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As predicted, Obamacare failing but at a stunning pace.

Posted: Apr 16, 2016

Obamacare has missed virtually every promise made for it (not a few of which were known to be unfounded at best or outright lies at worst when they were made). I doubt this comes as any real surprise to even its most ardent supporters because the math never made the slightest sense whatsoever. But even the most outspoken critics of this half-baked cockamamie scheme could hardly have predicted the precipitous speed at which the wheels would come off. Or maybe they were always intended to come off? Obamacare has not succeeding in either containing costs or improving coverage - which were the two principal "selling points" by which Pelosi and other neo-socialists defended their support for it. In the 5 years since passage, rate increases have matched the increases in the 5 years before its passage. More people have been knocked off existing coverage than have been covered by it, and the coverage itself is much worse with far less choice. ...and it's a fiscal disaster. Translation: Obamacare is unsustainable. More and larger premium increases are coming. It boggles the imagination to think that anyone with enough common sense to open their mouth when they wish to eat ever thought this was a good idea. There were SO many better ways to fix the problems in the healthcare system that one suspects - and now realizes - that fixing the problems was never what Obamacare was about in the first place. The long and short of it is, Obamacare was deliberately crafted as a step toward single-payer healthcare. Nothing more and nothing less. This had to be done incrementally because the vast majority of Americans are opposed to the idea, and the neo-socialists knew it could never be accomplished in one move. Be patient, they tell themselves. Creeping socialism is better than no socialism at all. In due course the people will come to depend on the government for everything, and we'll be the ones to dish it out - or rather, ration it out. The plan isn't even subtle. First, using Obamacare as the instrument, you impose burdens on the insurers that they cannot meet without substantial increases in premiums and corresponding cuts in what they cover. Groaning under the premiums, co-pays and the huge deductibles, and dissatisfied with the level of service, the restricted choice and the resulting delays, voters will sooner or later demand that the government take over the healthcare system. The general public will never even realize that it was the government itself that pushed the private insurance industry off the cliff! So, there'll be no cognitive dissonance when it comes to demanding that the same government "solve" the very problem that it created. They will never ask: "Who do we need rescuing from - the insurers or the government?" You think not? What about public demand for the government to fix the mortgage derivative crisis - which the neo-socialists were also instrumental in creating (Franks, Schumer et al) - because "everyone deserves to own a home"?? Government giveth, and government taketh away, right? The question in the back of your mind now must be this: Is Obamacare, then, really the crashing failure it appears to be, or is it actually a stunning success IN TERMS OF ITS REAL OBJECTIVE? The answer is hardly shrouded in mystery. Just look at its supporters, and then find out what most of them have said about a single-payer healthcare system. We must learn to discern if we're not going to play the role of the hypnotist's stooge. Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it - especially when it comes to government programs rooted in the basic tenets of socialism. The list of failures is staggering, with precious little to show on the other side of the ledger. Throughout history, even the best governments have only done a few things well, and when the reach of government moves beyond its core competencies, it has set itself on the path to oblivion. This is not a statement of "political philosophy" which might be right or might be wrong. It is simply a statement of demonstrable fact with the weight of evidence behind it. Remember that, the next time a politician with shiny objects and flashy promises comes your way. ;

Obama is a modern day Nero who burned Rome to the ground - to "fundamentally change" it and

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then blamed it on the Christians, or in this case the Republicans.

The most ironic consequence of the Obama engineered collapse of our health care system will be the parallel implosion of the European style "model" of the socialist medical systems, and also the free market American health care system, with it's ability to provide immediate access to sophisticated and effective medical care without long waiting lists or rationed health care, has served as a safety valve and safe haven for the where desperate Canada, Great Britain and the EU patients denied care by the socialist systems.

Also, a shortage of healthy young people signing up for Obamacare in the marketplaces is driving the cost of subsidizing others (like the people here who sing it's praises, but haven't had their insurance rates quadruple to the point of being unaffordable).

