. God told her to introduce the amendment against same-sex marriage in MN. She thinks God will curse America if we do not support Israel. God was in charge of putting her campaign team together. God even told Herman Cain to challenge her in the primary.

So if these are her words, how does that translate into MY making fun of God?
so what if He did? - sm
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What's the point if she believes it or not? Why would you care if their love of God was a part of their lives and what does that have to do with their candidacy? The "divine endorsement" comment mocks her religion. Would the words be the same if it were Muhammad (or another religion) and not God and it were spoken by a conservative? I think not. It would portrayed as intolerant and phobic.

As an independent, my overall impression of Bachman - is she is crazy, extreme, looney

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To the Republicans who want to have a chance to beat Obama, stick with Romney.

Name call.. but why? Can you explain yourself? - Extreme on what? nm

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