Did you write this? - Anonymous

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Okay, what are the SO many better ways to fix the health care system, you never said.

I'll give you two, then you can do your own research. - sm

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Check out what it would have cost for the government to simply go into the marketplace and purchase insurance policies for those who weren't covered as opposed to what it costs to cover them now.

Do you think the government could have negotiated excellent rates for 13 or 14 million policies? Do you know anything about the government procurement processes when it buys millions of other things in the private marketplace? It's a lot less expensive than the cost of running a massive government program, I can assure you. This is why the government doesn't manufacture its own fighter jets, ships or missiles.

As for preexisting conditions, how much would it have cost the government to simply pass legislation prohibiting insurers from refusing to cover them? The cost of the paper it takes to print the bill?

Now, ask yourself why such obvious solutions were never pursued. In what way was creating a massive social program preferable? (HINT: What would the neo-socialists NOT have gained that they get with Obamacare?)

The answer is simple: None of the obvious, simple and much less expensive solutions would have moved the country one step closer to government-run healthcare, and you must understand that this is a driving ambition for the neo-socialists, in furtherance of which they are perfectly willing to impose discomfort on the citizenry if it will "help them see the light" and ramp up the demand for it.

Disagree. Failure to include a public option was one of....sm - VTMT

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biggest mistakes of the ACA. The competition would have reined in the insurance companies. Blame the republicans and the spineless DINOs for that! Because of this, we are ripe for Medicare for all (system already in place), no huge deductibles, and every family in America will be covered, as well as saving thousands a year. I am ready for my taste especially to be spent on my fellow Americans and not for tax breaks for corporations and the wealthy.

Oh, dear. You know absolutely nothing about Obamacare. - Republicans had nothing to do with it.

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When you do learn something, come back. HINT: Start with the legislative process by which this boondoggle came into existence in the first place.

Oh dear! You are sadly misinformed. Look up why the....sm - VTMT

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public option was removed from the bill. I'll give you some time.

I don't need any time. Let me quote a liberal paper on this - the Washington Post...

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"A handful of Democrats, led by Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, made clear that if there was a public option, they would filibuster the final bill. And so it died."

There ya go, Sparky. There were no Republicans on any side of the public option because they were against the ENTIRE bill in the first place.

Option schmoption.

Pay for service. Get the govt out of healthcare, like - college, and watch the price drop.

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Also, go back to what insurance was in the first place. It was a benefit offered after WWII to attract workers and it was catastrophic or major medical only. It was not intended to pay for regular medical visits, but when it changed the price skyrocketed.

Once the govt "pays" then the prices always rise, since they will pay no matter what the cost. It is, after all, other people's money.

Student debt, climate change, zika virus, ISIS will all go away - 20 million people

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Getting rid of Obamacare will solve all of our problems. All we need to do is take away health insurance from the ill and disabled. The rich need to get richer to solve these problems.

You have it backwards. Medicare for all will.... - Sm

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Will bring prices down by eliminating health insurance companies and their blood sucking CEOs. Next up, drug companies.

The ultimate goal of Obamacare is to get rid of insurance - companies and make the govt

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in charge of what services we can and can't have. Less people are enrolling in medical school too, as they will essentially be govt employees.

I am on Medicare and have never been denied a service - sm

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nor had to wait for care.

Oh, and my deductible is $157 a year! - nm

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I am on Medicare with a supplemental drug policy. sm - VTMT

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I have RA and am covered for almost all of my $4000 a month cost for my Humira. Never have I been refused care or my care limited because I am on Medicare. I pay about $250 a month for my premiums. Great coverage. The best I have ever had!

Humbug. 6 out of 10 doctors in my area don't even accept - Medicare patients.

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One of the specialists I need, the closest one is 35 miles away whereas I previously drove about 1 mile. Another one is closer because he visits a clinic about 10 miles away - once a month.

I say again, humbug. If you like Medicare, it's purely a matter of luck, where you happen to reside and what health conditions you happen to have - and not in any way because it's a good system or an efficient system.

You are complaining because you have to drive 35 miles to see a specialist? sm - VTMT

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Some people drive much further than that! I have local family physicians but prefer to drive a little further to a major medical center for a specialist. I have senior friends all over the country and do not know a single one who is not satisfied with their Medicare coverage or has ever been refused service because they have Medicare coverage. Of course, the all have supplemental coverage to cover whatever Medicare does not. On the other hand, Medicaid is a different story.

Do you EVER stop and think before you open your trap?? - 35 miles of mountainous roads

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...often with deep snow that hasn't been cleared.

What's the matter with you anyway?

...or, rather, make that 70 miles round trip that can take - 2 hours each way.

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Jeez, Louise. Did you miss the line when empathy was handed out??

I guess you failed to notice that I live in the a green MOUNTAINS of - VERMONT! nm

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Seems you are the one with the random - medical condition in a strange locale

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Of course the whole country's medical system should cater to people who live in the mountains and might have to drive a bit further out of their way for service. Now that's a trap.

Not true for me or many others. Try this: - Google "Medicare horror stories".

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Get it?

On you pay stub along with Medicare tax, Obamacare - tax should be listed.

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What Obamacare tax? Because you didn't buy insurance? - nm

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We pay 50% in taxes by the time you add fed, state, local, county - property, sewage tax, etc.

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Because college is so cheap...that - Example makes no sense

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So many of our politicians flatly don't know what they are talking - about and don't care as long as

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they can promote their ideology and pander to equally uninformed, anti-capitalism groups and the general masses.

"Obamacare" - vj

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I don't believe any of us are experts in this regard, or we'd have comprehensive solutions. Still, the sad truth is that we do a poor job of providing affordable health care to children and the massive influx of seniors reaching (supposed) retirement age, though we have the means to do it. Everyone wants to rewrite history, but this topic has been on the table for well over a decade (and should have been even sooner). Pres. Obama was obstructed (ADMITTEDLY) by Congress as soon as he was sworn in. He was vilified for and blocked from doing much, so did what he could to get it going. Congressional support across the board more than a dozen years ago would have made the transition better and smoother but it's always easier to heap blame on one person when you either have no solutions or they can't work. MA and VT have for years been working on ways to help citizens get affordable care. People joked about "liberals" and now "progressives" but, even if not perfect, VT and MA have more options than most states.

IMO: Unfortunately, the only way to get many states to comply is to force them. BTW, Democratic Socialism is more like the concept of sharing that many of us were taught in pre-school. It is not saying a person should go broke giving away to others, just level the playing field somewhat. People who use a word like socialism as a scare tactic need to realize that if they get Medicare that is a form of socialism, as when they pay taxes to keep roads kept up if they don't drive - they still benefit from the roads and share the expenses...that's socialism in a broad sense. Any of us "regular folks" can get cancer or have a spouse or child become severely and/or chronically ill. We should ALL get coverage and not stand by while billionaires with private physicians following them around shout that they understand our feelings. However, that does not meaning running to the doctor/medication on demand. We have a shortage of practitioners almost everywhere and unfortunately, people often have to wait here just as they do in countries with single health plans. That's a hard concept for those Americans who view on demand as their right. Is the Affordable Care Act in need of vast improvement? Yes. But better to find ways to work for a better and more just program than condemning all attempts and tossing out the baby with the bath water. I don't claim to be an expert or have all the answers, but am just asking people to be open-minded and not presume people who yell louder or throw out words intended to scare and divide us know more. It's only their opinion, as much as this is mine.

In your opinion, the only way to get states to comply is to - "force them" WOW, so much

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for states rights. That alone is why Obamacare is unconstitutional.

That's how liberal fascism works, by force. You are - so blinded by your hatred for the rich

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that you fail to see how it affects the rest of us.

Sorry, I forget, what is it the Republicans came up with as an answer - to this dilema. NM

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